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Castro 10.06.2020 12:33

UK - New travel quarantine rules
 
This topic has been discussed around the different threads but probably deserves its own thread to help those of us who plan to travel there in the coming months. Please feel free to share your recent experiences.

There are still questions to my mind which the government website does not answer e.g. what if you need to leave before the 14 days to return home? Logically this should be OK if travelling to the airport is not deemed to be a breach of quarantine :msnsarcastic:

I am perfectly happy to isolate at my parents for a week but I can't afford to be off any longer.

Jim2007 10.06.2020 16:33

Re: UK - New travel quarantine rules
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Castro (Post 3189646)
I am perfectly happy to isolate at my parents for a week but I can't afford to be off any longer.

But if you are isolating at your parents, who would that work - a completely separate apartment or house? Otherwise you'd expose them or they'd have to isolate as well....

Also this idea that if you are travelling on to another CTA country directly you don't have to isolate until you reach your final destination... what about all the people you meet along the way that will not be isolating... an internal fight, train, boat...

Castro 10.06.2020 17:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim2007 (Post 3189735)
But if you are isolating at your parents, who would that work - a completely separate apartment or house? Otherwise you'd expose them or they'd have to isolate as well....

Work? its not meant to work, its just political theatre :rolleyes:

AbFab 10.06.2020 17:54

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Seems daft but...

If you give an address where you are quarantining and they check and you're not there, the fine is £1000.

But if you refuse to give an address in the UK , the fine is £100. But they won't know where you are.

What an embarrassing mess----

Cata1yst 10.06.2020 18:08

Re: UK - New travel quarantine rules
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AbFab (Post 3189781)
Seems daft but...

If you give an address where you are quarantining and they check and you're not there, the fine is £1000.

But if you refuse to give an address in the UK , the fine is £100. But they won't know where you are.

What an embarrassing mesh----


Just sign the form as :)

Dominic Cummings, North Lodge, Darlington Road, Durham, DH1 3SU.

Cherub 10.06.2020 18:15

Re: UK - New travel quarantine rules
 
I'm watching how things are going to pan out at the moment. I was supposed to be back in Scotland this week due to the subsidence issues with my house back there, but we transferred the flights to mid September when we really have to try to get back for 2 weeks. We're being put under pressure by The Coal Authority to sign off remedial work on our house and have been told if we can't do it then we will have to pay for a surveyor to do it for us. Our Solicitor is outraged as they are not taking into consideration our travel issues (the Authority also did a confidential out of court deal with the developer which looks like the 36 owners affected won't be able to sue him for compensation, none of our solicitors were informed of this. So typical of anything connected to the UK Government). He also says it's our right as owners to be able to inspect ourselves as there's a lot we're not happy about and he needs a face to face meeting with us.

We've had to suffer over 4 years of this sh1t and the pandemic was just the icing on the cake. I had thought I'd have my house let out by autumn, looks like next summer now. Unfortunately I can't sell as agents have told us our properties currently have zero value.
Best bit is, the developer bought an affected house in a street behind us off a lady who was desperate to move out. The Coal Authority are paying for him to have it done up so he can rent it and have halted all works on 3 affected flats next door to it so his tradesmen can work on the renovation!

2 houses had to be demolished as they were so dangerous, one was my sister's and I wish the other one had been mines tbh.

CodPeace 10.06.2020 18:30

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It will not be enforced, I would not worry about it.
The Govt. is pushing self responsibility to do the right thing.

The police won't check up, they don't have the resources.

bowlie 10.06.2020 19:16

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Hey, If Dominic Cummings wonít follow the rules, why should honest Swiss residents.

Thatís what I would tell any judge that was trying to fine me.

Spinal 10.06.2020 19:50

UK Quarantine: Short Trips?
 
Tried finding this online, but without much luck...

Does anyone know what the rules for the trips to the UK under 14-days?

i.e. I need to head to the UK, pack up a house and get it ready for the next tenant ,and then head back. I'm fairly confident I can do the lot while interacting with only the people at the airport and two taxi drivers. (mainly to minimise the risk to myself). I would stay at the property, so that part is easy, and would wear a full face NBC mask on the planes.

That said, does that mean I need to stay IN the UK for 14 days before I can fly back to CH?

There seem to be exceptions for people that travel weekly...
eople who live in the UK but work in another country and travel between the UK and country of work at least once a week
You’ll need to complete the Public Health passenger locator form before you travel to the UK.

You will not need to self-isolate for 14 days if you are staying in England, Wales or Northern Ireland. You’ll need to self-isolate for 14 days if you are staying in Scotland.

You’ll need to show evidence that you reside in one country but work in the other and you should also be able to demonstrate that you travel between the two on a minimum of a weekly basis, for example, a season ticket.

People who live outside the UK but work in the UK and travel between their country of residence and the UK at least once a week
You’ll need to complete the Public Health passenger locator form before you travel to the UK.

You will not need to self-isolate for 14 days if you are staying in England, Wales or Northern Ireland. You’ll need to self-isolate for 14 days if you are staying in Scotland.

You’ll need to show evidence that you reside in one country but work in the other and you should also be able to demonstrate that you travel between the two on a minimum of a weekly basis, for example, a season ticket.

roegner 10.06.2020 19:57

Re: UK Quarantine: Short Trips?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spinal (Post 3189829)
Tried finding this online, but without much luck...

Does anyone know what the rules for the trips to the UK under 14-days?

i.e. I need to head to the UK, pack up a house and get it ready for the next tenant ,and then head back. I'm fairly confident I can do the lot while interacting with only the people at the airport and two taxi drivers. (mainly to minimise the risk to myself). I would stay at the property, so that part is easy, and would wear a full face NBC mask on the planes.

