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SUV dilema

Having short listed the car, options etc, I have been brooding over this choice for quite a while now. Seeking your opinion based on your experience.

BWM X3 20D M sport
or BMW X3 M40i

There is a huge performance jump, at the reasonably high cost (considered higher insurance & road tax)

The question is, M40i is so tempting, but as I do most of the travels with family (2 kids), do I really get to appreciate its value?

The speed limits in CH does not help much.

What is your experience. I know it is a personal choice, but as some one who use SUV for personal use, do you frequently wish your car had extra power?

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Re: SUV dilema

The 20d is of course the more sensible choice.
I would not go for the X3 M40i. If you want a performance version, then better go for the M340i.
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I have an X3 2.5, and tbh the thing has more power than I likely ever will need, and also more than enough speed. (Fuel usage is insanely high btw on top speed on such cars)

It is a lot of extra money for an indeed much more powerful car, but many people overestimate how much they would need the extra power/speed. Let's say you'd use the kick down 20 times while owning the car, that's like 1.000 bucks per time you use it :P

For the price difference you could also every year rent a Lamborghini and have a fun day in Germany to get rid of the testosterone.
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Re: SUV dilema

Why are you choosing between a small Diesel and a powerful petrol engine? I would suggest a good compromise could be the 30d. I have a 330d (still the 6 cyl version) and it offers all the power you (never) need and cosumes under 7 liters.
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Re: SUV dilema

If money is not an issue, go for 4.0. The feeling that you can push and leave that **** behind you, is as valuable as those couple of times per year, when you will actually do it.
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Re: SUV dilema

Go for the more powerful one. If not you will always think back and question why you didnít. The M40i is likely also to have more standard features that you will need to option on the other car, so the price differential might not be as great as first appears.

I did a quick configuration and with similar spec the 2.0i comes in at CHF85k, the M40i at CHF102k and the X3M at CHF111k.

On top of that Binelli currently have a bunch of brand new M40is starting at CHF84k (list, CHF101k)
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The M40i is likely also to have more standard features that you will need to option on the other car, so the price differential might not be as great as first appears.
Thats true enough actually, higher engine models normally come with a raft of higher spec options as standard. I've no idea if that's applicable to this model but it'd be worth a bit of research.
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Why are you choosing between a small Diesel and a powerful petrol engine? I would suggest a good compromise could be the 30d. I have a 330d (still the 6 cyl version) and it offers all the power you (never) need and cosumes under 7 liters.
I have the same, 330xd, and its been a perfect compromise of price/performance/economy. Enough that although I'd like to upgrade, at each time a proper comparison was made, i stayed with the current. Absolutely fantastic engine.
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For the price difference you could also every year rent a Lamborghini and have a fun day in Germany to get rid of the testosterone.
Thank you, this thought never crossed my mind. Great Idea!
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The question is, M40i is so tempting, but as I do most of the travels with family (2 kids), do I really get to appreciate its value?

No.


I used to have my M3 here - total waste but I'm not sure I could bring myself to buy a 2l diesel.



BTW the X3 M40i is a 3l turbo, an X330ti if you will, so not like the old-school 4+l V8s.
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Re: SUV dilema

One more thing is whether the kids enjoy the speed or whether they notice the firmer suspension / harsher ride of the M-series, even with the suspension set to comfort.
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Re: SUV dilema

Thank you all for the thoughtful replies.

The price difference was not much (compared to performance increase).

Wont travel much within city and not planning to thrash it all the time.
So, mileage is not an issue.

20D M sport suspension is on firmer side. Where as M40i adaptive suspension makes it smooth when in comfy mode.

Had a detailed chat with the better half and decided to go for M40i.
(The winning argument went like this - it is good for comfort, wont upset kids, allows me to have some fun when I can, and most importantly, the next car could be an electric, even autonomous )

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Had a detailed chat with the better half and decided to go for M40i.
Nice! Also, donít forget that power is a safety feature!!!
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Re: SUV dilema

Off topic but have you looked at the all wheel drive TESLAs. I been driving a BMW for almost two decades now, but if Ihad the money would be greatly tempted to get a TESLA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdaEv-AEofU
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Had a detailed chat with the better half and decided to go for M40i.
(The winning argument went like this - it is good for comfort, wont upset kids, allows me to have some fun when I can, and most importantly, the next car could be an electric, even autonomous )

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You are the first man in the world I know who won the discussing with the OH to buy the ride you want
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You are the first man in the world I know who won the discussing with the OH to buy the ride you want

She'd probably rather look like she's married to Billy Big Bollocks rather than Dougal McFrugal.
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One more thing is whether the kids enjoy the speed or whether they notice the firmer suspension / harsher ride of the M-series, even with the suspension set to comfort.

It's not an M-series but yeah probably does have a bad ride.
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It's not an M-series but yeah probably does have a bad ride.
Itís not the suspension that causes a bad ride, but large wheels, with low profile, run flat, tyres. And those you can get on a 20d or an X3M
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