Basel border crossing - Possible to drive into France or Germany this week? -Covid 19 - Page 3

Castro · #41 11.01.2021, 02:15

	Quote:	homesick_alien
	I guess it applies also to collecting stuff from LAS burg..?

Sure, just swap 'SWISS PAKET' for 'LAS Burg'

#42 11.01.2021, 11:06

	Quote:	eairicbloodaxe
	YMMV, but for us there were no restrictions.

I'm not at all surprised. We've crossed over the border here in Morgins quite a few times in the last month, and there has been no evidence of increased vigilance from either Swiss or French customs. Indeed, in all the time we've been here, we've never see French douanes at the border, only once or twice a km or so into France, but never been stopped by them.

Apparently on the first few days of the ski area opening there were police stopping French cars coming over for day-skiing as per the rules they brought in before xmas, but that seems now to have been relaxed (in practice) as well.

karol.k · #43 13.01.2021, 09:52

	Quote:	Castro
	I've just received an email from my PO Box company in Rheinfelden, Germany informing me that they have an exemption for parcel collection, negotiated with the State of Baden Württemberg. If you print and flash this letter you should be allowed in for that expressed purpose without the necessity for quarantine. P.S Only applies to those border cantons listed below

That didn’t last long...

Edit: For those with adblockers - BW authorities clarified their rules - pick-up of packages from LAS Burg/Swiss Paket/etc. not allowed without quarantine.

Castro · #44 13.01.2021, 11:34

	Quote:	karol.k
	That didn’t last long... Edit: For those with adblockers - BW authorities clarified their rules - pick-up of packages from LAS Burg/Swiss Paket/etc. not allowed without quarantine.

Yup, I just got another email from Swiss Paket this morning

	Quote:
	Dear Swiss Paket customers, some news are unfortunately only as current as yesterday's newspaper. Please understand that we do not create the rules for the COVID ordinances, but rather the state of Baden Württemberg and, as you can see, these can change daily. The Ministry for Social Affairs and Integration Baden Württemberg has now, four days after the approval that customers can pick up their parcels, taken them back again. Entry into Germany and collection of the parcels is currently only possible for the following people without having to go into quarantine afterwards: 1. Passing through 2. Cross-border commuters and cross-border commuters 3. People who enter the country for less than 72 hours due to a visit from first-degree relatives or their partner. 4. Commercial movement of goods If you have no way of picking up your parcel yourself or you cannot commission someone to do it, we still have the following options available for you: 1. Storage of your parcels without additional charges 2. Return of your parcels to the sender via GLS (subject to a fee) 3. Shipping your parcels to Switzerland by DHL (subject to a fee) Our branches remain open during normal opening times! You can always find current information on entry or changes to the regulations at www.swiss-paket.ch We thank you for your loyalty and look forward to welcoming you again soon. Your Swiss Paket Team

Imagine · #45 22.01.2021, 00:59

Anyone have experience of crossing the border with Germany on foot? I had hoped to visit a close friend for a walk in Konstanz, and I'd walk over the border to meet her at Bodensee. I don't plan to shop or anything, but I'm now wondering if this might not be possible?

gipfelisturmer · #46 22.01.2021, 10:57

	Quote:	Imagine
	Anyone have experience of crossing the border with Germany on foot? I had hoped to visit a close friend for a walk in Konstanz, and I'd walk over the border to meet her at Bodensee. I don't plan to shop or anything, but I'm now wondering if this might not be possible?

It shouldn't be "allowed", as the friend is not a first relative.
"Possible" for sure, if they don't catch you.

Neko · #47 22.01.2021, 11:22

For those going to France from Monday onwards, you'll need a negative PCR test that's less than three days old. There are exemptions for frontaliers and transport workers.

ipoddle · #48 22.01.2021, 11:28

source ?

https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/co...ce/#sommaire_1

Can I enter France?
1. If you are arriving from a country on the list below (countries in the European space), you can enter Metropolitan France without any COVID-19 restrictions.

European Union Member States, Andorra, the Holy See, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Monaco, Norway, San Marino and Switzerland.

Neko · #49 22.01.2021, 11:34

AFP news agency, from last night's European Council meeting. RTS has the story in French.

JackieH · #50 22.01.2021, 13:40

	Quote:	ipoddle
	source ? https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/co...ce/#sommaire_1 Can I enter France? 1. If you are arriving from a country on the list below (countries in the European space), you can enter Metropolitan France without any COVID-19 restrictions. European Union Member States, Andorra, the Holy See, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Monaco, Norway, San Marino and Switzerland.

No, this has just changed. From Sunday EU and Switzerland will require negative Covid test to cross into France.

catandmouse · #51 22.01.2021, 14:16

I did read somewhere (but can't remember where) that the Covid tests only apply to travellers arriving in France by air, not to those crossing the land border. One supposes that the shops in the border area have successfully campaigned to allow the Swiss to do their shopping in France.

Imagine · #52 22.01.2021, 14:42

	Quote:	gipfelisturmer
	It shouldn't be "allowed", as the friend is not a first relative. "Possible" for sure, if they don't catch you.

Well if I'm being honest, we're more than good friends and could possibly be considered under the 'partners' aspect of cross border allowances, but I guess I'm not too sure on what they define as partners.

We're both working from home and go nowhere other than the shops or out for exercise, so if I'm being honest I think we'd be happy to 'break' the rules if we could be sure we wouldn't be stopped. I know it may seem selfish, but we'd only be going for an hour or two walk along the lake and I do sometimes think that people see the idea of people bending rules as too black and white. But then I also completely understand the problem with allowing people to interpret rules in their own way, as we are notoriously bad at doing that. Good old cognitive dissonance

ed209 · #53 22.01.2021, 14:53

https://www.francetvinfo.fr/sante/ma...s_4267779.html

No tests for car or train voyages.
I also heard the same on the France Bleau news at 1100.

JackieH · #54 22.01.2021, 14:55

Swiss friends are moving to France on Thursday and have been told by the French authorities this morning that they must have a test 72 hrs max before. So seems to be a lot of confusion around- hopefully will be absolutely clear soon. Going shopping in France this PM, if someone is at either border, will ask for clarification.

Castro · #55 22.01.2021, 14:57

	Quote:	ed209
	https://www.francetvinfo.fr/sante/ma...s_4267779.html No tests for car or train voyages. I also heard the same on the France Bleau news at 1100.

It would only make sense if the R number in France was substantially lower than its neighbours.

Belgianmum · #56 22.01.2021, 14:59

	Quote:	ed209
	https://www.francetvinfo.fr/sante/ma...s_4267779.html No tests for car or train voyages. I also heard the same on the France Bleau news at 1100.

It seems pretty pointless in that case, most people will be arriving in France either by car, coach or train.