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Living in Valais

is there someone on the forum who lives in Valais and would like to write how it is to live there?

I will be working in Valais in few months and now am looking for apartments and I am not sure, should I choose Thun and travel with train to work or move to Valais and be close to work to travel with car / bicycle / train to work.

Everybody is "preparing" me for Valais people so would like to hear thoughts from forum people.

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Re: Living in Valis

Do you mean the Canton of Valais/Wallis (there doesn't seem to be any town of the name you use)?

If so I can't see the relevance of Thun, it's not really close to any part of Valais, miles/hours away in fact.

Edit: Ah, I see you edited your post. Now perhaps mention whereabouts you're thinking of. It's a big Canton.
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Re: Living in Valis

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Now perhaps mention whereabouts you're thinking of. It's a big Canton.
yep, you are right.
I mean Brig area.

Thun is close to this area. it takes 40 minutes from Thun to the first station in Valais (Visp)
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I don't see why Thun is coming into the equation then. Are you somehow thinking that Brig itself is too foreign, too small, or what?

It's a reasonable sized town, from what I recall based on a couple of visits en route to Zermatt and environs. Didn't seem to be anything odd about it.

Whether the folks in German speaking parts of Valais are in any way 'special' I couldn't say, but in the French-speaking west of the canton where I live they're just ordinary people, generally friendly from what I've experienced, much more down-to-earth then the Vaudoise, for example, or at least they seem to feel that way, but it's perhaps just a town vs. country folk attitude, with Lausanne being perceived as a big city inhabited by uncivilised boors.
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Re: Living in Valis

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Are you somehow thinking that Brig itself is too foreign, too small, or what?

It's a reasonable sized town, from what I recall based on a couple of visits en route to Zermatt and environs. Didn't seem to be anything odd about it.
it's more about having good connections with the rest of Switzerland and surrounding areas only with the train.
or am I wrong?
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Re: Living in Valais

I really can't see why you would want to live in Thun and work in Brig. It really doesn't make a lot of sense. Both are small towns, in the German speaking area of Switzerland, though the Valais version of Swiss-German is a bit special.
You'll find Brig in general being cheaper, rents will be lower, and both taxes and health insurance are cheaper in the Valais than in Bern.
Don't get wrong, Thun is a beautiful town and if I was working there I wouldn't hesitate about living there, but if you're working in Brig, I'd live there, or possibly lower down in the Rhone valley.
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As said, the Valais is a large Canton and quite varied too. Upper Wallis being still very traditional, very Catholic and speak a Swiss German dialect most other Swiss German dialect speakers can't understand, lol. The Lower part is French speaking, more open- but yes, they still have their Valais qualities- which you can take to, or not, and vice-versa. So which part are you thinking about? Every Valley on either side of the Rhône Valley has its own characteristics. Of course, the bottom of the Valley with the larger towns of Sion, Sierre (on the linguistic border), Martigny, etc- are quite different. What do do you want to know exactly.

The Valais has huge numbers of immigrants, mainly Portuguese- and in some villages, older locals can be a bit reticent and feel a bit 'threatened' by it all- shops, Cafés, restaurants are now Portuguese owned or run- and they are employed in huge numbers in the tourism industry, as well as large numbers of Eastern Europeans. Mostly, no problem- but the old guard can be a bit 'spiky' about it.

Brig is on the main trainline to Italy and Milan, and the French speaking part of Switzerland, Romandie- and Geneva airport. From Lausanne you can then go East again to Zurich. Thun from there is either high mountain passes or the Lötschenberg train Tunnel (must put car on train)- great for a day trip- and absolute nightmare for commuting.
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Brig is on the main trainline to Italy and Milan, and the French speaking part of Switzerland, Romandie- and Geneva airport. From Lausanne you can then go East again to Zurich. Thun from there is either high mountain passes or the Lötschenberg train Tunnel (must put car on train)- great for a day trip- and absolute nightmare for commuting.
From Brig, which has been previously mentioned as the workplace, you'd go through Lötschenberg for anywhere Bern and northwards anyway.
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Re: Living in Valais

I live in Wallis. It's a big place, areas are very different. However I wouldn't live in Brig itself (or Visp) they are not particularly nice towns. There are many nice villages around though. You could go further west and live in the French speaking part if you fancy dealing with 2 languages. However, for a more lively home life, it's pretty quick to get the train in from Thun or Interlaken.

