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Re: How legal is to open garbage?

4 non-taxed bags and two cartons/boxes. Work, plus transport = x CHFs charge.

Is this really from your building owner/agent or the city?


Edit: aSwissInTheUS beat me to it

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Old 12.08.2020, 18:25
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Reliable source for that?
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Official enough? I didn't read it all (I'm sure you will ), I just know that trash is private until it's at the collecting point - and actually even then, unless the reasons I mentioned occure.

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This is written: Vier nicht gebührenpflichtige Säcke + zwei Karton , arbeit inkl. Tansportweg. What does it mean exactly? My German is not so good.
There we go, the exception I mentioned. You should be tarred and feathered

Btw. it is theft if you pick up one of those old-clothes-bags in the street. Once someone put it there it is property of the organization it was donated to.
Yeah, I had a hard time explaining that to some of my clients too .... but that's how it is apparently.
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Old 12.08.2020, 18:48
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Official enough? I didn't read it all (I'm sure you will ), I just know that trash is private until it's at the collecting point - and actually even then, unless the reasons I mentioned occure.
Interesting. The data protection law. Intrestingly EDOEB does only a half assed job. Surprisingly he does not elaborate OPs case at all.. Hmmm.
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Old 12.08.2020, 18:57
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Re: How legal is to open garbage?

While I agree with many in this thread about not putting any personal documents in the trash, I find it a bit too simplistic to claim "once you throw away your trash - it's not yours, anyone can do anything with it" as some do.
Imagine that your neighbour decides to camp in front of the garbage bin 24/7, and every time, as soon as you throw your bag - takes it out and starts inspecting it. You probably would be freaked out by it - there is clearly enough range for privacy invasion, even if you destroy documents and stuff.

(This is just to say that, beside the OP's specific situation, their original question of "does anyone can inspect my trash?" is reasonable and legit)
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Old 12.08.2020, 19:18
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This is written: Vier nicht gebührenpflichtige Säcke + zwei Karton , arbeit inkl. Tansportweg. What does it mean exactly? My German is not so good.
In other words, your rubbish stood out like a red flag to a bull. Put it in the right bags and don't put your personal info in the trash. You made it too easy for them.
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Old 12.08.2020, 19:29
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We don't separate glass by color.

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My mistake.
The UK house has 5 recycling bins. The one for glass allows glass jars and bottles but not wine and beverage glasses. Go figure!
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Old 12.08.2020, 19:38
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My mistake.
The UK house has 5 recycling bins. The one for glass allows glass jars and bottles but not wine and beverage glasses. Go figure!
They have a different composition than wine/beer bottles, and jars- to make them stronger.
This also increases the melting point of the glass meaning they can't be recycled with the bottles and just screw things up.
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Hi all. Today happened to me a real nice situation.
The agency that rent me the flat sent me a letter with pictures of my opened garbage where they identified me by my personal documents. They sent me a fine to pay because I have not correctly separated the garbage.

How legal is this action to open garbage and identify me?


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hard drugs like cocaine etc should be taken to the chemist and not put in normal garbage
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They have a different composition than wine/beer bottles, and jars- to make them stronger.
This also increases the melting point of the glass meaning they can't be recycled with the bottles and just screw things up.
Hmmm, Maag recycling doesn't seem to mind. They just want the colours separated.
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Re: How legal is to open garbage?

The OP is here for a about a year. Did he got away with it for that long?
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Hmmm, Maag recycling doesn't seem to mind. They just want the colours separated.
I believe you are mistaken.

They do want it separated according to their website

They'll take drinking glasses for free but they don't want them mixed with bottle/jar glass.


Luzern too.

Luzern doesn't want it mixed. Broken wine glasses go in the normal rubbish bag.
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I'm confused. You seem to understand the rules of waste disposal, yet you freely admit that you can't be arsed with doing a bit of recycling like the rest of us. On the plus side, you're not proud of it. So why not make yourself proud and feel better about yourself by doing the right thing?

And no, you can't put just about everything in the rubbish bag. Electricals, metals etc need to be recycled.

Check out your local waste disposal website and learn how to do it properly.

