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Stolen bike, police doesn't want to check a reseller

So, few days ago a friend's bike was stolen.
She made a report to the police.
A day later she found someone is selling bike looking exactly like her on Fb marketplace. She reported this to the police.
Police doesn't want to check the seller, saying she doesn't have a proof of ownership.
It's an old bike, she said it was in family for a long time. Bike is modified (handlebar tape etc). She has many pictures of herself and the bike. She showed them to the police.
What are her options? Legal of course.
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Old 17.04.2020, 13:30
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Re: Stollen bike, police doesn't want to check a reseller

Steal it back. But without a frame number the police can do very little...
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Re: Stollen bike, police doesn't want to check a reseller

Contact the seller to arrange to see it. Take a couple of "mates" along and if it's hers just take it. If the seller wants to call the police tell them to go ahead.
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Re: Stollen bike, police doesn't want to check a reseller

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Police doesn't want to check the seller, saying she doesn't have a proof of ownership.
I can't talk for Switzerland but in France it's a classic.
Some bike like Brompton have a serial number on the frame and let you identify the bike without doubt but the police is not interested in doing anything.
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Re: Stollen bike, police doesn't want to check a reseller

I do appreciate your replies, but I don't think she is going to do that.
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Re: Stollen bike, police doesn't want to check a reseller

She can go there, and if it's hers, front it out, make a scene and call the police when the shouting starts.
If she has photos, she has proof.
The seller needs to have proof it's theirs.
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I do appreciate your replies, but I don't think she is going to do that.
Than her best option is to buy another bike.

If she can't proof ownership what does she expect from the police?
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I do appreciate your replies, but I don't think she is going to do that.
Well then you could do it for her/with her?

I had the problem before, I turned up with my frame number in hand and listed the non standard parts I'd installed on the bike telling them it was my bike stolen 2 weeks before. They said they'd bought the bike a few days ago and didn't steal it, I said it's still mine so they should go back to the seller or call the police as I will be cycling it away in a minute. They said "fine, take it".
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Than her best option is to buy another bike.

If she can't proof ownership what does she expect from the police?
Maybe with no frame number it could be difficult. I wouldn't know what to do at that stage.
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Maybe with no frame number it could be difficult. I wouldn't know what to do at that stage.
Proof of special accessories, damage, repair tickets specifying parts like type of tyre etc.. could be a thing, but I wonder if the police wants to spend that amount of time. Insurance also is very simple on such "no receipts, no money"
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Proof of special accessories, damage, repair tickets specifying parts like type of tyre etc.. could be a thing, but I wonder if the police wants to spend that amount of time. Insurance also is very simple on such "no receipts, no money"
Friend had a bike stolen in Bern and found it in the same neighborhood with the people who stole it at their apartment (custom bike, personal belongings in the saddle bag etc.). Went to the police and told them about it in English, with pictures of the bike and himself etc; they told him to go back to Italy and told him that they weren't interested in helping someone who couldn't even speak German.

He came back with his Swiss flat mates, who gave the the police a lecturing about etiquette and xenophobia and then they had the police politely tell him, in English, to simply just take his bike back without worrying.

He and his friends bought one of those lock breaking devices, and took it back.

Simple.
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Re: Stollen bike, police doesn't want to check a reseller

Have your friend inform his / her your insurance and buy a new one.
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Re: Stollen bike, police doesn't want to check a reseller

She should arrange to go see it, then ask to take it for a 'quick test spin' and give a nice big one finger salute as she rolls away.
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Re: Stolen bike, police doesn't want to check a reseller

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So, few days ago a friend's bike was stolen.
She made a report to the police.
A day later she found someone is selling bike looking exactly like her on Fb marketplace. She reported this to the police.
Police doesn't want to check the seller, saying she doesn't have a proof of ownership.
It's an old bike, she said it was in family for a long time. Bike is modified (handlebar tape etc). She has many pictures of herself and the bike. She showed them to the police.
What are her options? Legal of course.
she could buy it back?
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Old 17.04.2020, 16:32
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She should arrange to go see it, then ask to take it for a 'quick test spin' and give a nice big one finger salute as she rolls away.
It's an option. At the moment the talks with the police are still going on, hopefully they will do that.

Otherwise we had an anonymous vote, according to whic they are going to throw me at the seller and others will run away with the bicycle. I am the oldest and most expendable.
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It's an option. At the moment the talks with the police are still going on, hopefully they will do that.

Otherwise we had an anonymous vote, according to whic they are going to throw me at the seller and others will run away with the bicycle. I am the oldest and most expendable.
Don't forget to start coughing.
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Re: Stolen bike, police doesn't want to check a reseller

Rent an apartment next to the reseller. After all, good fences make good neighbours.
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Re: Stolen bike, police doesn't want to check a reseller

Have you considered mentioning this to the local media?
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Have you considered mentioning this to the local media?
My neighbor had his apartment broken into and was stolen stuff worth around 30k. The police didn't want to trace the stolen mobile phone by the IMEI number (the box of the phone was still there, the IMEI was a sticker on the box) because they said most likely the robbers already left the country because of the Schengen borders (total BS if you ask me, but hey).

They simply didn't care at all, they probably know chances of something coming up are slim to none and they have no time to pursue it. Their only recommendation was get reimbursed by the insurance and that's it.

So imagine their interest for a bicycle...
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Re: Stolen bike, police doesn't want to check a reseller

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So, few days ago a friend's bike was stolen.
She made a report to the police.
A day later she found someone is selling bike looking exactly like her on Fb marketplace. She reported this to the police.
Police doesn't want to check the seller, saying she doesn't have a proof of ownership.
It's an old bike, she said it was in family for a long time. Bike is modified (handlebar tape etc). She has many pictures of herself and the bike. She showed them to the police.
What are her options? Legal of course.
If she does not have proof of ownership, ie the serial number, reciept etc, then None. And the police are correct, they can't go around questioning the seller, on the basis of something as flimsy as this.
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