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I tell you a secret: It's not the reproduction bit that makes sex fun. And actually the best time is when you can stop worrying about that.
Agreed. Sex-purely-for-reproduction is... a chore!

Don't reckon all the older rich guys (who already probably have adult kids) are all too keen on their hot girlfriends reproducing and "spoiling" the svelte lines of their clothing...
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I sometimes think we have Andy Stitzer here on the forum
Does he have a thing for household gadgets?
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Does he have a thing for household gadgets?
Character from a movie.
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Swiss don't do dating.

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Swiss don't do dating.

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What then.

Risk assessment?
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Works for lots or men. Very attractive men. Hugh Jackman comes to mind. Any why wouldn't he...
There are always exceptions to the rule.
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What then.

Risk assessment?
Not dating in the American sense of the term.

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Not dating in the American sense of the term.

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I have it on good authority that you are incorrect.
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There are always exceptions to the rule.
There's a rule? Social construct, maybe.


Tom, Americans date in a specific way? Fancy.
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I understand now, what you mean by "ideally". But let's say that your candidate is reproduction ready but horribly boring or zero chemistry..I think this reproduction thing is actually secondary priority. Heck, we live in an era where some people only date a virtual partner, without ever leaving their room. Then all these biology theories go out the window. At least there are still folks who go on real dates, that's already something.

The reduction of brain function is interesting. I have heard about it. You forgot to mention andropause.
You can apply your own logic to whatever parts of it you want, I am just laying out the objective facts regarding the base differences that result in the choices we make. There are always exceptions and other arguments that can be applied.

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I tell you a secret: It's not the reproduction bit that makes sex fun. And actually the best time is when you can stop worrying about that.
While that may indeed be true for women of that age, it doesn't change the reasons why men overwhelmingly prefer younger women.

Evolution designed us in specific ways and many of the (often poor and/or irrational) choices we make reflect that. Strip our culture and intellect away and it all comes down to the instinctual drive to mate with the most suitable people we can find. And yes, men do of course often do think with their ****'s, just like they are programmed to.

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You can apply your own logic to whatever parts of it you want, I am just laying out the objective facts regarding the base differences that result in the choices we make. There are always exceptions and other arguments that can be applied.



While that may indeed be true for women of that age, it doesn't change the reasons why men overwhelmingly prefer younger women.

Evolution designed us in specific ways and many of the choices we make reflect that. Strip our culture and intellect away and it all comes down to the instinctual drive to mate with the most suitable people we can find. And yes, men do of course often do think with their ****'s, just like they are programmed to.
Just as women are "predisposed" to taller, stronger, more athletic. etc. Better hunter- gatherers. Interestingly, age isn't a factor. Physicality is.

"Suitable".... very romantic... that'll get all the wimmin a runnin'
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You can apply your own logic to whatever parts of it you want, I am just laying out the objective facts regarding the base differences that result in the choices we make. There are always exceptions and other arguments that can be applied.



While that may indeed be true for women of that age, it doesn't change the reasons why men overwhelmingly prefer younger women.

Evolution designed us in specific ways and many of the (often poor and/or irrational) choices we make reflect that. Strip our culture and intellect away and it all comes down to the instinctual drive to mate with the most suitable people we can find. And yes, men do of course often do think with their ****'s, just like they are programmed to.
Do you agree with OP? I think there is always some truth in stereotypes, otherwise they wouldn't exist. Even if we don't want them to exist.

Do men overwhealmingly also prefer shorter women? Blonde?

I don't have to ask if men prefer women with lower salary, the system already helps them with that.
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It's not a social construct, it's an evolutionary trait.
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It's not a social construct, it's an evolutionary trait.
Searching for the best mate: women with bigger hips for childbirth, men with height and strength for throwing spears is evolutionary. As is babies looking like their fathers so they aren't killed.


Older men wanting / expecting younger (virginal) wives is societal. A patriarchal determination. Younger inexperienced women were deemed easier to control. They were, of course, property for years and years. Women were kept ignorant about their own bodies for years for similar reasons.
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Searching for the best mate: women with bigger hips for childbirth, men with height and strength for throwing spears is evolutionary. As is babies looking like their fathers so they aren't killed.


Older men wanting / expecting younger (virginal) wives is societal. A patriarchal determination. Younger inexperienced women were deemed easier to control. They were, of course, property for years and years. Women were kept ignorant about their own bodies for years for similar reasons.
If it's evolutionary for a male to search for the best mate for reproducing then wouldn't they also search for a female who was in her reproductive prime?
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I think men want younger partners because delivery is most probably safer and better when the lady is younger, same goes for the placenta quality, etc. They tend to forget that fertility is now also endangered by dramatically decreasing sperm count/quality. So, women are probably adjusting as well. Evolution.
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If it's evolutionary for a male to search for their best mate for reproducing then wouldn't they also search for a female who was in her reproductive prime?
Women can reproduce very well until their early 40s, possible until early 50s,

Women can reproduce, on average, from 12.

Reproductive "prime" was once deemed to be around 15 years of age. But then most folk weren't expected to live past 30. Now it's considered to be late 20s/early 30s.
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If it's evolutionary for a male to search for the best mate for reproducing then wouldn't they also search for a female who was in her reproductive prime?
I hate to break this to our readership..but age aside and anatomy, people are drawn to eachother by smell.
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women can reproduce very well until their early 40s, possible until early 50s,

women can reproduce, on average, from 12.

Reproductive "prime" was once deemed to be around 15 years of age. But then most folk weren't expected to live past 30. Now it's considered to be late 20s/early 30s.
20-30 for reproductive prime. Young
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20-30. Young
Fertility doesn't drop dramatically for women until around 35-38. And then is perfectly possible later.

And this seems accurate judging by the average age of the mums of my daughter's classmates. Couple of outliers, as usual.

Not many 20 year olds want kids. Too busy having a life and figuring out what they want to do with it.
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