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I have a feeling the difference will also not be just in biochemical impact but the consciousness of it. The consciousness of the whole trouble. With some patients it really boils down to more consciousness, more control and hence improvement. I've read really interesting studies on placebo effect. More consciousness, less placebo effect (the mind was aware of the fakeness, illusion or however one calls it). It was, interestingly enough, tied to one's level of intellect and perceptiveness of reality.
Being more conscious, mind aware or whatever you want to call it, doesn't help if part of your brain isn't working properly - be that chemical imbalances or physical structures within the brain.

From NotSwissEnough's article:
"Imaging studies have revealed that certain brain areas differ in size between depressed and mentally healthy individuals. For example, the amygdala, which responds to the emotional significance of events, tends to be smaller in depressed people than in those without the disorder...studies have revealed that the amygdala, hypothalamus and anterior cingulate cortex are often less active in depressed people."

Doctors might be able to mess with neurotransmitters with anti-depressant drugs, but it's not as easy to deal with brain structures, particularly the size of them.

I think it's oversimplifying to say that if one is intelligent and self-aware they're less likely to be depressed. Mind over matter may play a part (placebo effect is real after all) but it's not ALL of it.
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Yes, which is why I had no help and support for first one- young foreign woman, in foreign country - no family at all. OH's mother was recently widowed and had turned into a wild 'teenager' with a younger BF ... and when knowing the due date said 'bye- off to Greece for a couple of months- see you when I get back ... and that was it. Auntie Betty was of course no aunt of mine, just a wonderful next door neighbour with a teenage daughter who loved babies (became nanny to big stars in London later)...That balance is hard - for sure.

And of course I have been the mother and grandmother- walking on eggs, damned either way- but we also became so close and that bond is amazingly strong. x I wonder if I will become a great grand-mother- grandson is 14 and grand-daughter 11- so hope so.
Well I wonder if this PND is something which belongs to western civilization. In places like India the women seem to have children and then get on with living. No trauma.
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... In places like India the women seem to have children and then get on with living. No trauma.
If it is as you write, then perhaps "seem to" is the operative phrase in your sentence.

For example:
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The prevalence of postpartum depression (PPD) is 6%–13% in high-income nations, but it is highly variable in non-Western countries due to variations in methodology and its manifestations across cultures.[2] In India, the prevalence of PPD varies from 11% to 16%,[3] whereas in a recent study in Bangladesh, the prevalence was 39%.[4]
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Well I wonder if this PND is something which belongs to western civilization. In places like India the women seem to have children and then get on with living. No trauma.

Interesting that this response was to my post. I personally never suffered from PND- yes, it was very hard, and confusing at times- some ups and downs ... but somehow we all survived. In the 70s though- you either swam, or sunk, big time. The only 2 women I knew who had DND had children taken into care or to family, and spent quite some time in psychiatric hospital on Electric Shock Therapy.

It is a very interesting discussion. With depression, of any kind- I have always wondered which part circumstances, in particular personal loss, isolation, poverty, loss of power and independence as a wife and mother, and personal history, etc, etc, played a rôle- combining often with other factors like hormonal/chemical inbalance.
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Re: Lockdown and Post Natal Depression

People suffering from depression are often
  • subjected to happytalk from others around them, who are mostly well-intended, but do not understand depression well enough to know that pseudo-encouragement not only does not help, then, but is counter-productive
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  • accused of not wanting to help themselves and are reproached for not taking responsibility for getting better and getting back to work. This is cruel.

It seems to me that a mother (or father!) who falls into a depression after birth, is somehow doubly vulnerable to these wannabe motivators.

Not only are they're "supposed" to be delighted by their new baby (and oh, great is the blessing for those parents who do feel that delight), they also really do have the work that it takes to look after that new baby. In both theses aspects, it matters so much more quickly and detrimentally, when compared to a non-new-parent, if they spend a day on the couch, ignoring everyone.
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If it is as you write, then perhaps "seem to" is the operative phrase in your sentence.

