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India - rape gang hanged

The Indians finally hanged the 4 people responsible for the rape and murder of Jyoti Singh – who was christened Nirbhaya by Indian media, meaning “fearless”. The attack in 2012 caused outrage and some civil disruption.

Doesn't seem to be a deterrent, looking at the ongoing treatment of women in India, however certainly as a punishment, it is effective.

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Re: India - rape gang hanged

That the authorities are taking the matter seriously is obviously a good thing, I am just against the death penalty.
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The Indians finally hanged the 4 people responsible for the rape and murder of Jyoti Singh – who was christened Nirbhaya by Indian media, meaning “fearless”. The attack in 2012 caused outrage and some civil disruption.
Took way too long, but good it finally happened.

However from people I've spoken to, things have only improved marginally in a few parts of India.

Latest case I've heard was an 8-year girl raped and killed, and the village where it happened is standing behind the rapists because the girl was "an outsider".
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That the authorities are taking the matter seriously is obviously a good thing, I am just against the death penalty.
I think in a country like India I think that the death penalty is is the only logical way to punish such heinous crimes. The population is too massive to house in prisons and rapes are sadly too common for the beleaguered female population to simply give people light punishment and be free to do it again. I think it has to be seen as a capital and intolerable offence in order for the punishment to be anything approaching effective deterrent to such backwards mentalities. Fear of death is something that even the most barbaric of people understand.
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Rapists waving in the wind is always good news.
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Old 04.04.2020, 11:12
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I think in a country like India I think that the death penalty is is the only logical way to punish such heinous crimes. The population is too massive to house in prisons and rapes are sadly too common for the beleaguered female population to simply give people light punishment and be free to do it again. I think it has to be seen as a capital and intolerable offence in order for the punishment to be anything approaching effective deterrent to such backwards mentalities. Fear of death is something that even the most barbaric of people understand.
That should teach em.
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Fear of death is something that even the most barbaric of people understand.
That logic is flawed, why then are there still people waiting to be executed?
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Fear of death is something that even the most barbaric of people understand.
Not actually true.

When you've got reincarnation to look forward to, as is believed in many religions in India, death is just the start of a new life.
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Re: India - rape gang hanged

The death penalty is wrong, plain and simple.
This can only be tackled by rehabilitation of the sick bastards responsible; with broader educational reform to drive cultural change and greater respect for women.
(Unless of course I've been brainwashed by my ex)

It's also likely that the 'rehabilitation' will give them a taste of what they've done which might be no bad thing.

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Not actually true.

When you've got reincarnation to look forward to, as is believed in many religions in India, death is just the start of a new life.
Can you imagine being reborn as a tapeworm?
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That logic is flawed, why then are there still people waiting to be executed?
I don't get the logic of your question... are you saying that because people are not immediately executed on the spot that a death sentence isn't a deterrent?

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The death penalty is wrong, plain and simple.
This can only be tackled by rehabilitation of the sick bastards responsible; with broader educational reform to drive cultural change and greater respect for women.
(Unless of course I've been brainwashed by my ex)

It's also likely that the 'rehabilitation' will give them a taste of what they've done which might be no bad thing.

"You sure gotta pretty mouth"
Yeah of course, spend many millions "rehabilitating" gang rapists comprised mostly of illiterate peasants in a country with an abnormally large proportion of them and where their lives are worth almost nothing from the perspective of their governments. Makes perfect sense.

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Not actually true.

When you've got reincarnation to look forward to, as is believed in many religions in India, death is just the start of a new life.
lol...
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Can you imagine being reborn as a tapeworm?
30 years in a nice warm safe environment with plenty of food and a "brain" that does not allow to ask for more than sleeping and eating to achieve total happiness.
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30 years in a nice warm safe environment with plenty of food and a "brain" that does not allow to ask for more than sleeping and eating to achieve total happiness.
....? I wanna be a tapeworm now.
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I don't get the logic of your question... are you saying that because people are not immediately executed on the spot that a death sentence isn't a deterrent?
No, Iīm saying that despite there being a death penalty on some actions people still do them, they donīt seem to be deterred one little bit.
Why then is the death penalty seen as something that stops people from committing a crime that carries it?
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No, Iīm saying that despite there being a death penalty on some actions people still do them, they donīt seem to be deterred one little bit.
Why then is the death penalty seen as something that stops people from committing a crime that carries it?
Always beats me when people think death penalty is the answer to crime, I see it more as an answer on how to prevent some people from ever roaming the streets again or needing millions of tax money to be stored away for the rest of their life.

If it would prevent crime it be nice, but it doesn't, never has and never will.
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No, Iīm saying that despite there being a death penalty on some actions people still do them, they donīt seem to be deterred one little bit.
Why then is the death penalty seen as something that stops people from committing a crime that carries it?
Hm, because the people who do do it can never do it again. Not to mention the millions of cash saved from keeping them locked up for the rest of their lives.

I can never understand why it's fine to put down a dog that bites someone (not kills, just bites) because everyone thinks it's reverting to it's natural/wild state yet are so against putting down a human who kills another human.
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Hm, because the people who do do it can never do it again. Not to mention the millions of cash saved from keeping them locked up for the rest of their lives.

I can never understand why it's fine to put down a dog that bites someone (not kills, just bites) because everyone thinks it's reverting to it's natural/wild state yet are so against putting down a human who kills another human.
Well for starters it is more expensive to have somebody on death row (Iīm talking about the US) than it is to have a life long imprisonment http://www.nbcnews.com/id/29552692/n.../#.XojUqFMzbJw
Apart from that there are simply too many cases of persons being executed who are innocent or where the sentence does not fit the crime.
There are 25 countries where the death penalty is still in law, and most of them are second or third tier countries where you can be executed for things that would not raise an eyebrow here.
Yes you are correct, that person canīt do another crime, but what if that person didnīt to the crime in the first place?
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Well for starters it is more expensive to have somebody on death row (Iīm talking about the US) than it is to have a life long imprisonment http://www.nbcnews.com/id/29552692/n.../#.XojUqFMzbJw
Apart from that there are simply too many cases of persons being executed who are innocent or where the sentence does not fit the crime.
There are 25 countries where the death penalty is still in law, and most of them are second or third tier countries where you can be executed for things that would not raise an eyebrow here.
Yes you are correct, that person canīt do another crime, but what if that person didnīt to the crime in the first place?
Then it's up to the country's justice system to work properly. Will be a long time happening. As for costs, do something about the appeals system so it doesn't take decades.
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There are 25 countries where the death penalty is still in law,
Actually more than 50 countries representing 60% of the worlds populations use death penalty.
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Actually more than 50 countries representing 60% of the worlds populations use death penalty.
That's mostly because China and India are on board.

That's easily 20-30% alone.

That said, the effectiveness of capital punishment as a deterrent has always been questionable.

Probably even more so in India, with many, many more people who have literally nothing to lose.
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