That said, does that mean I need to stay IN the UK for 14 days before I can fly back to CH?

There seem to be exceptions for people that travel weekly...
eople who live in the UK but work in another country and travel between the UK and country of work at least once a week
Youíll need to complete the Public Health passenger locator form before you travel to the UK.

You will not need to self-isolate for 14 days if you are staying in England, Wales or Northern Ireland. Youíll need to self-isolate for 14 days if you are staying in Scotland.

Youíll need to show evidence that you reside in one country but work in the other and you should also be able to demonstrate that you travel between the two on a minimum of a weekly basis, for example, a season ticket.

People who live outside the UK but work in the UK and travel between their country of residence and the UK at least once a week
Youíll need to complete the Public Health passenger locator form before you travel to the UK.

You will not need to self-isolate for 14 days if you are staying in England, Wales or Northern Ireland. Youíll need to self-isolate for 14 days if you are staying in Scotland.

Youíll need to show evidence that you reside in one country but work in the other and you should also be able to demonstrate that you travel between the two on a minimum of a weekly basis, for example, a season ticket.

14 days quarantine it says but no idea how they want to check that.

The commuter rule for sure does not apply to pack a house.

Cherub 10.06.2020 20:41

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We could self isolate at our house in Scotland as it has enough furniture etc as we need when we're there, we have clothes and my sis would shop for us. Getting there would be a problem though as I gather you're not permitted to travel on public transport and it's a bus then a train journey to Fife from Edinburgh. I don't know if car hire is allowed. However, it would be a problem for my OH if he had to self isolate again on returning to Switzerland because of his current work project :(

TBH does anyone in the UK Government actually know what they're doing because from where I'm sitting it's been a complete balls up from the start.

Castro 11.06.2020 00:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherub (Post 3189847)
TBH does anyone in the UK Government actually know what they're doing because from where I'm sitting it's been a complete balls up from the start.

They do know what theyíre doing, but itís not in the publicís best interests. The most obvious proof is that there is a solution which the Austrian government have already implemented. A paid-for COVID test at the airport which allows you to skip quarantine if youíre all clear. Simple, effective, transparent and science-based.

Why hasnít the British government explained why this is not an option, or even quarantine until you can produce a test certificate if waiting a couple of hours at Heathrow is too much trouble?

Jim2007 11.06.2020 04:17

Re: UK - New travel quarantine rules
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AbFab (Post 3189781)
If you give an address where you are quarantining and they check and you're not there, the fine is £1000.

I have not been paying too much attention, but it seems Ireland is Ä2,500 and or 6 months in prison.

But the idea that you are exempt if you are transiting to another jurisdiction just blows the thing apart since there is no internal tracking in any case.

Jim2007 11.06.2020 04:42

Re: UK - New travel quarantine rules
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Castro (Post 3189885)
Why hasnít the British government explained why this is not an option, or even quarantine until you can produce a test certificate if waiting a couple of hours at Heathrow is too much trouble?

Itís not much use though if Ireland and the Crown Dependencies are not on board, which of course would highlight the BREXIT Britain does not have full control over its boarders after all....

KiwiSteve 11.06.2020 08:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim2007 (Post 3189895)
Itís not much use though if Ireland and the Crown Dependencies are not on board, which of course would highlight the BREXIT Britain does not have full control over its boarders after all....

This is Britain before Brexit is even fully implemented and leaves the transition period, after which the only way is going downnnnnn.

Unless you have your money off-shore:rolleyes:

rosiero 17.06.2020 11:28

Re: UK - New travel quarantine rules
 
Hi all.

I posed the same question on 27th May (can I leave the UK within two weeks, i.e. if i just go for 3 days) on the British Embassy in Switzerland official facebook page. They confirmed it IS allowed. See below:

Thanks for getting in touch. As you know, from 8 June, there will be new rules in place for entering the UK. You will not be allowed to leave the place youíre staying for the first 14 days youíre in the UK except in very limited situations. However, if you are leaving within 14 days, you can end self-isolation to go to the port youíll leave the UK from. The government advises British nationals against all but essential international travel at the moment. For the latest public health measures in the UK, please check the guidance on gov.uk: https://www.gov.uk/coronavirus

Landers 17.06.2020 17:18

Re: UK - New travel quarantine rules
 
If you don't give an address in oder to pay the smaller fine then this in theory only works for British nationals. Otherwise you'll likely be excluded entry.
From the website it seems like you'd be additionally fined if you go this route.

You're allowed to stay with people but I agree it makes no sense.


From gov.uk : "If you are travelling to the UK for less than 14 days, you will be expected to self-isolate for the length of your stay."

swissfi 18.06.2020 17:30

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Hi,


I just wondered if anyone has travelled to the UK since the quarantine was imposed on June 8th. If yes, were you contacted by phone or in person to check you were isolating?



We are due to fly back next Friday for 3 weeks and are very much hoping the quarantine will be lifted in the near future.

bytheseaside 25.06.2020 18:57

Re: UK - New travel quarantine rules
 
This needs a bump. Has anyone flown to the UK recently and can confirm if the 14 day quarantine is being rigorously enforced? Unfortunately, Switzerland is not being mentioned in the proposed 'air-bridges' that may be effective from next week.

Castro 25.06.2020 20:56

Re: UK - New travel quarantine rules
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bytheseaside (Post 3193988)
This needs a bump. Has anyone flown to the UK recently and can confirm if the 14 day quarantine is being rigorously enforced? Unfortunately, Switzerland is not being mentioned in the proposed 'air-bridges' that may be effective from next week.

France is and as far as I'm concerned I flew out of L'aťroport de B‚le-Mulhouse


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