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Old 01.04.2020, 18:30
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It wasn't my idea, though. I watched a video tutorial done by woman who was asked to make ~10,000 masks for a hospital, and she mentioned the paper clip in her video. But I actually did order 100 proper nosebridge wires (the kind that are actually used in normal medical masks) from wish.com last week. It's been shipped already but I'm not sure when they will arrive here. I can send you some when they come. xx
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Old 01.04.2020, 18:32
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Are you also as passionate about issuing health and safety warnings about the proper use and effectiveness (or dangers) of these ‚Pininterest‘ masks? They are potential cesspits of viruses.
If that's the case, then why are hospitals asking for them to be made for them and why is the Center for Disease Control telling people that homemade masks are okay to be used? The masks are intended to be worn for a short time and then washed at a high temperature (60 degrees or higher, which is known to kill the virus). And in the case of the masks being made for hospitals, they are often thrown away after each use. Please do some proper research before trying to advise people that they shouldn't be wearing masks to help protect themselves and other people and/or that they shouldn't be making masks for hospitals to help ease the current problem of mask shortages.

People around the country are sewing masks. And some hospitals, facing dire shortage, welcome them

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/24/u...rnd/index.html

A Seattle-area hospital system is asking volunteers to sew fabric masks to make up for a shortage of protective gear to fight COVID-19

https://www.businessinsider.com/prov...20-3?r=US&IR=T

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Looks like you know it well, go ahead - chip in
Sure, but unfortunately this link will probably only be available to those subscribing to the Tages Anzeiger . From my experience, you can just register as a trial user, and don‘t need to give any payment details for 2 weeks. Ordering over Digitec Galaxus recently, also got a free 3 months freebie for subscribing. It sounds like I‘m working for ‚them‘, believe me I‘m not.

https://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/das-mue...n-365317151393

If anyone bothers to check this out, then you might also need to translate it through Google translate or otherwise.
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Old 01.04.2020, 19:33
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Ha haa. I just saw it now. SUPER cute, Spaghetti!

I have a question for you guys... If / when you make a mask and it has something to be used in it as a "nose bridge wire," how do you do that? I had found that a strip of ~2cm wide elastic sewn along the top and bottom, across the top of the inside of the mask, seems to work okay (and then a paper clip or wire, etc. can be slipped inside of it). But I'm wondering if there's a better or easier way? That thick strip of elastic (for the nose bridge sleeve) seems to hold up well in the wash at least. But I'm curious how you guys have done yours?
I use those cookie bag twist wires (the golden ones left over from christmas) they are nice and flat so it’s easy keep them in position

Edit: and double up if you like more strength (if you have thicker fabric)

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Old 01.04.2020, 19:37
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Are you also as passionate about issuing health and safety warnings about the proper use and effectiveness (or dangers) of these ‚Pininterest‘ masks? They are potential cesspits of viruses.
If you have read any of my posts...

Check out diymask.site , click “Manual”, super clear instructions, to wear and to clean.

Just like condoms, not rocket science. Use them incorrectly, potential cesspits of STDs.
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If you have read any of my posts...

Check out diymask.site , click “Manual”, super clear instructions, to wear and to clean.

Just like condoms, not rocket science. Use them incorrectly, potential cesspits of STDs.
You are one of the few posters that I bother to read
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Old 01.04.2020, 19:48
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I use those cookie bag twist wires (the golden ones left over from christmas) they are nice and flat so it’s easy keep them in position

Edit: and double up if you like more strength (if you have thicker fabric)
Okay, thanks. It dawned on me the other day while in my kitchen that bread bag ties would work well (I assume they're probably the same or very similar to the cookie bag twist wires). But do you sew some kind of "sleeve" to slide them into or do you sew your twist wires directly onto the mask, or?
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Old 01.04.2020, 19:55
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Re: Face Masks

Yeah, that requires a log-in so I wasn't able to access the full article to then translate it. But again, it doesn't make sense to me that, if wearing a mask poses more danger than NOT wearing one, then why are hospitals asking people to make them for them? And why is the Center for Disease Control's website advising people to make and wear them?
These DIY masks are being made to be worn short-term and then either be thrown away (disposable) or to be washed at a temp that is high enough to kill the virus (60 degrees or higher). And again, the masks aren't worn simply to protect the wearer from getting the virus. They're also worn to protect other people from getting the virus in case the person wearing the mask has the virus.

If you were in a grocery store full of 100 people and 10 of those people had the virus but didn't know it, would you really rather they were wearing no mask at all rather than a DIY mask with a filter in it?
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Old 01.04.2020, 19:55
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Okay, thanks. It dawned on me the other day while in my kitchen that bread bag ties would work well (I assume they're probably the same or very similar to the cookie bag twist wires). But do you sew some kind of "sleeve" to slide them into or do you sew your twist wires directly onto the mask, or?
I made a quick and dirty "infographic", see step 8, i stitched a line 7mm away from the edge, left both sides open, so one can always exchange the wire.

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If you were in a grocery store full of 100 people and 10 of those people had the virus but didn't know it, would you really rather they were wearing no mask at all rather than a DIY mask with a filter in it?
Good question. I‘m still on the fence about the mask thing.

If those 10 people were wearing clean, dry masks, yes probably I would prefer it. But if their masks were dirty, damp and not fitting correctly so that they touched their faces even more....no. Of course if they‘re ill, they need to be in quarantine.

And here is the thing with masks - there is a lot of hype and social pressure on both sides. The science Is unclear. So as I said, I’m on the fence.

