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Yeah, I almost added a side note to say that FFP3 is actually the best, though they are more difficult to find (and more expensive). I wonder which kind it is that you see medical workers wearing when they're in the hazmat suits.

The masks at OBI do have the valve. Is it actually better to have the kind that does NOT have a valve, then, since the air is unfiltered through a valve, as you said?
With valves there is zero protection for those around you. So if you wear them for yourselves it does not matter, if you also wear them for others they are useless.

Medical workers these days I assume to wear whatever they can get their hands on.
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Old 17.05.2020, 18:13
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Re: Face Masks

I have a question for the people who have homemade masks. If you go out in the car shopping, how many masks do you take with you?
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Old 17.05.2020, 20:46
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I have a question for the people who have homemade masks. If you go out in the car shopping, how many masks do you take with you?
I keep a stash of maybe 10 or so in the car. Each is in a plastic bag. Put a mask on when I go into a store or other building, take it off when I leave. Used mask goes back into the bag. If I go into a second store - which is rare these days - I use a fresh mask. When I get home, leave the mask(s) hanging in the garden for a while, assuming we have sun. Then into the wash.

Replenish the stash in the car regularly.

Simple.

It may seem OTT to some, but wearing a mask as I run errands is such a little thing, there really is no downside to me and it might help keep others safer. Many of the people I tend to see out and about are in higher risk groups.

The thing that worries me most about this virus is that at any point in time you don't know if you could be infected.

I desperately want to get back to normal, I want the economy open and running again. Keeping distance, washing hands, and yes, doing what you can to protect others is IMO the way to make that happen.
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Old 17.05.2020, 21:01
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With valves there is zero protection for those around you. So if you wear them for yourselves it does not matter, if you also wear them for others they are useless.

Medical workers these days I assume to wear whatever they can get their hands on.
Interesting. I just read that masks with valves are banned in part of California now (whereas wearing any kind of mask in public -- as long as it doesn't have a valve -- is now mandatory).

https://www.fastcompany.com/90496717...s-banning-them
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Old 17.05.2020, 21:12
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I was in a Denner and an Aldi yesterday, both pretty crowded, and I was the only one wearing a mask. I'm surprised that they are not provided to and mandatory to wear for employees.
I live out in the sticks, hardly anyone wears a fagrag out here.
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Old 17.05.2020, 21:48
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I live out in the sticks, hardly anyone wears a fagrag out here.
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I keep a stash of maybe 10 or so in the car. Each is in a plastic bag. Put a mask on when I go into a store or other building, take it off when I leave. Used mask goes back into the bag. If I go into a second store - which is rare these days - I use a fresh mask. When I get home, leave the mask(s) hanging in the garden for a while, assuming we have sun. Then into the wash.

Replenish the stash in the car regularly.

Simple.

It may seem OTT to some, but wearing a mask as I run errands is such a little thing, there really is no downside to me and it might help keep others safer. Many of the people I tend to see out and about are in higher risk groups.

The thing that worries me most about this virus is that at any point in time you don't know if you could be infected.

I desperately want to get back to normal, I want the economy open and running again. Keeping distance, washing hands, and yes, doing what you can to protect others is IMO the way to make that happen
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This. I couldn't have said it any better myself without sounding like a totally self-serving prick.

Tbh I didn't see the necessity of wearing masks so far, but I'll/we'll defo do it from now on.

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I live out in the sticks, hardly anyone wears a fagrag out here.
Lukaschenka, is it you?

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As has been said many times in this thread, wearing a mask doesn't protect you from very much. It protects others from you and obviously only if you are ill yourself.
I'm particularly amused by people driving around in their cars whilst wearing masks. Can anyone explain the reasoning behind this? What are they protecting themselves from and who are they protecting?
I don't remove it in the car because I don't have access to water and soap to wash my hands and dispose of the mask properly in the car. I put it on, and unless it gets dirty from a sneeze, I don't take it off until I have access to soap and water. I have hand sanitizer in case I need to take it off elsewhere, but it's not as effective. This is how I was taught to wear a mask during SARS, so I guess old habits die hard.

I wear a mask because I do not wish to be responsible for asymptomatic spread. I've only gone out a handful of times since the end of February, but given that I've had to go to the pharmacy and to see the doctor in that time... I could have picked up something and been asymptomatic. I live near a bunch of nursing homes and my local pharmacy is frequented by them. I don't wish to be responsible for getting them sick... I'm a bleeding heart though.
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Old 18.05.2020, 17:11
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Medical workers these days I assume to wear whatever they can get their hands on.
My UK hometown has been hit by the virus harder than Zurich. This photo is from the local paper last week and is of the team there escorting a nurse out of ICU after her being in there for over a week. I know they initially had issues sourcing PPE but it looks as if this has now been resolved thanks to localised efforts. You can see that more than one type of mask is being used, and one is a type I haven't previously seen outside of a car paint spraying environment.

