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Leaving Job to travel, C Permit

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A friend asked me some questions which I answered to the best of my understanding but would love some inputs from others in this forum.

She wants to leave her job and go travelling (crazy time notwithstanding).
She is financially stable and holds a C permit.

If she quits her job to go travelling, does she need to inform RAV? Or will RAV contact her directly. I did mention that always better to get fired than quitting voluntarily from a RAV perspective but she has been bitten by the travel bug.

Assume she can stay out of CH for upto 06 months with no impact on the C Permit. WHat happens if she continues to travel beyond that period or can she break up her trip in 06 months duration i.e. she travels for o6 months, come back to ch for a month and travels again. Would that be an issue from a permit perspective? I did not know the answer to this question.
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Folks

A friend asked me some questions which I answered to the best of my understanding but would love some inputs from others in this forum.

She wants to leave her job and go travelling (crazy time notwithstanding).
She is financially stable and holds a C permit.

If she quits her job to go travelling, does she need to inform RAV? Or will RAV contact her directly. I did mention that always better to get fired than quitting voluntarily from a RAV perspective but she has been bitten by the travel bug.

Assume she can stay out of CH for upto 06 months with no impact on the C Permit. WHat happens if she continues to travel beyond that period or can she break up her trip in 06 months duration i.e. she travels for o6 months, come back to ch for a month and travels again. Would that be an issue from a permit perspective? I did not know the answer to this question.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Its not a RAV thing. Tell your commune, you can check in a C permit for up to 4 years and return to it. Obviously you can't claim rav and all that while your off travelling but you can put your C on hold for a number of years.
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If she quits her job to go travelling, does she need to inform RAV? Or will RAV contact her directly. I did mention that always better to get fired than quitting voluntarily from a RAV perspective but she has been bitten by the travel bug.
Would be lovely for RAV to pay my hotel bills and airfare to Majorca too! I'm ok with economy class and 4 stars!
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Re: Leaving Job to travel, C Permit

There is the option to put a C permit on hold, but I’m not sure if travelling is an accepted reason. Otherwise, she’ll have to remain resident and pay health insurance. I’m not sure how long she’d need to be back in the country after the 6 months, she’d do best to send her gemeinde or sem an email and ask.

Oh... and she’s not going to get anything from RAV!
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Its not a RAV thing. Tell your commune, you can check in a C permit for up to 4 years and return to it. Obviously you can't claim rav and all that while your off travelling but you can put your C on hold for a number of years.
Whether going travelling is a good enough reason to do so only the commune/gemeinde can say. Usually it's because you're being sent to work on assignment by your Swiss employer, studying abroad, military service, etc.

Permits are issued on the basis that your centre of life is here. That means theoretically most of your time should be here too; for residency purposes that's 183 days of the year. Yes, she could do up to 6 months out, come back for a few weeks and then go again. Is this likely to be just for a year or longer though? Might get away with it if it's just a year, but longer - questions may be asked especially if nosy neighbours say they haven't seen her around for a long while.
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Old 18.06.2020, 14:43
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Re: Leaving Job to travel, C Permit

She should stick around long enough to apply for and receive Swiss citizenship. Then she can travel to her heart's content and not worry about permits, maintaining an apartment and insurance, etc.
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She should stick around long enough to apply for and receive Swiss citizenship. Then she can travel to her heart's content and not worry about permits, maintaining an apartment and insurance, etc.
What’s the deal with travelling long term as a Swiss citizen? I assume you need to retain residence, to have health insurance/travel insurance during your travels.... ?
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What’s the deal with travelling long term as a Swiss citizen? I assume you need to retain residence, to have health insurance/travel insurance during your travels.... ?
No. Just sign off and leave the country. Friend of mine did a world (climbing) trip and signed on again for health insurance when he came back. He did take out travel insurance to cover that period.
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No. Just sign off and leave the country. Friend of mine did a world (climbing) trip and signed on again for health insurance when he came back. He did take out travel insurance to cover that period.
And you don't have to worry about how long you're gone. As a citizen you can always come back to CH whether you've been gone for 5 years or never even lived here.
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No. Just sign off and leave the country. Friend of mine did a world (climbing) trip and signed on again for health insurance when he came back. He did take out travel insurance to cover that period.
Yeah I was just thinking, generally you have to be resident somewhere in order to obtain travel insurance
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Whether going travelling is a good enough reason to do so only the commune/gemeinde can say. Usually it's because you're being sent to work on assignment by your Swiss employer, studying abroad, military service, etc.

Permits are issued on the basis that your centre of life is here. That means theoretically most of your time should be here too; for residency purposes that's 183 days of the year. Yes, she could do up to 6 months out, come back for a few weeks and then go again. Is this likely to be just for a year or longer though? Might get away with it if it's just a year, but longer - questions may be asked especially if nosy neighbours say they haven't seen her around for a long while.
Maybe things have changed now and I am not directly answering your question but there is another problem in case you decide to leave the country for a second time. You are allowed to put your C on hold once, but you can't do it again without losing the C permit. That was how it was explained to me at one point when I was considering a temporary job relocation.

This was also the experience of a friend of mine who is Dutch, but was born here and spent all her life here. She went travelling for 1 year, came back, worked a few years, and was planning to go travelling again but had to cancel at the last minute when she was informed the same. She then decided to become Swiss.

Maybe this has changed, and different now for EU citizens with the bilateral agreement, I don't know...
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Maybe things have changed now and I am not directly answering your question but there is another problem in case you decide to leave the country for a second time. You are allowed to put your C on hold once, but you can't do it again without losing the C permit. That was how it was explained to me at one point when I was considering a temporary job relocation...
I think it depends on circumstances. A friend of mine was sent abroad by his Swiss employer for a few, returned to CH and worked for a few more years, and is now abroad again for a job assignment for a few years. No problem putting his C permit on hold either time, as he was sent abroad by the employer.
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