For example:
http://www.jpgmonline.com/article.as...;aulast=Bhatia
The prevalence of postpartum depression (PPD) is 6%–13% in high-income nations, but it is highly variable in non-Western countries due to variations in methodology and its manifestations across cultures.[2] In India, the prevalence of PPD varies from 11% to 16%,[3] whereas in a recent study in Bangladesh, the prevalence was 39%.[4]
On the other hand, it does seem that women in poorer countries pull themselves up faster after giving birth. On average. Exactly, methodology may vary. Or there's a strong correlation between poverty and incidence of PPD.


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Yes, which is why I had no help and support for first one- young foreign woman, in foreign country - no family at all. OH's mother was recently widowed and had turned into a wild 'teenager' with a younger BF ... and when knowing the due date said 'bye- off to Greece for a couple of months- see you when I get back ... and that was it. Auntie Betty was of course no aunt of mine, just a wonderful next door neighbour with a teenage daughter who loved babies (became nanny to big stars in London later)...That balance is hard - for sure.

And of course I have been the mother and grandmother- walking on eggs, damned either way- but we also became so close and that bond is amazingly strong. x I wonder if I will become a great grand-mother- grandson is 14 and grand-daughter 11- so hope so.
I have noticed that many couples have a very clear delimitation of roles. Your OH could have helped you too.

That's why I say it again - help that brings more stress than bonding (mom, aunt etc), no thanks. I think a couple can bond much better when there's just the two of them and the new baby.
Again, my opinion. And being foreign is most of the time neither here nor there. Each situation is unique.
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I have noticed that many couples have a very clear delimitation of roles. Your OH could have helped you too.

That's why I say it again - help that brings more stress than bonding (mom, aunt etc), no thanks. I think a couple can bond much better when there's just the two of them and the new baby.
Again, my opinion. And being foreign is most of the time neither here nor there. Each situation is unique.
Oh greenmount - how could he have helped more? He was indeed working less than the 140 hrs he worked for the last 3 years in London- as an SHO he was still working about 100, including nights and week-ends. This was not about gender roles- at all.

Of course each situation is unique. But being 'foreign' - meaning no local friends or family (we had only shortly moved to the West Midlands), meaning culture and the way of doing things being different and possibly making one more insecure- does play a part too, I am sure.

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Oh greenmount - how could he have helped more? He was indeed working less than the 140 hrs he worked for the last 3 years in London- as an SHO he was still working about 100, including nights and week-ends. This was not about gender roles- at all.

Of course each situation is unique. But being 'foreign' - meaning no local friends or family (we had only shortly moved to the West Midlands), meaning culture and the way of doing things being different and possibly making one more insecure- does play a part too, I am sure.
Sorry, Odile, I didn't want to pry. I should have put it less....personally. I recall your OH's profession, I know it requires a lot of sacrifices, even more back then...S-i-l is in the same position, not so tough as your OH had it because there are different times (not during corona....sadly) but while she's all day long working at hospital and then to private clinics my brother is the primary carer. I can't call him soccer mom, he's tennis dad.

My point is that even in our time and day I have seen this approach. Less and less, but still. And the legislation re. paternity leave and the way some employers see the fathers' involvement has changed. For sure. There are not so many objective reasons as before, unless both spouses have agreed to prioritise one's career for a specific period. (we sort of did it too for a while)

You did whatever made sense for your family back then and it was better in the long run. Plus a long marriage like yours is something to be very proud of. Apologises again, didn't want to make you feel uncomfortable.
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I think it's oversimplifying to say that if one is intelligent and self-aware they're less likely to be depressed.
I am glad that nobody said that.
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Well I wonder if this PND is something which belongs to western civilization. In places like India the women seem to have children and then get on with living. No trauma.

How would you know. I imagine it's likely trauma upon trauma.

And PND is not necessarily trauma related. In fact PN PTSD is a very different thing.

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It is a very interesting discussion. With depression, of any kind- I have always wondered which part circumstances, in particular personal loss, isolation, poverty, loss of power and independence as a wife and mother, and personal history, etc, etc, played a rôle- combining often with other factors like hormonal/chemical inbalance.
I imagine everything plays a part but it's brain chemistry too.

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People suffering from depression are often
  • subjected to happytalk from others around them, who are mostly well-intended, but do not understand depression well enough to know that pseudo-encouragement not only does not help, then, but is counter-productive
and sometimes
  • accused of not wanting to help themselves and are reproached for not taking responsibility for getting better and getting back to work. This is cruel.