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Old 18.05.2020, 23:45
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I wonder why the patient in that picture is not wearing a mask. Or do they have reason to believe that she's no longer infectious?
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Old 19.05.2020, 08:08
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Re: Face Masks

I came across this article yesterday:

Poll finds Swiss want tougher mask regime on public transport

"An opinion poll by the Tamedia newspaper group, published on Monday, found that more than two out of three respondents would prefer masks to be mandatory in trains and buses to protect people against the infectious Covid-19 virus."

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/mandato...sport/45766192
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Old 19.05.2020, 17:11
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I came across this article yesterday:

Poll finds Swiss want tougher mask regime on public transport

"An opinion poll by the Tamedia newspaper group, published on Monday, found that more than two out of three respondents would prefer masks to be mandatory in trains and buses to protect people against the infectious Covid-19 virus."

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/mandato...sport/45766192
Having seen how nutty people in the USA are getting over mandatory masks, I really hope it does not become mandatory here. The enforcement alone is nearly impossible anyway, and imo police have better things to do with their time than enforce mask-wearing.

I had to ride public transport last week for the first time since March. I rode both train and bus. I was the only one wearing a mask on the train (at least in my carriage), but people were well spaced apart. Even at what would normally be a peak time, there were not many riders.

The bus was much more crowded than the train. Some people wore masks and some didn't. People tried to space themselves out, but it's not very easy. As each person got on there were lots of nervous looks about where the person might sit or stand.

I was the only patient in my doctor's practice that was wearing a mask, but there were not more than 2 of us in the waiting room at any given time. The staff were cleaning all the time.
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Old 21.05.2020, 17:22
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Re: Face Masks

From the 20 Min, a 3D simulation (done by the firm MSC Software) showing how wearing a mask can make a significant difference traveling on public transportation where keeping distance is not always possible:

https://www.20min.ch/story/eine-mask...d-290829224397
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Re: Face Masks

I pretty much have gone back to my pre corona days. I block out all thoughts of Corona when I am moving around the city.
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I pretty much have gone back to my pre corona days. I block out all thoughts of Corona when I am moving around the city.
This is how we'll get that second wave of covid-19, and this is why I'm no longer taking public transport. I'm only driving now.
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Old 23.05.2020, 02:53
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Having seen how nutty people in the USA are getting over mandatory masks, I really hope it does not become mandatory here. The enforcement alone is nearly impossible anyway, and imo police have better things to do with their time than enforce mask-wearing.

I had to ride public transport last week for the first time since March. I rode both train and bus. I was the only one wearing a mask on the train (at least in my carriage), but people were well spaced apart. Even at what would normally be a peak time, there were not many riders.

The bus was much more crowded than the train. Some people wore masks and some didn't. People tried to space themselves out, but it's not very easy. As each person got on there were lots of nervous looks about where the person might sit or stand.

I was the only patient in my doctor's practice that was wearing a mask, but there were not more than 2 of us in the waiting room at any given time. The staff were cleaning all the time.
A friend of mine here went to her doctor's office a few days ago to pick up some allergy medicine for her daughter, and she wasn't even allowed to enter unless she was wearing a mask. (They then allowed her to cover her face with something else).

According to the Mayo Clinic's website: "Asking everyone to wear cloth masks can help reduce the spread of COVID-19 by people who have the disease but don't realize it. And countries that required face masks, testing, isolation and social distancing early in the pandemic seem to have had some success slowing the disease's spread."
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...k/art-20485449

Another friend of mine who is from the UK but is currently living in Thailand told me that almost everyone there has been wearing a mask in public (due to the virus but also due to air pollution from farmers burning crops), and the spread of the virus has (relatively speaking) been kept under control there. There have only been 56 deaths there and 3,040 confirmed cases, even though they have had cases of the virus there since the 13th of January.
https://www.worldometers.info/corona...ntry/thailand/

Considering that the US has, thus far, been the most dramatically affected country in terms of numbers (or so I've read), I think that enforcing masks there is not a bad idea, but particularly in areas that have been so badly affected like Michigan and New York. Perhaps having to wear a mask in public also helps to deter people from going shopping when it isn't really necessary.
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So, after a little experimenting with both cotton reusable mask and the surgical one, it is so much more pleasant for me to wear my cotton mask. We made a couple so they get rotated and washed, it is not unsanitary. I wear them to public transport and anywhere with people, shops, filled streets. But it looks like the masks are getting more and more rare here. Surgical mask protects me against pollen, too, but is less nice on my face. I think when people realize the virus is here to stick with us, they will start wearing them again. Right now they are happy that it is summer and the measures are loosening up.
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