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23.03.2020, 16:00
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| | Sounds Like Age Discrimination
It is my understanding that (in Ticino) people over the age of 65 are no longer allowed to shop for groceries. As if this is not enough, they are also not allowed on the bus or train systems. Neither allowed to leave they're homes so as to walk outside. Obviously, they have been "unofficially quarantined". Can anyone give me a logical and reasonable explanation for this?
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23.03.2020, 16:04
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| | Re: Sounds Like Age Discrimination | Quote: | |  | | | It is my understanding that (in Ticino) people over the age of 65 are no longer allowed to shop for groceries. As if this is not enough, they are also not allowed on the bus or train systems. Neither allowed to leave they're homes so as to walk outside. Obviously, they have been "unofficially quarantined". Can anyone give me a logical and reasonable explanation for this? | | | | | Have you heard of Corona? (not the beer)
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23.03.2020, 16:04
| | Re: Sounds Like Age Discrimination
The moment they stop needing so much hospital beds due to Corona they can go out again.
If it be people with big foots being the highest group at risk we should put people with size 46 and more inside.
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23.03.2020, 16:05
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| | Re: Sounds Like Age Discrimination | Quote: |  | | | They moment they stop needing so much hospital beds due to Corona they can go out again. | | | | | So we'll see them in about 12-18 months when the vaccine is made
Whoever survives that long in captivity | 
23.03.2020, 16:06
| | Re: Sounds Like Age Discrimination | Quote: | |  | | | So we'll see them in about 12-18 months when the vaccine is made
Whoever survives that long in captivity  | | | | | Nelson Mandela to name one of many millions who spend much more time in captivity...
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23.03.2020, 16:07
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| | Re: Sounds Like Age Discrimination | Quote: |  | | | Nelson Mandela to name one of many millions who spend much more time in captivity... | | | | | It's easy when you are dedicated for a cause
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23.03.2020, 16:08
| | Re: Sounds Like Age Discrimination | Quote: | |  | | | It's easy when you are dedicated for a cause | | | | | Staying alive is indeed hardly a cause worth staying inside, you are fully correct.
(damn, the dumbness...)
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23.03.2020, 16:09
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| | Re: Sounds Like Age Discrimination | Quote: | |  | | | It is my understanding that (in Ticino) people over the age of 65 are no longer allowed to shop for groceries. As if this is not enough, they are also not allowed on the bus or train systems. Neither allowed to leave they're homes so as to walk outside. Obviously, they have been "unofficially quarantined". Can anyone give me a logical and reasonable explanation for this? | | | | | Start reading and stop embarrassing yourself, really.... https://www.swissinfo.ch | The following 6 users would like to thank Jim2007 for this useful post: | | 
23.03.2020, 16:10
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| | Re: Sounds Like Age Discrimination | Quote: |  | | | Staying alive is indeed hardly a cause worth staying inside, you are fully correct.
(damn, the dumbness...) | | | | | Sunday night bingo will do I think
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23.03.2020, 16:19
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| | Re: Sounds Like Age Discrimination | Quote: | |  | | | It is my understanding that (in Ticino) people over the age of 65 are no longer allowed to shop for groceries. As if this is not enough, they are also not allowed on the bus or train systems. Neither allowed to leave they're homes so as to walk outside. Obviously, they have been "unofficially quarantined". Can anyone give me a logical and reasonable explanation for this? | | | | | Your understanding is incorrect.
Only Uri has implemented a no shopping for over 65 rule, and that is being fought in court.
Tom
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23.03.2020, 16:28
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| | Re: Sounds Like Age Discrimination | Quote: | |  | | | Your understanding is incorrect.
Only Uri has implemented a no shopping for over 65 rule, and that is being fought in court.
