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If you really fancy Scotland, then go for it.... you have 6 months to make it happen. I wouldn’t rule out London either if you are in finance. Might be easier to get a job there in 6 months, then once you have settled status you can easily head up to Scotland later.
That would be before the snow starts to fall. Or perhaps that would be 4 1/2 months.
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Re: moving to Switzerland from France

I don't think Scotland was a good consideration before Brexit, there's too much going on with the SNP trying to fire up another independence referendum. They use the constant debate about it to detract from the fact the economy and the infrastructure has been tanking for years now, way before coronavirus. It's also an expensive place to live if you are dependent on being in Edinburgh or Glasgow for work. I certainly could not afford to live in Edinburgh when I moved back to Scotland from London back in 2004 and I gave up the job I had there because the commute by train was awful. My local authority back there currently has a £78m deficit
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That's good in many ways then. Otherwise you might have needed written permission from him to be able to move anywhere else.

What sort of job are you hoping to get? If you want French speaking then you could look at Neuchatel and Fribourg cantons as well. They would probably be cheaper than Geneva or Lausanne. Valais canton too might be a possible place to look to move to.

As far as finding a place with kid, dog and cat in tow, well check and double check that your pets would be welcome. Get it written into the rental contract if possible. Cats aren't usually a problem, but dogs are another story sometimes. What breed of dog is it? Some cantons don't allow certain breeds and in Zurich canton you're also required to do some dog training courses if you dog is over a certain height/weight. You'll need to register your dog with the commune/gemeinde and pay a tax. It was also be a good idea to take out some doggy damage insurance as part of your contents/liability insurance.

https://www.englishforum.ch/pet-corn...rocedures.html
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The doggy is a recent rescue from Guadeloupe (our hearts broke when we saw her living by the busy road and she ended up on the plane with us. Sweetest creature ever) , a medium size one, creole they call them (a mix of some bully and something else, she doesn't have the look of the dangerous category though ) so I will need to look into that , yes..
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I don't think Scotland was a good consideration before Brexit, there's too much going on with the SNP trying to fire up another independence referendum. They use the constant debate about it to detract from the fact the economy and the infrastructure has been tanking for years now, way before coronavirus. It's also an expensive place to live if you are dependent on being in Edinburgh or Glasgow for work. I certainly could not afford to live in Edinburgh when I moved back to Scotland from London back in 2004 and I gave up the job I had there because the commute by train was awful. My local authority back there currently has a £78m deficit
We went as far as kid getting accepted into St Maty's Music school in Edinbrugh, as a chorster, with a bursary and all but ... I do have huge doubts about the aftermath of Brexit. Sadly. I think Scotland is an awesome place, I just do not know whats ahead for the EU citizens . Covid didn't help the economy , which makes it all even less attractive in that perspective.
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Thank you very much !
The doggy is a recent rescue from Guadeloupe (our hearts broke when we saw her living by the busy road and she ended up on the plane with us. Sweetest creature ever) , a medium size one, creole they call them (a mix of some bully and something else, she doesn't have the look of the dangerous category though ) so I will need to look into that , yes..
If bull terrier mix, then yes, you need to check carefully because certain breeds and mixes are banned in some cantons. Have a read of this thread for more info.

https://www.englishforum.ch/pet-corn...questions.html

To be honest all economies are not going to be great for some time.
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Re: moving to Switzerland from France

"We went as far as kid getting accepted into St Maty's Music school in Edinbrugh, as a chorster, with a bursary and all"

To have secured a bursary is your income classed as low? The annual fees at St Mary's are pretty astronomical by Scottish standards. I believe you also have to be resident in Scotland for 2 years prior to a child taking a place up.
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"We went as far as kid getting accepted into St Maty's Music school in Edinbrugh, as a chorster, with a bursary and all"

To have secured a bursary is your income classed as low? The annual fees at St Mary's are pretty astronomical by Scottish standards. I believe you also have to be resident in Scotland for 2 years prior to a child taking a place up.
It is the Cathedral bursary (50% off) leaving me with a potential 6,5 K GDP to pay . Still huge sum, to be honest. The other aid is govermental and 1) they needed proff I'll work in UK in September to even consider giving us one and 2) I asked for future reference if I would have been eligible given my current income and they said no.

I myself found it quite surprising that in January the bursar told me "you must have lived in the UK for 2 years" , while in reality if tomorrow I was to move and I was "low income" they would have given it to us anyway !

Proves an interesting point that there is what is said and then there is what is done. It was worth the process just to understand this point

What attracts me in the Uk is the potential to get a bursary (and my kid is one of those who really could, objectively I was blessed with a hard working AND gifted kid who loves learnign and making an effort). UK has great education to offer and great music / drama possibilities and also a possibility to get into a super school and pay no fees. This does not exist in Switzerland I do not think, no British school will happily offer her a free place...
It's another point I keep twisting in my mind. If my kid wasn't who she is I wouldn't even consider.