It seems to me that a mother (or father!) who falls into a depression after birth, is somehow doubly vulnerable to these wannabe motivators.

Not only are they're "supposed" to be delighted by their new baby (and oh, great is the blessing for those parents who do feel that delight), they also really do have the work that it takes to look after that new baby. In both theses aspects, it matters so much more quickly and detrimentally, when compared to a non-new-parent, if they spend a day on the couch, ignoring everyone.
Yep. Unreal societal expectation and pressure usually from folk who have never done tge equivalent of expel an orange from their nostril (or the infamous "human out of clacker" SG comment) or endured major stomach surgery whilst exhausted, terrified and awake.

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I am glad that nobody said that.

That's exactly what you said. If you meant something else then perhaps clarify your previous comment.
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I have a feeling the difference will also not be just in biochemical impact but the consciousness of it. The consciousness of the whole trouble. With some patients it really boils down to more consciousness, more control and hence improvement. I've read really interesting studies on placebo effect. More consciousness, less placebo effect (the mind was aware of the fakeness, illusion or however one calls it). It was, interestingly enough, tied to one's level of intellect and perceptiveness of reality.

Sorry, but I had to go back and look- as you got me confused here. And I know, you will call it a 'campaign' and use that as an excuse, again, for not replying. But this is exactly what you said.
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Sorry, but I had to go back and look- as you got me confused here. And I know, you will call it a 'campaign' and use that as an excuse, again, for not replying. But this is exactly what you said.
I had to do the same thing.

As someone working really hard to maintain my PN PTSD recovery, I know MC is entirely wrong. And also frigging insulting. But I imagine that was the point.
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Sorry, but I had to go back and look- as you got me confused here. And I know, you will call it a 'campaign' and use that as an excuse, again, for not replying. But this is exactly what you said.
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I had to do the same thing.

As someone working really hard to maintain my PN PTSD recovery, I know MC is entirely wrong. And also frigging insulting. But I imagine that was the point.
That makes three of us.

Maybe she doesn’t think that that’s what she said but she would be wrong in that thinking.
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If someone's depression is not due to their brain not producing enough serotonin, then it would make sense that an SSRI might not work for them (SSRI's are the most commonly prescribed form of antidepressants). Also, there is a potential side-effect of anti-depressants that causes the brain to not produce enough dopamine (because the more serotonin your brain produces, the more dopamine it cannot produce, and vice-versa), and low dopamine can also cause depression.

But the fact is, anti-depressants do also help a lot of people. My best friend's husband was recently suicidal and couldn't sleep, and this went on for almost two months, and then he was finally put on an anti-depressant and now feels completely fine because of it.

But the original thing you were arguing is that brain chemistry cannot play a role in depression, and I'm sorry, but that makes absolutely no sense.
The issue is that a "theory" that is little more than hypothesis is being touted as as a fact in marketing of something that has such a multi-factorial cause that psychiatrists are arguing they never said it was a cause in the first place. Yes, it's a tongue twister. I think what you're arguing has to do with fault, and arguing if depression is anyone's fault is just not helpful to anyone involved. This is not an issue of morality. It's about people feeling depressed.

The argument about SSRIs working are not about individual cases working. The arguments have to do with on balance, such as in the Kirsch meta-analysis, the number of people benefiting and the number of people feeling worse is about the same. If there's no predictability, it's not so predictable.

The fact of the matter is that SSRIs are serious drugs and the risk of suicide increases when someone starts taking them, along with other side-effects. The increased risk might be worth it to one person, and not to another. That's what informed consent is about.

Framing depression as something not in your control is somewhat useless and promotes SSRI-use despite the whole point of informed consent. You have the ability to see a therapist, a doctor, enter an in-patient treatment centre, a rehab centre, and screen for any other underlying issues that may be causing the depression in the first place. On the grand scheme of things, the chances any anti-depressant will work is about even.
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The fact of the matter is that SSRIs are serious drugs and the risk of suicide increases when someone starts taking them, along with other side-effects. The increased risk might be worth it to one person, and not to another. That's what informed consent is about.
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You might be onto something here - re. the risk of suicide. I lost someone close to depression but I wouldn't put it on antidepressants, although I do think they messed up his brain. I also think other factors played a role. Depression is a very complex disease. Anyway, the subject became way too painful, back then my grief period was a depression in itself.

