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What's with all the Red kites?

I've just come back from a morning cycle and it's staggering the number of Red kites I've seen this year. I know that they're not an uncommon sight in Switzerland but I counted at least 25 circling above one single field that was being harvested.

I love these magnificent birds and it's great to see them doing so well. One does wonder if numbers are increasing and why? Has anyone else noticed anything similar?
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Old 20.07.2020, 10:45
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I've just come back from a morning cycle and it's staggering the number of Red kites I've seen this year. I know that they're not an uncommon sight in Switzerland but I counted at least 25 circling above one single field that was being harvested.

I love these magnificent birds and it's great to see them doing so well. One does wonder if numbers are increasing and why? Has anyone else noticed anything similar?
I've noticed the same. They're a beautiful sight to see but I have no clue as to why they seem more prevalent in recent times.
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Old 20.07.2020, 10:53
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Re: What's with all the Red kites?

I've seen more but it's about this time of the year that the young birds are taking their first flights.

That would account for the increased numbers seen recently but that would not explain the overall increase (if there actually is one).

Why there are a lot more this year overall?- a warm winter? Less breeding adults killed by cars (because of less cars on the road due to COVID-19) back in April/May)? Less pollution...?
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Re: What's with all the Red kites?

Not so many around Lac Lemain this year, perhaps they have decided their French is good enough, they need to learn some Swiss German.
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Re: What's with all the Red kites?

We’ve had absolutely loads of them circling over here since the start of the ‘lockdown’, way more than normal.
Neuchâtel french is obviously ok for them.
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Old 20.07.2020, 13:38
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Re: What's with all the Red kites?

Loads of them up here..
Same thing, seeing them in their tens circling in the warm air. Especially when the fields have been cut, huge numbers.
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Old 20.07.2020, 14:03
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Not so many around Lac Lemain this year, perhaps they have decided their French is good enough, they need to learn some Swiss German.
Same around Winterthur, we used to have much more. They all flew off to Zurich? Can't blame them really.
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Re: What's with all the Red kites?

Due to milder winters, an increasing number of adult red kites don't fly south anymore. The young ones still fly off, probably because you can't easily override instincts but the adults tend to stay. Since migrating is always a dangerous endeavour that kills off a certain number, the birds staying here means there are more adult birds to rear chicks.

Switzerland is actually home to 10% of the world's red kite population. The ban on shooting them and ready availability of food means they have ideal conditions to thrive here.
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Old 20.07.2020, 19:14
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Re: What's with all the Red kites?

Also as they live from 20 to 25 years they are stacking up here in the Zurioberland. We are also see more hawks this year.

Red Kits have a `V`tail going inwards. Hawks have a rounded tail.

When our cat kills a mouse, more often than not a Kite will swoop down and take it from the lawn...
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Also as they live from 20 to 25 years they are stacking up here in the Zurioberland. We are also see more hawks this year.

Red Kits have a `V`tail going inwards. Hawks have a rounded tail.

When our cat kills a mouse, more often than not a Kite will swoop down and take it from the lawn...
Better than taking your cat ...
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Better than taking your cat ...
I'd pay good money for a red kite to remove my neighbors cats...and an annoying owl.
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I'd pay good money.
Is there any other kind?
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Is there any other kind?
You don't want to know.
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You don't want to know.
Why would I ask a question that I don’t want an answer for.

There may be bad people, but money can’t be anything but good.
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Why would I ask a question that I don’t want an answer for.

There may be bad people, but money can’t be anything but good.
So are guns. We're getting awfuly phylosophical here
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Re: What's with all the Red kites?

I love the fact I see so many birds of prey in CH and i have often wondered at the large groups of kites I've seen. A couple of years ago on the outskirts of Zürich I saw around 30+ kites circling a field and I was like "wtf how is that possible", but there must be enough food to support them so it's fine by me as it keeps the rodents down and the dastardly Crows in check. I often see Kites and Crows having mid-air tussles and next to where I work.

Sadly before the lockdown I also saw a mature adult kite get run over by a car near Adliswil. They are hardly small birds so I don't know how a car didn't see it. As I was walking up to it I saw its mate standing at the side of the road trying to figure out what was going on, the nflew off when it realised it was hopeless. I ran over the road with a stick to push its body to the side and give it some dignity.

Raptors are such amazing and majestic animals, the lions of the sky.
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