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bobob 21.03.2020 13:03

Flew out without my B Permit!
 
Hi

I took a quick flight back to the Uk for a week as I had holiday time booked and everything is in lockdown, but in my rush forgot my B Permit.

I happen to have a letter from the Rav as I need to be back for the 1st April for my first interview, so will this do, with an emailed rental contract, job contract?

If not, what next?

curley 21.03.2020 13:27

Re: Flew out without my B Permit!
 
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Originally Posted by bobob (Post 3161485)
Hi

I took a quick flight back to the Uk for a week as I had holiday time booked and everything is in lockdown, but in my rush forgot my B Permit.

I happen to have a letter from the Rav as I need to be back for the 1st April for my first interview, so will this do, with an emailed rental contract, job contract?

If not, what next?

You're residence permit is stored in the computer. It will depend on customs whether they are willing to check there and accept that result.

In your favour: They probably have more time available per client these days. :D

Verbier 21.03.2020 13:36

Re: Flew out without my B Permit!
 
My guess is also have a CH sim card in the phone which may help.

Jim2007 21.03.2020 14:00

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Originally Posted by curley (Post 3161502)
You're residence permit is stored in the computer. It will depend on customs whether they are willing to check there and accept that result.

In your favour: They probably have more time available per client these days. :D


It will depend on whether or not the airline agree to board him for a start...

doropfiz 21.03.2020 14:02

Re: Flew out without my B Permit!
 
Your employer should have a copy of your permit. Can you ask them to send you a copy?

blackbird 21.03.2020 14:09

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you got your membership from your health insurance or your swiss driving licence on you ?

bowlie 21.03.2020 14:19

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I have a folder on my phone / iPad which has high resolution copies of all my import documents. Passports, Swiss ID, Driverís license, Health Insurance Card, Credit Cards.

But as Jim points out above, your biggest challenge is to get the airline to accept you without the required documents. Airlines get big fines for bringing in inadmissible passenger, plus they have to remove you including, if necessary offloading a passenger on the return flight. Because it can be so expensive the airlines instruct their ground handlers to make no exceptions.

I recommend you contact the airline and find out from them if the documents you have are adequate for their purposes.

Good luck.

bobob 21.03.2020 15:19

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Originally Posted by Jim2007 (Post 3161521)
It will depend on whether or not the airline agree to board him for a start...

Easyjet had to wait to see if immigration had returned people, so I think not

bobob 21.03.2020 15:20

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Originally Posted by blackbird (Post 3161527)
you got your membership from your health insurance or your swiss driving licence on you ?

Health insurance emails yes

Island Monkey 21.03.2020 15:45

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Originally Posted by bobob (Post 3161565)
Health insurance emails yes

Assuming you have access to your eBanking, maybe print off a bank statement as proof of address?

bowlie 21.03.2020 16:16

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Seriously contact the airline and ask them what documents you need. And ask them to put a note in the PNR that youíve discussed this with them.

Anything that can be downloaded from the internet can be forged, quite easily.

Blueangel 21.03.2020 16:18

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Originally Posted by bowlie
But as Jim points out above, your biggest challenge is to get the airline to accept you without the required documents. Airlines get big fines for bringing in inadmissible passenger, plus they have to remove you including, if necessary offloading a passenger on the return flight. Because it can be so expensive the airlines instruct their ground handlers to make no exceptions.

I recommend you contact the airline and find out from them if the documents you have are adequate for their purposes.

Good luck.

That.

Call the airline and offer to email all the other documentation that you have with you or on email. When you speak to them, make a note of the time, date and the name of the agent you spoke to. Ask that agent to put notes into your booking and then stay on the call whilst they read those notes back to you. Airline agents are getting back to back calls at the moment, so the second you hang up, they get another call through automatically and might not have time to complete the notes in your booking.

If you have any issue at the airport, advise them that you spoke to this person on this date and they've put notes in the booking.

Good luck.

Verbier 21.03.2020 17:03

Re: Flew out without my B Permit!
 
Switzerland immigration services (according to RTS news today 15:00) have turned back 16'000 people up to Saturday and 5'000 of them in the last two days as they have started shutting down the borders. It did not mention if this was just border crossings or also airports.

If you are hoping to get back into CH, I would try to do so in the next couple of days or your risk of being refused (even with a permit) will go up exponentially. You do not mention if you are single. If so, your chances are even lower since you can stay in the UK without any downside for a family structure in CH.

bowlie 21.03.2020 17:22

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The majority is most likely at the land border crossings. This is because the airlines know better than to accept someone with inadequate documentation.

It IS your responsibility to have the correct documents, even if the rules are changed at the last moment.

Halseys 21.03.2020 17:35

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A friend only had a copy of her residence permit. Was due to fly Friday Gatwick to Zurich. Easy Jet refused to fly her. Even though copy of permit should be ok.
Flew the next day EasyJet Gatwick to Geneva
Friend had to pay for hotel herself.

ZuriRollt 21.03.2020 17:54

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Doubt that you will be welcomed by the Swiss / EU / EF community.

bowlie 21.03.2020 18:09

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Originally Posted by Halseys (Post 3161610)
Friend had to pay for hotel herself.

Who else? The airline? The British, the Swiss?

Jim2007 21.03.2020 18:36

Re: Flew out without my B Permit!
 
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Originally Posted by bobob (Post 3161564)
Easyjet had to wait to see if immigration had returned people, so I think not


They always have to wait as the immigration authorities have been know to reject people even if the ground staff have checked you.


They are fined for every rejection, so they will be very careful.

Jim2007 21.03.2020 18:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Halseys (Post 3161610)
A friend only had a copy of her residence permit. Was due to fly Friday Gatwick to Zurich. Easy Jet refused to fly her. Even though copy of permit should be ok.
Flew the next day EasyJet Gatwick to Geneva
Friend had to pay for hotel herself.


Why should a copy be OK, it is not exactly rocket science to alter a copy....

bobob 21.03.2020 20:46

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Originally Posted by Jim2007 (Post 3161631)
Why should a copy be OK, it is not exactly rocket science to alter a copy....

Yes, true, but itís a temporary shutdown, so not the end of the world to let someone in either.


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