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Travel to France / Italy as lockdown eases

We have a vacation booked for the second half of June, staying in a private holiday home of a friend in a village in Provence. We are both Schengen citizens in our 40's.

As I understood it, the French government will be easing the lockdown over the next weeks, and potentially opening bars and restaurants after 1st June.

We normally drive through Italy on the way down, and had initially planned to spend a night in Liguria on the way down, though this can be avoided.

So, it's a fairly private holiday, we keep ourselves to ourselves, but would like to go to the beach and restaurants and cafes, as well as cooking for ourselves.

Is it still feasible or should we definitely be looking to postpone?
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Old 11.05.2020, 16:01
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Re: Travel to France / Italy as lockdown eases

Italy MAY start to open on June 15th, but I wouldn't bet on it.

I would do Geneva to either Lyon or Annecy, and then down.

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Re: Travel to France / Italy as lockdown eases

I read somewhere , that the france border will open June 08th.

No word about the border to italia......
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Re: Travel to France / Italy as lockdown eases

I think that you might find yourself restricted to your villa, if you are indeed allowed to travel to it. My understanding from last weeks announcement is that travel within the EU is only allowed when absolutely necessary at the moment and that there will be a review at the end of May.

Areas at present in a “green” zone, and that remain “green” for the next 3 weeks may be permitted to open some bars and cafes but that is not guaranteed. Again, a decision will be made at the end of May.

I think you need to really think about it, and check with the owners, they should have a better idea.

The following quotes are from articles in The Connection, an English language paper.

Certain border restrictions with European countries will be maintained until at least June 15,“

“Bars and restaurants

These will remain closed until further notice.”
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Re: Travel to France / Italy as lockdown eases

Does anyone know of a good up to date resource on this topic of what international travel is currently allowed, under what conditions, and when changes are expected? Seems to be a lot of conflicting info out there.
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Re: Travel to France / Italy as lockdown eases

The border to france is not closed, but you will need a very good reason to cross the border.

The border to italy will be open Jun03rd 2020.
The border to austria, france and germany will be open June 15th 2020.

https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/int...1580226297.htm

https://www.travelnews.ch/rail-road/...s-ausland.html
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Does anyone know of a good up to date resource on this topic of what international travel is currently allowed, under what conditions, and when changes are expected? Seems to be a lot of conflicting info out there.

Here in France we are in our first phase of coming out of lockdown. Our 2nd phase starts 2 June. There are LOADS of things that have not been decided yet that will be made clear, (supposedly), by that date. At the moment, you can only go into France if you are a permanent residence of France and are repatriating to your primary home. Cross-border workers can go back and forth. You can also come in if someone in your immediate family is dying or has died. You can also cross the border if there is a situation of moving children from one spouse's house to the other. Until June 2nd, that is it.


Once June 2nd arrives, we will all be made aware of the new travel restrictions. Here are measures that went into effect on 11 May for our first stage coming out of lockdown. Nothing has changed officially since 11 May. Everything else you hear is just speculation.



https://www.lemonde.fr/les-decodeurs...4_4355770.html
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The border to italy will be open Jun03rd 2020.
By the Italians, but it does take two to tango. Unlikely the Swiss will open their borders to Italy before June 15, if then.
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Re: Travel to France / Italy as lockdown eases

Can one freely travel to Constance with no questions asked at the border? Was thinking of going for a swim in the lake there.
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Can one freely travel to Constance with no questions asked at the border? Was thinking of going for a swim in the lake there.
There are still random checks at the border to germany:

