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Old 16.03.2021, 18:33
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Switzerland will do what Germany does. Germany hasnít decided to do anything. They might not even think about it for a few years, decades or millennium.

Despite all the rationale for changing CH will not before DE. With a bit of luck FR and IT will follow DE. But even if they donít CH will do what DE does.
But they will deny it to the max and will spend at least the next decade discussing it just to prove it ain't so.
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Old 16.03.2021, 18:38
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Re: Clock change 2021

Instead of changing it twice a year, let's adjust it daily to smooth things out
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Old 16.03.2021, 18:55
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Instead of changing it twice a year, let's adjust it daily to smooth things out
20 seconds a day sounds good to me!

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Re: Clock change 2021

Just got tripped up myself, forgot about the US having already changed and showed up an hour late to a (thankfully voluntary) meeting at a university over there. At least the professors knew why I was joining the Zoom call exactly an hour late, right as they were saying goodbye to everyone
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Old 16.03.2021, 19:51
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Switzerland will do what Germany does. Germany hasnít decided to do anything. They might not even think about it for a few years, decades or millennium.

Despite all the rationale for changing CH will not before DE. With a bit of luck FR and IT will follow DE. But even if they donít CH will do what DE does.
Considering the big commuting partners in Geneva, Neuch‚tel, and Alsace-Basel, it would make more sense to follow the French than the Germans, but I'm sure those two will coordinate.
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Considering the big commuting partners in Geneva, Neuch‚tel, and Alsace-Basel, it would make more sense to follow the French than the Germans, but I'm sure those two will coordinate.
No, CH will do what DE does. If we were to shift an hour with a neighbour, it isn’t going to be with Germany. The Swiss Romande and Italy make up a third of the population and only 27% of the Cantons.
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Old 16.03.2021, 21:01
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Re: Clock change 2021

It would be nice to go to winter time on 1st January at 00:30. Then we would have New Year twice
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Old 16.03.2021, 21:19
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No, CH will do what DE does. If we were to shift an hour with a neighbour, it isn’t going to be with Germany. The Swiss Romande and Italy make up a third of the population and only 27% of the Cantons.
The longest Swiss border is with Italy, so Italy makes the most sense.

Total land borders:
1,852 km (1,151 mi)
Italy: 734.2 km (456 mi)
France: 571.8 km (355 mi)
Germany: 345.7 km (214 mi)
Austria: 165.1 km (102 mi)
Liechtenstein: 41.1 km (25 mi)

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Old 16.03.2021, 21:30
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I'll be leaping for joy the day I don't have to adjust that dam oven clock anymore.
I'll be a bit peeved actually, now that I can finally without digging out the manual I wanna enjoy it a few times more often.

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No, CH will do what DE does. If we were to shift an hour with a neighbour, it isnít going to be with Germany. The Swiss Romande and Italy make up a third of the population and only 27% of the Cantons.
Oh, I can hear the anger of the minority.

We'll hand the matter over to the cantons and if they are really adventurous, they will not go with the country closest to them.

<<Liechtenstein: 41.1 km (25 mi)>>
But Liechtenstein will go with Switzerland. They don't want our army to be an hour late in case of war. Or early

I was actually hoping to find the changing date for 2021 here. I have to google it myself???
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Old 16.03.2021, 21:37
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I was actually hoping to find the changing date for 2021 here. I have to google it myself???
Always the last Sunday in March, so 28th March this year.
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Start the initiative!
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Old 16.03.2021, 22:12
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Always the last Sunday in March, so 28th March this year.
Thanks. What a weird birthday present.

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Start the initiative!
Guess that's what will happen: We will vote. But not before one or two countries around us have changed.
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Old 16.03.2021, 23:05
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No, CH will do what DE does. If we were to shift an hour with a neighbour, it isnít going to be with Germany. The Swiss Romande and Italy make up a third of the population and only 27% of the Cantons.
it's pure guess, anyway expect all EU countries to follow the same decision so the debate is pointless.
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Old 17.03.2021, 00:27
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Old 20.03.2021, 18:33
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each country should have it's own timzone - and CH even be given 26 splits in their own timezone - so we can have one per canton and we could vote which one - full hour being most expensive for ZH or GVA to take. Bern get's assigned last 60seconds as they are always late anyway !

and honestly I thought we moved on from coal and that being the reason for time-changes - sounds we still in it ...'god shave the queen ...'
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each country should have it's own timzone - and CH even be given 26 splits in their own timezone - so we can have one per canton and we could vote which one - full hour being most expensive for ZH or GVA to take. Bern get's assigned last 60seconds as they are always late anyway !

and honestly I thought we moved on from coal and that being the reason for time-changes - sounds we still in it ...'god shave the queen ...'
Actually it was the railroads that pushed for standard time. Prior to that 12 noon in London was not 12 noon in Bristol. This made it impossible to publish a timetable. And everybodyís pocket watches were wrong.
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each country should have it's own timzone - and CH even be given 26 splits in their own timezone - so we can have one per canton and we could vote which one - full hour being most expensive for ZH or GVA to take. Bern get's assigned last 60seconds as they are always late anyway !

and honestly I thought we moved on from coal and that being the reason for time-changes - sounds we still in it ...'god shave the queen ...'
Coal (the need to conserve it) was the reason for double summer time in the UK during WWII. My mother remembered playing tennis in twilight at midnight in St Andrews, Scotland in the 1940s.

The motivation for summer time, promoted in the UK by a builder called William Willett, was to improve the quality of life in summer without detracting from the quality of life in winter. That rationale hasn't changed since. Removing summer time, or switching to permanent winter time, would adversely affect QoL in summer.
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I could go on, but sure, we don't have to change anything because you have the time, ability and willingness to spend 3+ days to steadily ease yourself in and adapt
FYI, I have argued on a scientific basis a few years back and let's say it wasn't well received - some people seem to value their perceived experiences as more important than the current scientific evidence, which points towards adapting permanent standard time (aka "wintertime").
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Old 21.03.2021, 08:32
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I want permanent summer time!

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Old 21.03.2021, 10:21
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Re: Clock change 2021

I already start preparing myself mentally for summertime week in advance. Doing cardio in front of the big clock every morning an hour earlier
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