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Old 05.07.2020, 08:51
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Re: Worried about drugs in Oerlikon Platz

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I am not worried just because they are there doing their things.

I am worried because I know what comes in the same package. I know what people do when they want to consume and they don't have money. And I know what happens when a kid touches a needle that somebody left on the floor after injecting.

I really hope that the police take some action and the situation reverts soon, at least before something bad happens.
Let's cross that bridge when we come to it. You're being dramatic.

But I guess since that's your line of thinking, you won't have much choice but to never spend time in any city or major dwelling. As curley says, drug addicts are part of every society and maybe some implicit acceptance and tolerance would be in order given no one has done anything to you at all and very probably won't.

Also if you want the police to remove them, call them. Not that it will do much because see earlier comment - but instead of hoping they would magically turn up to fix the "issue", maybe be proactive.
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Old 05.07.2020, 09:08
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I once had to use the public restroom at the Oerlikon train station , and it's still the only restroom I have ever come across where there is a special bin marked for used needles.
What? You want T1 diabetics to just toss their syringes and/or needles in the bin? Not that many actually use syringes anymore.

It’s nice that this option is available in a few places.
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Old 05.07.2020, 09:11
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Re: Worried about drugs in Oerlikon Platz

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And I know what happens when a kid touches a needle that somebody left on the floor after injecting.
That’s why they have needle disposal bins.

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I also believe they have needle exchange programs where addicts can get a new sterile one, in exchange for a used one. Problem solved.

People are going to do drugs, there is very little we can do about this. My goodness we can’t even get nicotine addicts to quit.

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Old 05.07.2020, 09:14
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Marktplatz then.
Does it really matter?
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Old 05.07.2020, 11:19
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Does it really matter?
If not, why bother with street and piazza names at all?
On the other hand, soon the Roomba will tell the Navi where we're headed and we don't need this nonsense anymore.

I lived in Oerlikon for a while as a child, I wanted to know where OP is talking about.
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Old 05.07.2020, 12:10
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So what were their concerns?
They were out undercover looking for specific people, aka the big fish, main suppliers, etc.

They looked like bums, but were armed and well trained. They used to do stints on SwissAir flights to the US, also armed.

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Old 05.07.2020, 12:17
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What? You want T1 diabetics to just toss their syringes and/or needles in the bin? Not that many actually use syringes anymore.

It’s nice that this option is available in a few places.
I had actually almost added that it's good that they have those bins. I was just surprised to see one for the first time. I think it's a bit obvious that they're not meant for diabetics, though. If that was the case, you'd see needle bins in most public restrooms rather than mainly just in areas that are known for attracting drug users.
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Re: Worried about drugs in Oerlikon Platz

Actually they are more common than you think. I’ve seen them in airports (both airside and landside), train stations and shopping centres.

I take my used needles, and lancettes, home with me but when travelling it is nice to have somewhere safe.
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Old 05.07.2020, 12:59
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Actually they are more common than you think. I’ve seen them in airports (both airside and landside), train stations and shopping centres.

I take my used needles, and lancettes, home with me but when travelling it is nice to have somewhere safe.

That makes sense that they would be convenient for diabetics, but the bins are also intended for heroin users, as evidenced in this article. Have a nice day.

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Old 05.07.2020, 13:18
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They were out undercover looking for specific people, aka the big fish, main suppliers, etc.

They looked like bums, but were armed and well trained. They used to do stints on SwissAir flights to the US, also armed.

Tom
I think they still do. I remember one police-guy doing this job (not drug specific though).
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Re: Worried about drugs in Oerlikon Platz

Taking of laundry room slots. Clothes drying on balconies on Sundays.

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Taking of laundry room slots. Clothes drying on balconies on Sundays.
Yes. Thats certainly the work of these Balkonian mobsters!!
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Old 06.07.2020, 07:27
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Had a couple of cop friends back in the late '80s (ZH undercover Kripo)

People doing drugs was the least of their concerns, or so they told me.
Of course you did Tom, of course you did...

It's amazing how you can seamlessly invent the perfect anecdote for every occasion. It's also amazing, your BS stories aside, how you compare the situation in the late 80's to now, as though it still directly applies. There is no way that heroin dealers moving into more public places, or heroin users shooting up in public, is the "least of their concerns" in the true sense of the phrase.

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Oerlikon itself has a long history with people who got mental health issues, they
can be find at the market place or train station.

Due to the corona virus their income stream has drained, the contact centers in oerlikon are remain closed, there are not many people around , where they can hide .
From the days of refugees from the eastern countries and their mafia this problem started. Alot ended up in the ghettos of Oerlikon.
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Old 06.07.2020, 11:58
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People taking their vaccinations seriously and showing it publicly. Zurich leading by example.
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I really hope that the police take some action and the situation reverts soon, at least before something bad happens.
And then what?

The police may arrest one or the other, but they'll have to let them go a few hours later. Rinse and repeat. They don't get them off their drug or reduce their consumption, in fact they don't change anything. All they do is waste their time, efforts and motivation, and waste tax money by wasting everybody's time.

Of course, eventually the drug users may react and move elsewhere. They won't vanish, they just move.

Possibly right to where you live.
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Old 06.07.2020, 21:30
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It's amazing how you can seamlessly invent the perfect anecdote for every occasion.
I don't invent anything, I've just live a fuller life than you.

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Alot ended up in the ghettos of Oerlikon.


Ghettos..... you’ve been in CH too long if you think Neu Affoltern counts as a ghetto. Bless.
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