You still need a good reason for your trip into germany :

https://www.bundespolizei.de/Web/DE/...00317_faq.html

I would recommend an unattended place at lake constance , like near the fountain at rorschach hafen or near the hotel bad horn to have a swim.
Seen divers going into the lake there.
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Old 22.05.2020, 18:43
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Can one freely travel to Constance with no questions asked at the border? Was thinking of going for a swim in the lake there.
I parked in the car park in Kreuzlingen yesterday evening and walked across the border via the lake next to the arena to Constance centre, had a meal on the lakefront after being asked to fill just my contact details. On the way back I saw only 2 Police persons from the German side casually walking to their van. No stress whatsoever.
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By the Italians, but it does take two to tango. Unlikely the Swiss will open their borders to Italy before June 15, if then.
But these are two different tangos, it would be "one tango" if Switzerland would forbid people to get out of the country. By "border opening" we usually mean "allowing people in", AFAIK none of the two countries forbid people going out for any reason.
IMO it only matters for Italians who want to make a vacation in Italy. Italy will allow Swiss in from 3rd June, when Switzerland will allow Italians in - is unknown.

So on 3rd June OP will be free to travel to Italy, and come back, because (I assume) they have a Swiss permit, which is a valid reason to get into Switzerland.
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Re: Travel to France / Italy as lockdown eases

Will it be the case? If the Swiss Government tells people not to go to Italy as it puts other Swiss at risk on return- they may well act differently. Or enforce 14 day quarantine with heavy fines on return.
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Re: Travel to France / Italy as lockdown eases

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Will it be the case? If the Swiss Government tells people not to go to Italy as it puts other Swiss at risk on return- they may well act differently. Or enforce 14 day quarantine with heavy fines on return.
I thought CH had a pretty big problem per million, worse than Italy.
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Re: Travel to France / Italy as lockdown eases

Personally I wouldn’t go OP, more than likely it’ll be a problem at some point and if not, for those reasons it isn’t going to be that relaxing as intended..
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By the Italians, but it does take two to tango. Unlikely the Swiss will open their borders to Italy before June 15, if then.
Doesn't matter - as a Swiss or permanent resident you are allowed back in any time. It was never forbidden to leave and it definitely was never forbidden to come back - true for most countries btw.

OP I see no reason why you shouldn't go if you want to as long as you're fine with some restrictions in terms of abailable activities.
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Re: Travel to France / Italy as lockdown eases

well the UK is now asking for visitors, including British returnees, to self isolate for 14 days after entering or re-entering the country - with the threat of £1000 fines. No reason why other countries should not decide to do the same.
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Some might, some or even most won’t or only for travellers from certain hotspots, and the UK will probably abandon this fairly quickly if others don’t do the same.
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Re: Travel to France / Italy as lockdown eases

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Will it be the case? If the Swiss Government tells people not to go to Italy as it puts other Swiss at risk on return- they may well act differently. Or enforce 14 day quarantine with heavy fines on return.
As far as I could see, so far it looks like they (Switzerland) are not planning to do it. And they even said that they will be re-allowing shopping-only journeys on 3rd of June.
Some pointers in Italian: https://comozero.it/attualita/svizze...za-quarantena/
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Re: Travel to France / Italy as lockdown eases

In Italy, you are allowed to travel between regions starting from June 3rd.
Italy has announced opening borders starting from June 3rd as well. So you will be able to enter Italy and on the way bad having the residence permit for Switzerland you will be again allowed to enter the country.



If you planned to go stay one night in Ligure, I recommend booking in advance the restaurant. Since they are working with limited posts available. In Liguria, you are able to book a bed on a private beach, and on the public beach, you are allowed to enter, but not to take sun only to swim and walk (These are the latest regulations).







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We have a vacation booked for the second half of June, staying in a private holiday home of a friend in a village in Provence. We are both Schengen citizens in our 40's.

As I understood it, the French government will be easing the lockdown over the next weeks, and potentially opening bars and restaurants after 1st June.

We normally drive through Italy on the way down, and had initially planned to spend a night in Liguria on the way down, though this can be avoided.

So, it's a fairly private holiday, we keep ourselves to ourselves, but would like to go to the beach and restaurants and cafes, as well as cooking for ourselves.

Is it still feasible or should we definitely be looking to postpone?
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