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Framing depression as something not in your control is somewhat useless and promotes SSRI-use despite the whole point of informed consent. You have the ability to see a therapist, a doctor, enter an in-patient treatment centre, a rehab centre, and screen for any other underlying issues that may be causing the depression in the first place. On the grand scheme of things, the chances any anti-depressant will work is about even.
I think one has to combine these things - the right anti-depressant and right cognitive therapies etc.

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I think it's oversimplifying to say that if one is intelligent and self-aware they're less likely to be depressed. Mind over matter may play a part (placebo effect is real after all) but it's not ALL of it.
Absolutely. I don't even know where to start. Btw, I have no idea if MC actually said this or quoted another study. I don't address MC's post, just yours. What you wrote makes perfect sense.

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You might be onto something here - re. the risk of suicide. I lost someone close to depression but I wouldn't put it on antidepressants, although I do think they messed up his brain. I also think other factors played a role. Depression is a very complex disease. Anyway, the subject became way too painful, back then my grief period was a depression in itself.
It's not a pet theory, I've been reading it in the news and science publications since 2012? First the research was pointing towards a risk in teens, then also young adults, and now it's for everyone.

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/sci-tec...finds/45055786

This one is the controversy over whether or not increased aggressiveness can result in addition to increased risk of suicide.
https://www.bmj.com/content/358/bmj.j3697/rr-4
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It's not a pet theory, I've been reading it in the news and science publications since 2012? First the research was pointing towards a risk in teens, then also young adults, and now it's for everyone.

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/sci-tec...finds/45055786

This one is the controversy over whether or not increased aggressiveness can result in addition to increased risk of suicide.
https://www.bmj.com/content/358/bmj.j3697/rr-4
Thank you for the links, I meant to reply a few days ago. It's written even in the package leaflet supplied with the product. The problem is, imo, that even GPs rush nowadays to prescribe antidepressants. That should be done, imho, only by the specialists. Carefully. Medicine is both art and science. A good doctor knows a lot about pharmacology too. Back home in Romania they have to pass serious chemistry (among other subjects) exams for admission to medical school.
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Thank you for the links, I meant to reply a few days ago. It's written even in the package leaflet supplied with the product. The problem is, imo, that even GPs rush nowadays to prescribe antidepressants. That should be done, imho, only by the specialists. Carefully. Medicine is both art and science. A good doctor knows a lot about pharmacology too. Back home in Romania they have to pass serious chemistry (among other subjects) exams for admission to medical school.
I rarely post private matters but I feel obligated here to do so. Last year I was prescribed anti depressants by a neurologist. I had a full neurological examination. This was one of the doctors in a long list whom I was seen by to diagnose the cause of a wide range of symptoms I was experiencing including depression, sleep disorders, tingling in my fingers and toes, bone pain and difficulty concentrating.

I didn't take the anti depressants, but instead searched for answers. Went to yet another rheumatologist. Earlier in the year I fractrured a rib and after a bone scan was diagosed with osteoporosis. The rheumatologist looked at all of my test results, and was of the opinion that the blood tests warranted further investigation. He ordered more blood tests to look at the irregular calcium, (hpercalcemic)Vitamin D (too low) and PTH (too high)levels. Then I had an ultrasound of my neck and a Spect CT to confirm his diagnosis of a tumour of the parathyroid gland. I had the tumour surgically removed in December.

My tumour was causing most if not all of my problems. The blood tests I had been undergoing for months indicated something was not right. I described my symptoms to each doctor I visited. I didn't need anti depressants. What I needed was a doctor who listened to how I felt and looked for an explanation.
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The blood tests I had been undergoing for months indicated something was not right. I described my symptoms to each doctor I visited. I didn't need anti depressants. What I needed was a doctor who listened to how I felt and looked for an explanation.
Your GP should have done more in this case. Asking for more blood tests, scans etc. Were you recommended to the neurologist by the GP?

I am glad all is well for you. Good for you that you stood up for yourself. It looks like you were misdiagnosed with depression.

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I've known several cases where depression was the first diagnosis, and it turned out to be a tumour. Of course, most diagnoses of depression are depression, so no-one panic - but it is something to bear in mind.
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