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Get the Swiss navy on the job, it'll be sorted out in no time.


A bit dated, but Switzerland HAS a navy! https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/out---a...parade/1653116
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Old 11.03.2020, 16:25
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Re: Border closing between Ticino and Italy

I don't know the area.. Nine border posts closed.. What is that meaningful, are there more than nine? Does it mean the border is closed at the point? Or just that the office is closed.?



Neuf postes frontières ont été fermés entre le Tessin et l’Italie.

Les CFF et Swiss ont décidé de réduire leurs offres vers l’Italie. Swiss a suspendu tous ses vols vers ce pays.

Le canton de Genève interdit les manifestations publiques ou privées qui regroupent plus de 100 personnes.
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3 years ago that was true at Geneva airport, for the last 2 years they are renting Swiss cars to everyone & say there is no longer an issue. I live in the EU & rent cars from Geneva to drive in France about 10 times a year.
Many rental companies say there is no issue, they do not have to pay the fines or taxes. I can't find any ruling that allows such exceptions and one can still hire foreign cars in Switzerland, just have to announce that you want to do so.
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Old 11.03.2020, 16:32
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A bit dated, but Switzerland HAS a navy! https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/out---a...parade/1653116
Well, well, one never stops learning. Thanks for that.

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I don't know the area.. Nine border posts closed.. What is that meaningful, are there more than nine? Does it mean the border is closed at the point? Or just that the office is closed.?
LOL.

Yup:

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I don't know the area.. Nine border posts closed.. What is that meaningful, are there more than nine? Does it mean the border is closed at the point? Or just that the office is closed.?



Neuf postes frontières ont été fermés entre le Tessin et l’Italie.

Les CFF et Swiss ont décidé de réduire leurs offres vers l’Italie. Swiss a suspendu tous ses vols vers ce pays.

Le canton de Genève interdit les manifestations publiques ou privées qui regroupent plus de 100 personnes.
As Tom said, these are 9 meaningless small unmanned borders crossing, they just close them to guide you to the bigger manned border crossings due to the checks.
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Old 11.03.2020, 16:37
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I don't know the area.. Nine border posts closed.. What is that meaningful, are there more than nine?
They closed 9 unmanned border crossings.

There are another 12 open ones that I can think of.

They idea is to make them used manned crossings.

(the one at Campione is unmanned, however)

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Old 11.03.2020, 16:54
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I don't know the area.. Nine border posts closed.. What is that meaningful, are there more than nine? Does it mean the border is closed at the point? Or just that the office is closed.
Well they claim they are physically closed...

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Old 11.03.2020, 16:55
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Well I was planning on heading south for Easter on the bike, get a bit of the healthy sea air. Some lovely roads are empty of traffic as well.
I went up to the Lake District U.K. at the height of the foot and mouth crisis.

No hiking or climbing so we took road bikes and had a glorious time - the whole place was deserted and cycling on the empty roads was a real joy.

Of course we had to support the local economy which was suffering, by spending as much as we could in the local hostelries.
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Old 11.03.2020, 17:02
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It's many, but not most.

All of our doctors are Swiss.

And most frontalieri are not involved in healthcare, only 4k out of 70k.

Tom
Can't find any numbers but I would imagine in a canton of 350K people, 4,000 is a pretty hefty share of the total healthcare personnel. Total for the whole of Switzerland seems to be about 180,000, if proportionate to population that would indicate maybe 7,500 in total in Ti.
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Well I was planning on heading south for Easter on the bike, get a bit of the healthy sea air. Some lovely roads are empty of traffic as well.
Might be the once in a life time Easter without tailback messages for Gotthard on the radio (gee, they have to plan a whole new program ) and free road across the Gotthard.
You can tell your grand-children about it.
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Old 11.03.2020, 19:07
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Might be the once in a life time Easter without tailback messages for Gotthard on the radio (gee, they have to plan a whole new program ) and free road across the Gotthard.
You can tell your grand-children about it.
Well, there was that time that they closed the tunnel and the pass for three months except for those of us with TI or UR plates, fantastic!

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Old 11.03.2020, 19:11
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Can't find any numbers but I would imagine in a canton of 350K people, 4,000 is a pretty hefty share of the total healthcare personnel. Total for the whole of Switzerland seems to be about 180,000, if proportionate to population that would indicate maybe 7,500 in total in Ti.
You are off by nearly a factor of 4!

"An estimated 4,000 of the total 28,000 health care workers in the southern Swiss canton of Ticino live in Italy."

So, only 14%.

https://www.thelocal.ch/20200310/wha...or-switzerland

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Old 11.03.2020, 19:21
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Despite the lockdown, the Swiss/Italian border has remained open and even trains are going through. It has been a major topic of discussion.

The news ticker soon after I posted said that 9 borders have been newly closed between Italy and Switzerland, but not all:

https://www.20min.ch/schweiz/news/st...irus--18500160


And then...there were none!
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Old 11.03.2020, 19:24
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And then...there were none!
The 11 main border crossings, plus Campione, are still open.

Campione has no control, and a Lugano cop friend confirmed that there should be no control as it is entirely within Switzerland.

Really, they just have put people at the other 9 (and perhaps they will).

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Well, there was that time that they closed the tunnel and the pass for three months except for those of us with TI or UR plates, fantastic!

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When was that and why. I don't remember that.
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I find this part most interesting in that 20Minute article you linked:
<<Schutzmasken aus China für die Schweiz, die im Hamburger Hafen blockiert werden, sollen bald freigegeben werden. Das stellte Seco-Direktorin Marie-Gabrielle Ineichen-Fleisch am Mittwoch vor den Medien in Bern in Aussicht. Auch für Lastwagen, die Deutschland zurückhält, sei eine Lösung in Sicht.>>
Why is Germany blocking goods heading for Switzerland?!
I actually know one of the customs officers who dealt with this, the particular container had been released. However, Swiss companies are currently unable to access their stock in German warehouses. And in a particularly daft twist, Germany has blocked all protective gear from leaving the country, which happens to include things used by construction workers, hard hats and the like.
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Re: Border closing between Ticino and Italy

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But that does not contradict what I was saying, it is normal to rent a car with Swiss plates across the border for a Swiss, just like it is normal for a German to rent a car with German plates at Zürich airport when wanting to use it in Germany.
Sorry I think I read your post too quickly.

However, I am then wondering how do they ensure you are compliant? We did not enter our address in the online booking, showed up with Swiss passports and drivers licence and got a car with German plates. Potentially could have been trouble
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You can't rent a car with German plates in Switzerland. You can't rent a car with Swiss plates in France/Germany/Italy.
We did not request it but did just that. Got a car at Zurich airport with German plates.
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I want to thank all for helping me and especially to Edwin NL for educating me on the proper way to do this. I am truly glad to have found your forum. Cheers to All!
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When was that and why. I don't remember that.
15 years ago, when some rocks fell on the highway in Uri and they were afraid of more.

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