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Smoking cigars in the bathing area ( on the lake )

I got pretty pissed off with someone smoking a cigar yeasterday in the bathing area. A big havana cigar that he puffed on for a couple of hours.And the smoke carried very far. Not just me. So I got pissed off and told him to stop or to get his arse out of there. He looked at me in some dumb way.( no doubt he was dumb ) And kept on with his smoking. The egotistical arse hole.
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Re: Smoking cigars in the bathing area ( on the lake )

... and people are surprised how easily viruses can spread, even outdoors.

Get yourself a water pistol ... Please report back from your hospital room.
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Re: Smoking cigars in the bathing area ( on the lake )

Outdoor public area where it's not banned. Why should he listen to you? Don't like it, take it up with the people who run the bathing area to get smoking banned. Then you might have something to complain about.
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Re: Smoking cigars in the bathing area ( on the lake )

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Outdoor public area where it's not banned. Why should he listen to you? Don't like it, take it up with the people who run the bathing area to get smoking banned. Then you might have something to complain about.
No, but can't people here put the laws aside for once and have a bit of consideration for other people?

Someone on another thread said the U.S. had a "me" culture.

The U.S. is clearly not the only country with that attitude.
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... and people are surprised how easily viruses can spread, even outdoors.

Get yourself a water pistol ... Please report back from your hospital room.
do you mean that, seriously? I'm going to do it next time and I'll report back -but obviously not from a hospital bed.
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Outdoor public area where it's not banned. Why should he listen to you? Don't like it, take it up with the people who run the bathing area to get smoking banned. Then you might have something to complain about.
He could have been a bit more considerate of other people, just because he enjoys puffing on his cigar for a couple of hours doesn’t mean everyone around him does.

If Omtatstat has politely asked him to refrain from blowing his smoke at him I would have hoped for a bit of cooperation. It seems Omtatstat wasn’t awfully polite though.
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do you mean that, seriously? I'm going to do it next time and I'll report back -but obviously not from a hospital bed.
No I didn't mean it seriously. But confronting people often results in unforeseen consequences.

Is it worse to fill you air with smoke or to fill their cigar with water?
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Is it worse to fill you air with smoke or to fill their cigar with water?
Putting out his cigar with water is a win-win situation:


Better for his health, better for yours - but more importantly, better for the health of little kids who seem to be the main users of badis.
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do you mean that, seriously? I'm going to do it next time and I'll report back -but obviously not from a hospital bed.
You just fancy your chances in a fight then? I'd say there's a pretty fair chance that squirting random strangers with water just because they're smoking could lead to a violent response, and it wouldn't surprise me if you were held responsible by the police as the aggressor for said violence.

We know from many previous posts that both you and Om think that people shouldn't be allowed to smoke in public outdoor spaces, but the fact is that they are. You have no right telling them not to do so; trying to enforce it with a water pistol as suggested could surely be prosecuted as assault.
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Re: Smoking cigars in the bathing area ( on the lake )

Are there not smoke-free areas at the bathing area?
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Putting out his cigar with water is a win-win situation:


Better for his health, better for yours - but more importantly, better for the health of little kids who seem to be the main users of badis.
I suppose you couldn’t be blamed if your kids ‘accidentally’ squirted it whilst having a water pistol fight.
It is a badi after all and kids like to do that sort of thing at the badi.
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Old 09.07.2020, 10:28
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Re: Smoking cigars in the bathing area ( on the lake )

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No, I don't think it would get to a fight.

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I'd say there's a pretty fair chance that squirting random strangers with water just because they're smoking could lead to a violent response, and it wouldn't surprise me if you were held responsible by the police as the aggressor for said violence.

We know from many previous posts that both you and Om think that people shouldn't be allowed to smoke in public outdoor spaces, but the fact is that they are. You have no right telling them not to do so; trying to enforce it with a water pistol as suggested could surely be prosecuted as assault.
I never wrote that. Please show me the post where I wrote that?

There's a lot of open space here. Smoking a cigar in the confines of a bathing area is of course allowed. My gripe is these selfish people doing it who can't see that their selfish actions are annoying everyone else - especially those with young children.

Do you also believe that spraying someone, as a badi, with a water pistol would be considered assault? Really?

I'm discussing the morality of it - not the legality.

Can't people think for themselves or do they need a law for every occasion to tell them how to behave? Do you?
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Re: Smoking cigars in the bathing area ( on the lake )

Smoking a cigar in a public space is like smoking a nuke.
Fags are bad enough, mostly you can avoid fag smoke but a cigar not so much and don´t forget some of them are simply vile.
If your stogie fell into that category then you have my sympathy.
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Re: Smoking cigars in the bathing area ( on the lake )

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Are there not smoke-free areas at the bathing area?
The water is generally smoke free although at one badi I went to, a woman stood smoking in the middle of the toddlers little paddling pool.
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The water is generally smoke free although at one badi I went to, a woman stood smoking in the middle of the toddlers little paddling pool.
I recently saw a pregant woman sitting by the lake, smoking a cigarette. I guess that you have to get them used to early.
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Old 09.07.2020, 11:11
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I recently saw a pregant woman sitting by the lake, smoking a cigarette. I guess that you have to get them used to early.
The thing that smokers such as Ace1 and others can't see* is that studies in other countries where smoking is more more limited have shown that de-normalising smoking (i.e. making it not commonplace and part of normal life) have shown that less young people take it up.
This means, in simple terms, over time, the percentage number of smokers in the population goes down and continues to fall.

* or maybe don't give a damn about - I've no idea.
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Re: Smoking cigars in the bathing area ( on the lake )

The OP's repugnance is based on aesthetics, not health.

Hell is other people. I don't like experiencing.. loud people, people using their phone speaker in public, people driving cars with loud crap music and the windows down, crude people, swear words on t-shirts, badly dressed people, people with scruffy dogs, people who wear their jeans 2 inches above their bare ankles, crappy hair cuts, people stuffing food in their mouths at the beach... I could go on...

As someone who does smoke the odd cigar outside (trying to not upset other) I say.. you just have to live with the fact that you're on planet earth with a bunch of other people
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The OP's repugnance is based on aesthetics, not health.

Hell is other people. I don't like experiencing.. loud people, people using their phone speaker in public, people driving cars with loud crap music and the windows down, crude people, swear words on t-shirts, badly dressed people, people with scruffy dogs, people who wear their jeans 2 inches above their bare ankles, crappy hair cuts, people stuffing food in their mouths at the beach... I could go on...

As someone who does smoke the odd cigar outside (trying to not upset other) I say.. you just have to live with the fact that you're on planet earth with a bunch of other people
Smoking probably kills 1 million people a year worldwide.
Wearing 'a-little-bit-short' jeans or T-shirts with logos, or having a bad haircut kills how many?

Yes, let's keep smoking normalised and an acceptable part of every day life.

As for not upsetting others -how do you know you are not?
If we're told by the addicts on this forum to do nothing when people smoke next to you or your children, how do you know these people are not upset or feeling sick?
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The thing that smokers such as Ace1 and others can't see* is
Also, that their selfishness will ruin anyone's day (or more) with serious health issues.

It is possible to enjoy a cigar in a quiet corner for 10-15 minutes vs 2 hours. It is possible to enjoy your cigarette privately rather than in the immediate vicinity of others.

I would love to give every single selfish smoker asthma for one day. They usually experience what it feels like much too late and with far worse consequences.
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Re: Smoking cigars in the bathing area ( on the lake )

As long as they buy their cigarettes in Switzerland, I really don't care...



that much.
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