Edit.... if you fancy a cheaper life and it's a possibility nationality wise..... Domodossola (Italy) is gorgeous and also a short train ride from Brig!
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But- you have to understand the + and -

with regard to unemployment benefits if you lose your job, sickness insurance, pensions, etc.
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Re: Living in Valais

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Thun from there is either high mountain passes or the Lötschenberg train Tunnel (must put car on train)- great for a day trip- and absolute nightmare for commuting.
You don't have to put a car on the train.

How is a 46 minute direct trip with only one intermediate stop (Visp) a nightmare?

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Re: Living in Valais

Yep the passenger train goes through the new tunnel.... no climb up to the Lötschberg anymore!
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Re: Living in Valais

FWIW, one of the advantages of migrating for a job is the opportunity to live 'close' to work and remove the stress/cost/time of any commute.
While Thun is doable, there is also the commute at either end, and being forced to stick to the timetables.

Personaly I'd try and find somewhere within cycling distance to work and remove the hassle of public transport and recoup lost commuting time.
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Re: Living in Valais

currently I live in the bicycle distance and when the weather good is, it takes me less than 20 min with bicycle. and this would be nice, but between Visp and Brig doesn't look so nice and I am not country person, so smaller villages in between would not work for me.

for Thun, I am shocked how expensive the rent is. almost 20% more than Bern area. and the appartments go so fast from the market. the question is, what should be the highest price that I could say that it is acceptable even though it is pricey.
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Re: Living in Valais

Have a look also at Sion, Sierre, Interlaken and Domodossola, Thun is nice but not the only option!
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Yep the passenger train goes through the new tunnel.... no climb up to the Lötschberg anymore!
Sorry, my mistake. Never taken new Tunnel.
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Have a look also at Sion, Sierre, Interlaken and Domodossola, Thun is nice but not the only option!

Not sure - if commuting by train - you would want to stay in Interlaken as you would have to change in Spiez. Talking of which I would add Spiez to this list as it is the last Bernese station before the Tunnel, is on the lake (Ok, down the hill a bit), and is cheaper than Thun.
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Personally, I'd say why make life so complicated at the start. Come, live near work- spend your free time visiting places, trying things out, and see. After 1 year, make sure you stick to the lease conditions and move if you have found your dream place. Why commute- if you can live near work, cycle there or very short commute- and spend free time exploring- from Brig you really can go in all directions so easily ba car or train.
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currently I live in the bicycle distance and when the weather good is, it takes me less than 20 min with bicycle. and this would be nice, but between Visp and Brig doesn't look so nice and I am not country person, so smaller villages in between would not work for me.

for Thun, I am shocked how expensive the rent is. almost 20% more than Bern area. and the appartments go so fast from the market. the question is, what should be the highest price that I could say that it is acceptable even though it is pricey.
1/3 of your salary. Landlords will consider that too.

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Personally, I'd say why make life so complicated at the start. Come, live near work- spend your free time visiting places, trying things out, and see. After 1 year, make sure you stick to the lease conditions and move if you have found your dream place. Why commute- if you can live near work, cycle there or very short commute- and spend free time exploring- from Brig you really can go in all directions so easily ba car or train.
This.
Valais is a bit exotic to me . Maybe because I have a hard time understanding their Swissgerman, travelling to neighbourhood countries is easier for me language wise.
Still, even I checked the house-market there lately (after all, I speak French, LOL).

What I mean is I agree fully with Odile because I think you should grab the chance to experience a totally new part of Switzerland even if it most likely will not be THE place for you. You can always move again but when you do, yet keep the job, you will know what points you need to consider for yourself.
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