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Re: Border closing between Ticino and Italy

I’ve just added another to my ignore list. Don’t be surprised when I don’t reply to your posts in the future.
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Old 10.03.2020, 21:41
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You did kind of drip feed him the information.
You could have just given him all the information he needed in one post from the outset without all the questions.
I could, and than I perhaps would have found out he has form 15.25 in the car and all is fine or he knows and simply did not care. Also I did not drip feed the info, I asked him two questions and since he was not aware I gave him the full info including costs and form number in one post, just like I gave Island Monkey the whole procedure for rentals.

Typical EF, even if I'm friendly and factual there are still people who think its not good enough.
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Old 10.03.2020, 21:47
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Re: Border closing between Ticino and Italy

I'm late to this thread, and maybe some posts have been removed or edited, I don't know.

From what I can see:
post 1 - Bugsy asks for advice.
post 2 - Edwin suggests a very practical solution.
post 10 - Edwin explains why having a rental car from abroad is problematic in Switzerland.
post 11 - DantesDame confirms that not everyone realises that these rules apply.

Seems fine, and helpful, to me.
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I'm late to this thread, and maybe some posts have been removed or edited, I don't know.

From what I can see:
post 1 - Bugsy asks for advice.
post 2 - Edwin suggests a very practical solution.
post 10 - Edwin explains why having a rental car from abroad is problematic in Switzerland.
post 11 - DantesDame confirms that not everyone realises that these rules apply.

Seems fine, and helpful, to me.
Nothing removed, this is all.
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Old 10.03.2020, 21:53
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Re: Border closing between Ticino and Italy

Edwin, I think you very often provide helpful information, and I have learnt a great deal from you over the years. Thank you. I cannot see that you have done anything wrong on this thread. On the contrary, here, too, thanks to your post, I learnt something I had not before understood, and I am grateful to you for that.
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If it's both ways, how is the idea of someone picking up the car at the border gonna work? Loosen the handbrake and give it a push?
Not to mention that questions will be asked (re "Swiss" driver of car with Italian plates).
If they have more cars/ people with the same problem they might want to arrange a truck to pick the whole bunch up at once, the border is not completely closed and goods and trucks can pass pretty easily since they do not want to disturb business and deliveries more than already happening. And yeah they might ask some money for each car to do it like that, but it would make things so much easier for OP.
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Old 10.03.2020, 22:07
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Re: Border closing between Ticino and Italy

I also found this most helpful as I had in fact considered benefiting from the much cheaper rates across the border for a longer-term rental within Switzerland.
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Re: Border closing between Ticino and Italy

I suspect the issue here is the Italian lockdown and not a border closure per se. The lockdown means that the reasons for travelling in Italy at all are very restricted - basically work related or going to your home.

The Swiss currently state the border is currently open. Even if closed I would imagine Swiss residents would still be allowed back - as is happening on the Austrian/Italian border.
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Re: Border closing between Ticino and Italy

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That you are committing tax-fraud by driving an Italian registered car in Switzerland as a Swiss resident without special approval.

That is not necessarily the case, it depends on the car he picked up from the agency. Some agencies have cars that are cleared to be rented out in this manner, it depends on what the OP was given.
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That is not necessarily the case, it depends on the car he picked up from the agency. Some agencies have cars that are cleared to be rented out in this manner, it depends on what the OP was given.
Never heard of such, How would that work, and how would a local tax officer know such? I only am aware of the possibility to request a Swiss car at a bunch of foreign pick-up points.
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Old 11.03.2020, 05:21
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Re: Border closing between Ticino and Italy

Hi Edwin!

Helpful - had no idea and like many others thought "you rent a car and drive"

Is this specific to Italian rental cars or any rentals cars brought into CH regardless of origin?

Thank you!
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Old 11.03.2020, 06:19
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Re: Border closing between Ticino and Italy

Nope. It is any foreign car brought into CH if you are a CH resident.

Edwin is actually right. He is positively glowing.

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Hi Edwin!

Helpful - had no idea and like many others thought "you rent a car and drive"

Is this specific to Italian rental cars or any rentals cars brought into CH regardless of origin?

Thank you!
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Nope. It is any foreign car brought into CH if you are a CH resident.

Edwin is actually right. He is positively glowing.
Thanks. Read up about it and seems also some rules if you are a EU resident and drive a Swiss rental car into EU - you can only drive it to your place of residence.

However, if your residency is outside the EU then you can rent a car in EU and drive into CH and vice-versa, correct?
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That is not necessarily the case, it depends on the car he picked up from the agency. Some agencies have cars that are cleared to be rented out in this manner, it depends on what the OP was given.
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Never heard of such, How would that work, and how would a local tax officer know such? I only am aware of the possibility to request a Swiss car at a bunch of foreign pick-up points.
This is possible, I know of specific cases of cars registered here but additionally duty paid in Austria so Austrian employees can drive them. The relevant customs papers are carried with the car.

Unlikely that a random rental from an Italian company would do it, however.
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This is possible, I know of specific cases of cars registered here but additionally duty paid in Austria so Austrian employees can drive them. The relevant customs papers are carried with the car.

Unlikely that a random rental from an Italian company would do it, however.
Yes, such I know, I never said it is impossible to drive a foreign car here. But with Rentals I only know of the construction where you tell them to supply you with a Swiss car.
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Yes, such I know, I never said it is impossible to drive a foreign car here. But with Rentals I only know of the construction where you tell them to supply you with a Swiss car.
Would disagree with that. Renter car in Zurich last summer to be returned in Frankfurt and was supplied with German plates. We are not residents though so maybe someone did that connection.
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Re: Border closing between Ticino and Italy

From what I'm reading about the hospitals in Northern Italy, I would not go there under any circumstances right now. Call the agency and work something out with them. If you get into an accident, the ambulances won't get to you for an hour, not to mention that you'll infect the people around you if you've been exposed to the virus. Nobody should be going there right now unless it's to render help, deliver food or do something else useful to the people living there.
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Thought rental cars were exempt!?
No.

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Hi Edwin!

Helpful - had no idea and like many others thought "you rent a car and drive"

Is this specific to Italian rental cars or any rentals cars brought into CH regardless of origin?

Thank you!
Non Swiss.

Same applies to an Italian resident driving a Swiss registered car (and the Italians are much more vigilant about it than the Swiss).

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Re: Border closing between Ticino and Italy

So what happens if a Swiss, resident of Italy, drives an Italian car in Switzerland?
He has to have the Italian permit with him at all times, I guess?
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