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I love cows, especially the tan coloured ones with the big fluffy ears. I'm fascinated by the way cows all sit down in a field and have a conversation, like a group of aunties I love tan coloured cows when I'm in Scotland as well.
Lol, was thinking the same. They're lovely animals. I love sheep and goats too.(even the scapegoats lol)

We (me and family) are passing by a senior-home that somehow managed to bring sheep to mow their grass - TIS - and we always stop by and feed these incredibly kind animals. Although they have a field of grass at their feet, it seems that what we give them is tastier. We part ways with some sort of regret.

I wonder if they sense kindness. I think they're better at that than humans.

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Mother cows with calves are the most aggressive (besides the bulls, of course).
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Mother cows with calves are the most aggressive (besides the bulls, of course).
They learned.
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Cows wailing must be the most pitiful sound I have ever heard.
Camping in a wonderful DOC campsite, deserted beach; beautiful except for this dreadful wailing which stops then one cow starts and is quickly joined in the chorus and so on for hours. Asked the farmer in the morning, beef herd, it was the mother cows having had their children taken away from them....... And I still eat meat
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And I still eat meat
In order to keep lactating (sufficiently) a milk cow needs to calve every year. In that regard they're the same as humans: no baby no milk. Pregnancy lasts 9 months as well.

This is what the life of a calf/milk cow looks like around here. I may be off by a month or two in any given detail but the overall picture should still hold:
- M0 (month zero) the calv is calved
- M6 the male calves get slaughtered. The bulls have 2 legs nowadays.
- M12 (month 12) 2/3 of the female calves get slaughtered. M12 is the maximum age for calf meat, it's beef afterwards.
- M15(up to M23, the younger the more milk overall) first insemination (most always artificial)
- M24 first calving
- M24 start milking for sale (IIRC a couple weeks after calving. The calf is fed formula milk afterwards)
- M26 2nd artificial insemination (generally speaking 2 months after 1st calving)
- M34 stop intensive milking (after 305 days of milking). IIRC the surplus milk mustn't be sold even though the cow still needs to be milked, the hormonal changes caused by the upcoming calving render it unusable.
- M36 2nd calving
- M37 restart for-sale milking (after ~60days pause)
- M38 3rd insemination
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- M63 5th insemination
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- M72 5th calving followed by the slaughterhouse.

Oftentimes, cows that calve the 1st time significantly after M24 are slaughtered after the 4th calving already.

An ordinary milk cow produces some 7k liters of milk a year, their typical life is reflected above. However, certain breeds produce up to 10'000 liters a year ("HochLeistungsKuh"), they're usually slaughtered after 2-3 calvings already due to rapidly falling milk production.

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What's the term for a pregnant mammal, the translation of "trächtig"?
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Does the number of cows grow with the number of wines?

We see our happy cows when we walk by them every day. They seem to talk to eachother but not to us. They look better than in other countries.
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