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I took a quick flight back to the Uk for a week as I had holiday time booked and everything is in lockdown, but in my rush forgot my B Permit.

I happen to have a letter from the Rav as I need to be back for the 1st April for my first interview, so will this do, with an emailed rental contract, job contract?

If not, what next?
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Old 21.03.2020, 13:27
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I took a quick flight back to the Uk for a week as I had holiday time booked and everything is in lockdown, but in my rush forgot my B Permit.

I happen to have a letter from the Rav as I need to be back for the 1st April for my first interview, so will this do, with an emailed rental contract, job contract?

If not, what next?
You're residence permit is stored in the computer. It will depend on customs whether they are willing to check there and accept that result.

In your favour: They probably have more time available per client these days.
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Old 21.03.2020, 13:36
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Re: Flew out without my B Permit!

My guess is also have a CH sim card in the phone which may help.
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Old 21.03.2020, 14:00
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You're residence permit is stored in the computer. It will depend on customs whether they are willing to check there and accept that result.

In your favour: They probably have more time available per client these days.

It will depend on whether or not the airline agree to board him for a start...
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Old 21.03.2020, 14:02
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Re: Flew out without my B Permit!

Your employer should have a copy of your permit. Can you ask them to send you a copy?
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Re: Flew out without my B Permit!

you got your membership from your health insurance or your swiss driving licence on you ?
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Old 21.03.2020, 14:19
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Re: Flew out without my B Permit!

I have a folder on my phone / iPad which has high resolution copies of all my import documents. Passports, Swiss ID, Driverís license, Health Insurance Card, Credit Cards.

But as Jim points out above, your biggest challenge is to get the airline to accept you without the required documents. Airlines get big fines for bringing in inadmissible passenger, plus they have to remove you including, if necessary offloading a passenger on the return flight. Because it can be so expensive the airlines instruct their ground handlers to make no exceptions.

I recommend you contact the airline and find out from them if the documents you have are adequate for their purposes.

Good luck.
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you got your membership from your health insurance or your swiss driving licence on you ?
Health insurance emails yes
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It will depend on whether or not the airline agree to board him for a start...
Easyjet had to wait to see if immigration had returned people, so I think not
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Old 21.03.2020, 18:36
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Easyjet had to wait to see if immigration had returned people, so I think not

They always have to wait as the immigration authorities have been know to reject people even if the ground staff have checked you.


They are fined for every rejection, so they will be very careful.
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Re: Flew out without my B Permit!

Doubt that you will be welcomed by the Swiss / EU / EF community.
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Re: Flew out without my B Permit!

Ok,

You should stay in the UK. Go somewhere remote where you might be able to get medical treatment for the Coronvirus-19 you now have. Seriously ...

Did you know there was a pandemic going on right now and countries all over the world are telling people to stay at home... and you do what... go get on an airplane with a bunch of other zombies cause you got some vacation time to burn...

Stay there? Don't come back.
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Ok,

You should stay in the UK. Go somewhere remote where you might be able to get medical treatment for the Coronvirus-19 you now have. Seriously ...

Did you know there was a pandemic going on right now and countries all over the world are telling people to stay at home... and you do what... go get on an airplane with a bunch of other zombies cause you got some vacation time to burn...

Stay there? Don't come back.

Perhaps you could try a little harder to be even more rude and uncaring!

OP posted this on 21st March and so may have flown out on 14th March, well before the lockdown started. We don't know anything about him or his circumstances. Perhaps the holiday from work was to go and visit family and he felt the need to check on elderly relatives, Perhaps he also has family who need him here. Perhaps he was able to return days ago and is safely back at home

And I am also certain that OP thanks you sincerely for your informed medical diagnosis that he has the virus

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Old 27.03.2020, 10:38
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Hi

I took a quick flight back to the Uk for a week as I had holiday time booked and everything is in lockdown, but in my rush forgot my B Permit.

I happen to have a letter from the Rav as I need to be back for the 1st April for my first interview, so will this do, with an emailed rental contract, job contract?

If not, what next?
Are you sure this interview at RAV will take place? I would call them. Won't solve your problem but give you a bit more time to sort it.
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Are you sure this interview at RAV will take place? I would call them. Won't solve your problem but give you a bit more time to sort it.
Currently there is no personal contact possible to the RAV, everything is done via Phone or email.
You don` t have to supply any proof of applications until the corona mayhem has come to an end.
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Are you sure this interview at RAV will take place? I would call them. Won't solve your problem but give you a bit more time to sort it.

Did you tell RAV you were going to leave the country? Normally once you know you will become unemployed you have to straight away start looking for a new job. If you left CH without the permission of RAV, you could have a problem. It depends a lot on your RAV advisor but in theory they could completely stop all unemployment money.
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Re: Flew out without my B Permit!

I was in the exact same situation last Sunday. I have left my B permit in my flat and travelled with the UK passport. At the airport the staff would not board me without the physical permit, and the photo on my phone was not enough. They called some who was on the line with the immigration and they confirmed only physical permit in my hand will work. As everyone boarded, there was still a guy from London who was coming to an antenatal appointment to his Swiss girlfriend and who had a little daughter in Switzerland, but no permit. The Swiss Air stuff called someone who was on the line with immigration again, they said they have to have all his paper work (copy of the appointment letter etc) faced to them and they will make a call. That was not feasible in the short time before the plane had to leave, but I managed to beg the guy to run me with immigration as they had them on the phone. They did that, I got a green light and I managed to fly back. But that was a close one and the Swiss Air stuff told they have turned around multiple people with the same predicament away. So I would suggest a photocopy is not a guarantee and you will struggle without the actual permit. Have it couriered?
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Old 28.03.2020, 21:36
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Re: Flew out without my B Permit!

If one labels an envelope as ‘documents’ any courier company would accept it.

If you label it as passport their rules require them to reject it.

BTW we haven’t heard from the OP for some time, I wonder what actually happened?
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