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It is the Cathedral bursary (50% off) leaving me with a potential 6,k GDP to pay .
Sorry 6.5 GBP per annum *
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Re: moving to Switzerland from France

If your child is that gifted music-wise there is also the Conservatoire de Musique in Geneva.

http://www.cmg.ch
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If your child is that gifted music-wise there is also the Conservatoire de Musique in Geneva.

http://www.cmg.ch
Have a look at Chetham’s school of music in Manchester too. Fees are income based and Manchester is a fab city.
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Have a look at Chetham’s school of music in Manchester too. Fees are income based and Manchester is a fab city.
Thank you ! Manchester is, still, th UK..
Brexit and Covid are sure enough not exactly assistants when it come to trying to relocate ...
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Re: moving to Switzerland from France

I know quite a few people that live in neighbouring France, particularly on the Jura side. You (normally) have full access to Geneva and La Côte. Schools apparently are quite good, particularly in the Ferny area.
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I am alone with child (no partner), like I stated above (which is why a "social life" is important - I don't want to stay single all my life .
if social life for you it´s important, I would avoid switzerland....
here people tend to think just at the WORK, WORK, WORK ; they have no time to meet and the lifestyle overall is very isolated.
I have lived here since 3 years and i am starting now to get some friends, needless to say, they are 99 % immigrants as me - swiss people tend to stay with those friends since childhood...

I would recommend switzerland only if you:
- are looking for a well payed job that matches your skills
- job and career for you are very important in life
- you do not fear social isolation or to be alone for a lot of your spare time

Sorry if I sound too negative, but it is just the reality ! Overall I am satisifed of my living in switzerland, but social life is a big manko.
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if social life for you it´s important, I would avoid switzerland....
here people tend to think just at the WORK, WORK, WORK ; they have no time to meet and the lifestyle overall is very isolated.
I have lived here since 3 years and i am starting now to get some friends, needless to say, they are 99 % immigrants as me - swiss people tend to stay with those friends since childhood...

I would recommend switzerland only if you:
- are looking for a well payed job that matches your skills
- job and career for you are very important in life
- you do not fear social isolation or to be alone for a lot of your spare time

Sorry if I sound too negative, but it is just the reality ! Overall I am satisifed of my living in switzerland, but social life is a big manko.
Ι think Zurich is better socially and there are lots of expats there to hang out with.
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Dear all,
I am looking to move from Paris whuere i live with my kid who plays piano seriously (daily practices - noise pollution), and most likely will opt for some kind of artistic path in life . Shes ten.
France is not an ideal place for us as mentality doesnt suit me, school education sucks (very long days at school, learnign lots of useless things, very old school - by heart - no thinking learning system etc). I am failing to even want to meet someone to have a relationship (single for years now, I am only 32).
We have a dog and a cat as well. (is it an issue ?)
Kid eager to lern Germanic Swiss if necessary, she speaks 3 languages already, fluently.
I am eager to find myself in a dynamic place where I can create a circle of friends or at least meet interesting OPEN MINDED people (big lack of the latter here).
I work in finance .

We considered Scotland for a while, but Brexit + covid foced me to look for alternatives;
We are looking for a place thats smaller and less hectic and negative than Paris, with nature at our doorstep, access to good food (kid has intolerances), kid also has glasses (insurance matters), and good schools OR schools that will not take too much of the day time to copmpensate at home . I doubt I'll find 40K per year for an international school...

Please share your insights. thoughts. Observations. All is welcome .
Thank you !
Come to CH by all means. You might not be getting all what you wish for but would definitely start appreciating Paris more
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Ι think Zurich is better socially and there are lots of expats there to hang out with.
exactly, expats...
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Re: moving to Switzerland from France

Have you thoight about The Netherlands ?

Swiss mentality.... is shaped by small mountain villages where everyone knows everyone, people not from the same valley are looked upon with distrust, farms, fields, cows, being snowed in in winter, the only connection to the outside is the daily bus.... you get the picture.

CH has 6 million policemen, with the other 2 million people being immigrants.
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at least meet interesting OPEN MINDED people

London? Definitely not CH!
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Have you thoight about The Netherlands ?
Yep, I have. Will be visiting in August to at least have a look around.
I'm not sure about how open minded they are either and also the education aspect ...
Flemish part of Belgium, for example, is anything but open minded. They are organized, clean, tis safe - ppl don't even lock doors or attach bikes but... felt cold and unwelcome there. Don't get me wrong, this may be my PERSONAL feeling only which is based on my own interpretation of it all but I wouldn't want to live there.
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London? Definitely not CH!
London is worse than Paris in terms of 1)size , 2) commute time 3) ridiculously expansive rent and salaries thant don't really correspond and also its just... too big ! I am tired of big cities. Hectic lifestyle, stressed people. long commute hours.
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