If I thought a mask was a good thing, I’d probably cut up an old T-shirt like that guy in the wapo suggests and wash it at 95 degrees. Because I don‘t really sew.
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Old 01.04.2020, 20:24
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Re: Face Masks

Is it really this f'n complicated?!

It's a filter. It stops stuff from getting in and out. Like viruses. During a viral pandemic.

'But people don't use them correctly'

Would you rather they coughed up thousands of virus-laden micro droplets right in front you, or does being 2 meters away make it ok?

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I made a quick and dirty "infographic", see step 8, i stitched a line 7mm away from the edge, left both sides open, so one can always exchange the wire.
Thanks again. The masks I make are quite different from the ones you make (very different pattern). With mine, it's not as easy to sew a little pocket in at the top -- because with my pattern, the front part is made of two pieces of fabric that are sewn together along a curve, which makes the final front piece three-dimensional rather than laying flat. I'll post a small-scaled photo here just to show as an example. Maybe I should try making some in your style since it seems to be much easier to put a nose wire "sleeve" in those, since the fabric lays flat.

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Old 01.04.2020, 20:28
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Apparently in France " All face masks have been requisitioned by the state and selling one is now a crime."

(Today's Times - behind a paywall)
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Apparently in France " All face masks have been requisitioned by the state and selling one is now a crime."

(Today's Times - behind a paywall)
Dunno about it being a crime as such (because I didn't read that far) but this information was included in the guvmint announcement of a couple of weeks back, that told us all to stay at home if possible and take the "attestation" showing why we're out when we do go shopping or whatever.

Out in the shops there are a few people wearing them, also some with plastic or rubber gloves, which I find quite weird, seeing them walking round the supermarket wearing a pair of Marigolds.
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Thanks again. The masks I make are quite different from the ones you make (very different pattern). With mine, it's not as easy to sew a little pocket in at the top -- because with my pattern, the front part is made of two pieces of fabric that are sewn together along a curve, which makes the final front piece three-dimensional rather than laying flat. I'll post a small-scaled photo here just to show as an example. Maybe I should try making some in your style since it seems to be much easier to put a nose wire "sleeve" in those, since the fabric lays flat.

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or sew an extra strip of fabric on top, sides open.
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it doesn't make sense to me that, if wearing a mask poses more danger than NOT wearing one, then why are hospitals asking people to make them for them?
Hospitals need them to give to infected people to reduce the spread of droplets. They'll be monitored and changed regularly and treated properly as hazardous waste after use.

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And why is the Center for Disease Control's website advising people to make and wear them?
They're not.

CDC, like most other countries' healthcare bodies, currently recommend against the public using masks.

Yes, they are today being quoted as "reconsidering" that advice https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...being-reconsi/ but that's nowhere near what you said.
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Hospitals need them to give to infected people to reduce the spread of droplets. They'll be monitored and changed regularly and treated properly as hazardous waste after use.



They're not.

CDC, like most other countries' healthcare bodies, currently recommend against the public using masks.

Yes, they are today being quoted as "reconsidering" that advice https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...being-reconsi/ but that's nowhere near what you said.
Yes, the CDC is now beginning to advise people to wear homemade masks and even says on its website that people should consider making and wearing homemade masks. There were articles coming out before that were trying to discourage people from feeling that they need to wear a mask because they didn't want all the masks being bought up by the public and thus resulting in a mask shortage for hospitals.

"The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) may urge Americans to cover their faces in public to protect themselves and others amid the coronavirus pandemic, The Washington Post is reporting.The recommendation, if approved, would call for Americans to use cloth coverings instead of surgical and N95 masks, which have been in short supply at hospitals and medical facilities across the country, the Post noted, adding that the coverings could potentially lower the risk of an infected person transmitting the virus."
https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...-public-report
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or sew an extra strip of fabric on top, sides open.
Thanks. That's what I did at first but was finding it difficult to keep that small strip of fabric from fraying in the wash (I found it difficult to double-hem such a tiny piece of fabric). So that's why I switched to using that 2 cm wide piece of elastic to create the sleeve for the nose wire -- because the elastic doesn't fray in the wash. I think I'm going to try to make some soon with the pattern that you just posted, Spaghetti. Thank you again.
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Hospitals need them to give to infected people to reduce the spread of droplets. They'll be monitored and changed regularly and treated properly as hazardous waste after use.
This is what my community says about disposing of masks, tissues etc.

In private households, waste such as masks, handkerchiefs, hygiene articles and paper towels should be collected in small plastic bags ("hygiene bags") immediately after use. These small plastic bags are knotted without compressing them and put into the normal rubbish bag. ... This means that potentially infectious material is double packed and cannot fall out.


So if you do make masks - that's how my community recommends disposal.
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Yes, the CDC is now beginning to advise people to wear homemade masks and even says on its website that people should consider making and wearing homemade masks.
No, they're not. The CDC website is quite clear.

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If you are sick: You should wear a facemask when you are around other people (e.g., sharing a room or vehicle) and before you enter a healthcare provider’s office. If you are not able to wear a facemask (for example, because it causes trouble breathing), then you should do your best to cover your coughs and sneezes, and people who are caring for you should wear a facemask if they enter your room. Learn what to do if you are sick.

If you are NOT sick: You do not need to wear a facemask unless you are caring for someone who is sick (and they are not able to wear a facemask). Facemasks may be in short supply and they should be saved for caregivers.
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