Oh please Everyone has different limits of what they do or don't recycle. Some people recycle olive oil and greeting cards. I didn't say I don't recycle but I certainly balance it against what I have time for and how many bags filled with junk I like to decorate my balcony with. Check out Cambodia, you might feel a little less motivated to be Mr/Mrs Perfect.
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Re: How legal is to open garbage?

A whole recycling batch can become impossible to recycle, and has to be disposed of by other methods- because of a few lazy, ignorant people. It costs everyone, in so many ways- in your local taxation too.


Same for plastics.
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Oh please Everyone has different limits of what they do or don't recycle. Some people recycle olive oil and greeting cards. I didn't say I don't recycle but I certainly balance it against what I have time for and how many bags filled with junk I like to decorate my balcony with. Check out Cambodia, you might feel a little less motivated to be Mr/Mrs Perfect.
While I agree ..... what do you do with olive oil (oil in general) then?
Please don't put it down the drain or toilet. You don't only ruin the waste water but also clock up the pipes.
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While I agree ..... what do you do with olive oil (oil in general) then?
Please don't put it down the drain or toilet. You don't only ruin the waste water but also clock up the pipes.

Hi Curley


Someone on EF advised a few years back, one is allowed to put the odd half or liter of olive oil in the trash bags. It gets burnt.


Restaurants and other catering do have some service where it is collected from them when they amass ex quantity.


I had a nephew who worked in a large supermarket where they had chickens on the spit. The fat was collected in large bucket kind of containers and I believe it was collected daily or every couple of days, as they had so much
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It is not a fine. It is a bill for work and service.
Apparently you put 4 non-taxed garbage bags plus two carton boxes in the container. They removed them and disposed them properly.

How to avoid: Use the designated taxed garbage bags (Gebührensack) or put the local garbage tax sticker (Abfallmarke) on the bags.
You can get bags/stickers at the local post office or grocery store. Anything which goes into the container must be in a bag as you are charged by the volume.
Thanks for the info? How should I separate them? Organic, plastic and metal and paper?
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Thanks for the info? How should I separate them? Organic, plastic and metal and paper?
Here ya go... for each type of material it tell you what is collectible and even has little map of your nearest collection point, it you cannot put in the trash collection at your building.

https://recycling-map.ch/en/
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Re: How legal is to open garbage?

My area is going down super fast! People here just don't want to follow local Swiss rules. I want the law to come hard on such people.

- Starting to see old matresses getting dumped regularly.
- Wide non use of official bin bags
- Broken kids prams being chucked all over the place.
- Broken furniture dumped in the bin area or on the side walk.
- Kids with zero discipline.

This area used to be super clean. Old Swiss ladies used to police the area with eagle eyes. Now they are all dead and all the remaining Swiss are moving out. I am the only wannabe Swiss left here
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My area is going down super fast! People here just don't want to follow local Swiss rules. I want the law to come hard on such people.

- Starting to see old matresses getting dumped regularly.
- Wide non use of official bin bags
- Broken kids prams being chucked all over the place.
- Broken furniture dumped in the bin area or on the side walk.
- Kids with zero discipline.

This area used to be super clean. Old Swiss ladies used to police the area with eagle eyes. Now they are all dead and all the remaining Swiss are moving out. I am the only wannabe Swiss left here
There are areas like that in GE, too. I congratulate you to a good community spirit, you are not the only one! One gives a little and takes a little, discipline is part of it.

I have noticed on my morning tracks that the communal cleaning services have about 3x as much work now cleaning the horrendous amount of trash after each night here. Half of it is not in the trash cans. Fast food garbage and used masks, broken bottles everywhere, it is a bit extreme these days. Summer nights, I guess.
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My area is going down super fast! People here just don't want to follow local Swiss rules. I want the law to come hard on such people.

- Starting to see old matresses getting dumped regularly.
- Wide non use of official bin bags
- Broken kids prams being chucked all over the place.
- Broken furniture dumped in the bin area or on the side walk.
I can hardly believe this...even in the "worst" of Swiss city neighborhoods, that would come with heavy penalties. Where in the world do you live? Sorry for this, plenty of places that don't have these problems.
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