Tom | | | | | Nella giornata di sabato il Governo ticinese ha adottate nuove misure per contenere i contagi da Covid-19: divieto di fare la spesa per gli anziani e chiusura di industrie e cantieri. https://www.ticinonews.ch/estero/498...legge-federale | This user would like to thank V__ for this useful post: | | 
23.03.2020, 16:35
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| | Re: Sounds Like Age Discrimination | Quote: | |  | | | It is my understanding that (in Ticino) people over the age of 65 are no longer allowed to shop for groceries. | | | | | Makes sense. Keep the most vulnerable away from other people. | Quote: |  | | | As if this is not enough, they are also not allowed on the bus or train systems. | | | | | Makes sense. Keep the most vulnerable away from other people. | Quote: |  | | | Neither allowed to leave they're homes so as to walk outside. | | | | | So long as they avoid (or are avoided by) other people, I don't see any reason for this. I'm open to a logical, reasoned explanation. Though given the response to your question, I expect groans and "haven't you read the news" responses instead. But here's hoping! | The following 2 users would like to thank NotAllThere for this useful post: | | 
23.03.2020, 16:39
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| | Re: Sounds Like Age Discrimination | Quote: | |  | | | Nella giornata di sabato il Governo ticinese ha adottate nuove misure per contenere i contagi da Covid-19: divieto di fare la spesa per gli anziani e chiusura di industrie e cantieri. | | | | | OK, so they can't go in stores, but they can still go outside and take public transport.
Tom
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23.03.2020, 16:50
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| | Re: Sounds Like Age Discrimination
To the OP's defense, overt age discrimination is uncomfortable for Americans-especially in the workplace.
example:
I'm on the C-19 executive task force of my MNC (>$7B USD) and was asked what proactive measures I was doing in my division that could be shared as best practice. From reading some of the measures being taken in Europe, I shared that I had directed my managers to review any skill sets/roles of people >60 that could be single points of failure to the business and start cross training (assumption being that age based restrictions may be implemented here in the US).
My God, after getting a call from our corporate HR SVP, telling my how irresponsible this was and that there would never be any such directives like that in the US, etc, etc., one would have thought I had recommended human sacrifice. I reworded the directive to look at all single points of failure in case someone "became ill".
Later that day, I screen shot the press conference by Cuomo (Gov of NY State) which clearly stated heavier restrictions were being placed on older citizens > 65 and sent it to the SVP.
crickets.
having said that: OP - you are not in Kansas any more. Get over it.
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23.03.2020, 16:51
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| | Re: Sounds Like Age Discrimination | Quote: | |  | | | Your understanding is incorrect.
Only Uri has implemented a no shopping for over 65 rule, and that is being fought in court.
Tom | | | | | Unfortunately your wrong. My other half was turned away from two grocery stores because of being over 65. We watched others being turned away for the same reason. One other family was turned away because they would only allow one person from each family to enter (all this at the Coop). When we got home we called the Commune and were told that public transportation is out. That we would risk being fined if caught using it. We were also told that we are not supposed to go out at all.
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23.03.2020, 16:52
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| | Re: Sounds Like Age Discrimination | Quote: | |  | | | Unfortunately your wrong. My other half was turned away from two grocery stores because of being over 65. We watched others being turned away for the same reason. One other family was turned away because they would only allow one person from each family to enter (all this at the Coop). When we got home we called the Commune and were told that public transportation is out. That we would risk being fined if caught using it. We were also told that we are not supposed to go out at all. | | | | | You need to stay home and not go out, how hard is that to understand?
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23.03.2020, 16:55
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| | Re: Sounds Like Age Discrimination | Quote: | |  | | | OK, so they can't go in stores, but they can still go outside and take public transport.
Tom | | | | | Told by Commune that public transportation is out, as well as walking outside.
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23.03.2020, 16:55
| | Re: Sounds Like Age Discrimination | Quote: | |  | | | Unfortunately your wrong. My other half was turned away from two grocery stores because of being over 65. We watched others being turned away for the same reason. One other family was turned away because they would only allow one person from each family to enter (all this at the Coop). When we got home we called the Commune and were told that public transportation is out. That we would risk being fined if caught using it. We were also told that we are not supposed to go out at all. | | | | | If it is a governmental ruling you surely can just link to the ruling.
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23.03.2020, 16:56
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| | Re: Sounds Like Age Discrimination
I think we all just have to accept things as they are at the moment and follow whatever rules are given to us.
I would far rather be here than in the UK at the moment, given all the bewildering reports I'm seeing about a Prime Minister who doesn't seem to have too great a handle on the situation and all the stories about idiots going out panic buying.
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23.03.2020, 16:58
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| | Re: Sounds Like Age Discrimination | Quote: | |  | | | You need to stay home and not go out, how hard is that to understand? | | | | | And if you have no internet to order online exactly how are you meant to shop? And even if you do good luck placing an order.
I get that they're trying to keep us oldies safe, but for some of us it may not be an option to stay in 24/7.
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