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Old 08.07.2020, 20:52
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Its on my list of things to avoid while looking to buy a house...churches, dog rescue centers, railways, asbestos roofs, old school electric heating...

When looking through the pictues for a flat, a pictoresk church tower visible through a window is not cute, its a red flag !
I'm as observant as you are - my red flag is children's playground.
Beware of public swimming pools as well.

I love bells though, any. We don't have any around here but depending on the weather we sometimes here the ones from an other town - only weddings and funerals though.
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Its on my list of things to avoid while looking to buy a house...churches, dog rescue centers, railways, asbestos roofs, old school electric heating...

When looking through the pictues for a flat, a pictoresk church tower visible through a window is not cute, its a red flag !
I think the only red flags for me would be bars/disco (the streets in the morning aren't sightly, not mentioning noise) and those garbage disposal tanks that are burried under ground. Don't like the whiff of those.

But you are right - rails (dust) and asbestos. Schools maybe since I am glad to leave the beehive behind at night.
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Old 08.07.2020, 22:24
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Its on my list of things to avoid while looking to buy a house...churches, dog rescue centers, railways, asbestos roofs, old school electric heating...
Even so, our house didn't lie under a flight path until we'd been living it for five years. And they fly directly over our house. If the planes land (it's only landing planes that cause us a problem) between 10pm and 6am, Euroairport is fined. I've never seen a penny of that. Oh well.
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Old 08.07.2020, 22:37
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Re: How to live next to a church?

Get used to the bells as time passes by. It will eventually become a routinely music to one’s ear
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Old 08.07.2020, 22:43
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Re: How to live next to a church?

Church bells are nice... from a distance.

For the OP... Maybe custom-made earplugs would help. They're probably not something that should be worn every night, but they work amazingly well for cancelling out noise and could be worn on weekends when you want to sleep in. Most stores that sell hearing aids can make them for you. They take a little mold of the inside of your ear (no pain or discomfort at all) and then from that they make the little silicon earplugs. They're very comfortable to wear and definitely block noise much, much better than store-bought earplugs. Mine cost about 100 CHF in total. Best 100 bucks I ever spent.
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Get used to the bells as time passes by. It will eventually become a routinely music to one’s ear
The problem is that to a musician, they're never whole notes. They're a bunch of out of tune bells resonating the wrong way.
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The problem is that to a musician, they're never whole notes. They're a bunch of out of tune bells resonating the wrong way.
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Get used to the bells as time passes by. It will eventually become a routinely music to one’s ear
Or one learns to tune out? Like we do when someone annoying talks? (that would be the parents for many kids lol)


I would certainly take into consideration proximity to a church here, if church bells would bother me. But wait, then people couldn't complain on public fora, FB groups etc ....
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Its on my list of things to avoid
Don't forget to ask about the vicinity of shooting ranges. Their sound can carry pretty far, and chances are they are closed, when you go to see a place.
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Re: How to live next to a church?

There is only one working solution: burn down the church. However, it might only be a temporary solution as it will be rebuilt.

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I recently moved in the centre of Lausanne. A few days in I discovered an unexpected source of annoyance. Bells. Every morning at 8, even on weekends. How do people even live with them? Don't they ever want to sleep longer? Especially now that it's summer and you want to sleep with windows open.

What's the big deal about the bells in Switzerland? It's otherwise such a quiet country, and all of a sudden this.

Any tips for soundproofing the window? I can't do any major reengineering like removing them and installing a new one since I'm renting the place. Any solution like soundproof curtains or blinds?
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There is only one working solution: burn down the church. However, it might only be a temporary solution as it will be rebuilt.
You could ‘borrow’ the bells.

Ask not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee
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I....Every morning at 8, even on weekends. How do people even live with them? Don't they ever want to sleep longer? ....
People here wake up ridiculously early. It's brutal
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Old 09.07.2020, 09:39
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People here wake up ridiculously early. It's brutal
Church bells, cow bells, door bells. People always find something to complain about in Switzerland

Es ist brutal ...
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The problem is that to a musician, they're never whole notes. They're a bunch of out of tune bells resonating the wrong way.
Honestly, for somebody with a perfect pitch, out-of-tune bells are the least of the nuissances. Just don't switch the radio on, subway announcements, mall muzzak, cellphone alarm, tiktok shinenigans, edu videos, TV, etc..

Bells are ok, they aren't meant to be finely tuned to musical ears. They are tuned to something else.

I like them. Glad they they aren't pulled down like statues elsewhere.
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I like them. Glad they they aren't pulled down like statues elsewhere.
Like the statues of the Hapsburg empire that were pulled down in then Czechoslovakia after WWI?
Like the statues of Masaryk there that were removed after WWII?

People have been taking down statues and replacing them for years.

Should we have statues of Hitler or monuments to his Third Reich in Germany?

Should statues of Stalin have been removed? Should new statues of Stalin be erected - like the bust in Novosibirsk?
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Re: How to live next to a church?

Only the ugly ones!

Churches and bells, on the other hand, were mostly built to not really please our aesthetic ears but offer practical functionality.
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Church bells, cow bells, door bells. People always find something to complain about in Switzerland

Es ist brutal ...
I recommend the semantron/xylon. My grandparents lived close to a monastery and this is a sound I learned to love and live with during summer holidays. It really brings peace. I also miss the nuns' sweets....

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People here wake up ridiculously early. It's brutal
Those who live in the countryside start the day at 5 a.m. and OP complained about 8 a.m. being early? lol

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Honestly, for somebody with a perfect pitch, out-of-tune bells are the least of the nuissances. Just don't switch the radio on, subway announcements, mall muzzak, cellphone alarm, tiktok shinenigans, edu videos, TV, etc..

Bells are ok, they aren't meant to be finely tuned to musical ears. They are tuned to something else.

I like them. Glad they they aren't pulled down like statues elsewhere.
I guess you haven't heard change bells recently?

I wouldn't mind them coming down. Religion should be a private affair, not for public consumption IMO.
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Be glad they only start at 8am. Some ring 24 hours a day and chime the quarter hours as well.

I can vouch for this - I rented a Swiss Star on Schwamendingenstrasse in Oerlikon and was not happy when I woke at 3am to hear the bell chime every 15 minutes throughout the night.

Weirdly though after a week I didn't notice it but that said there was no way I was renting longer-term near a church
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I recently moved in the centre of Lausanne. A few days in I discovered an unexpected source of annoyance. Bells. Every morning at 8, even on weekends. How do people even live with them? Don't they ever want to sleep longer? Especially now that it's summer and you want to sleep with windows open.

What's the big deal about the bells in Switzerland? It's otherwise such a quiet country, and all of a sudden this.

Any tips for soundproofing the window? I can't do any major reengineering like removing them and installing a new one since I'm renting the place. Any solution like soundproof curtains or blinds?
The bells are to remind you to repent your sins
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