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CHF140K gross is a fine Salary in Zürich.

However the equivalent of M&S or Sainsbury's is called Globus and the groceries there are quite expensive.
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Really? I would put Globus on a par with Harrods (maybe slightly under as I haven't been to the UK in more than 10 years). Globus has very few stores and I have never seen anyone going out of one with a full shopping trolley. It is for buying specialty items. Sainsbury is nowhere near Globus prices. Did you mean Waitrose?
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Really?



Yeah a multitude of inaccuracies.


The food in Coop is fine but Globus has fine food.
140k would be fine but it's not a fine salary for Zurich.
My haircut is fine but it's not a fine haircut.
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Re: Good salary in Zurich

And then there are flats that are fine or really fine flats.

https://www.comparis.ch/immobilien/m...-zimmer/mieten
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Re: Good salary in Zurich

Can't comment on what your "market value" is supposed to be

2-2.5 times UK salary sounds like a reasonable basic calculation if intent is to compare apples-apples.

You will get more space (accommodation) for same money as in central London, other than that lifestyle here is more expensive but not unreasonably and massively so.

Salary is almost twice the average Swiss salary, so obviously plenty to live a very good life.

You will be able to afford Massimo Dutti.

And it sounds about aligned with what most lawyers with experience across a multitude of industries would make.
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The food in Coop is fine but Globus has fine food.
Wait till you go to Jelmoli grocery...

OP, there isn’t a good scene for English art or normal cinema, most movies are dubbed here which is infuriating. You are better off in Zurich though than in most Swiss cities. The Zurich Film Festival is really a highlight every year though and something to look forwards to. English theater is also rather minimum.

Keep in mind you are moving to a foreign country where 3 native languages are spoken not including English. You will need to learn German to fully integrate here. Otherwise, there are plenty of expats to keep you company.
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Re: Good salary in Zurich

I live in Zurich more than 9 years and i came with around 100 and now above 140.

Even 100k is quite good due to low taxes if you live in Zurich.

With 140k you can even pay lower taxes living in Zug. I am 5 min walking from office so i never bored to move but i lose some taxes money.

In Switzerland, you pay taxes according where you live (Zurich = very good, Zug = amazing).

The only thing it changed in last 9 years is rent (maybe 20% higher due to a lot of immigrants).

Regarding car, yes it is very expensive in Switzerland. Not the lease but the maintenance.

From 2013 to 2017 i rented cars when i needed (it is pretty easy the rental process). However i decided in 2017 to have my own car and that costs me around 10 000/year.

Since my salary grew from 100 to 140 i do not think about it.

It is all about where do you want to put your money. Some people spent way more than 10k travelling what in my age (39) makes no sense.

I know people will kill me for this sentence but living in a place makes you grow. Now going 7 days and just check the best either backpacking or staying in resorts gives you zero grow. I decided to invest in loving a car

I go out 5x a week, i bought a flat and a car in my country and i rent a 80 sqm flat in Zurich.

Unless you want to save 75k/year (some people has this target) 140k is a lot of money.
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Old 30.06.2020, 08:43
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You are talking about luxury shopping. The OP said 'upper end of the high street' which does not mean designer. I understand something like PKZ, Globus where one can buy quality pieces of clothing without breaking the bank. I don't think the OP meant Yves Saint Laurent.
If you're into style and looking good, from ZH daytrips to Milano with the train are no problem...

This from me, a guy who just said a teary goodbye to the summer short he bought when still living in NL, more than 15 yrs ago...
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Even 100k is quite good due to low taxes if you live in Zurich.

And if you move just outside of Zurich you can save more as the taxes are a lot lower just outside. Zurich city is quite expensive comparatively (in the Kanton).
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Hi vladest, care to elaborate on this?
clothes are really expensive here.
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Re: Good salary in Zurich

one question i have is if you're a lawyer with 10+ pqe, why is your salary so low at £55k?
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Lived in Switzerland for 10 years without a car, agreed. Use public transport or hire a car if you want to drive somewhere on the weekends.

OP, you will be more than fine on that salary.
I agree. I never had a car in all the years I've been here. I have a GA (a general public transport pass that takes you virtually everywhere). I justified it on the costs of the commute alone, but the first few years I was off every weekend discovering some place I hadn't seen yet or going on a hike or to some festival or something. Really great value for money.
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one question i have is if you're a lawyer with 10+ pqe, why is your salary so low at £55k?
Just look at the first post and you’ll get an idea why... I for one am looking forward to the future threads on dating Swiss women...
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Just look at the first post and you’ll get an idea why... I for one am looking forward to the future threads on dating Swiss women...
£55k would be around the salary of a 2nd year trainee or NQ in London...
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£55k would be around the salary of a 2nd year trainee or NQ in London...
Where does he say he’s in London? You’d be surprised how low the average salary is outside the London corporate law/magic circle/American firms is.

Plenty of provincial lawyers won’t see £55k a year ever.
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Where does he say he’s in London? You’d be surprised how low the average salary is outside the London corporate law/magic circle/American firms is.

Plenty of provincial lawyers won’t see £55k a year ever.
Where do I say he is in London? I just give a reference point. Something seems odd when he earns less than a NQ lawyer could earn in Bristol.
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Where do I say he is in London? I just give a reference point. Something seems odd when he earns less than a NQ lawyer could earn in Bristol.
You didn‘t, but your reference point was for the highest earning part of the country, which is skewed a) general London premium, b) the other factors I mention.

https://www.lawsociety.org.uk/law-ca...licitors-earn/
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Re: Good salary in Zurich

I am what you would call provincial. £55K is not a bad salary for where I am from, but I appreciate that I can earn a lot more elsewhere. However, earning a lot more elsewhere does not necessarily mean one will have a better life. I suppose it depends on what one is comfortable with. The whole purpose of starting this thread was to discover if I could have a similar lifestyle to the one I have at the moment (in the UK) on 140,000 CHF in Zurich. Most people have been really helpful. Let's keep that way.
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Yeah a multitude of inaccuracies.


The food in Coop is fine but Globus has fine food.
140k would be fine but it's not a fine salary for Zurich.
My haircut is fine but it's not a fine haircut.
Nobody's haircut is fine at the moment!
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CHF140K gross is a fine Salary in Zürich.

It's numerically nearly 2.5 times your Sterling salary. This is good.

However the equivalent of M&S or Sainsbury's is called Globus and the groceries there are quite expensive.
Coop would be your best bet, it's basically Tesco's.

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Thank you for your kind offer. I will see how I get on. But, if I think I might need some assistance - I might take you up on that offer. Thanks.
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Re: Good salary in Zurich

you're getting a very high uplift on your UK salary, it's a very good deal, don't even bother thinking too much

you can always save money by going to Germany for large purchases, and with careful budgeting you will have plenty left

shopping in Zurich is unnecessarily expensive, so you may want to shop when you're back in the UK or in the nearby Germany or France
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