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Forbidden nudity in same-sex pool showers in Geneva

I've recently gone back to swimming after prioritizing other forms of exercise for two years and I find myself concerned about the forbidden nudity rule in the same-sex showers in the main pools in Geneva, rendering my choices of a pool rather limited (especially if you consider how close some of them are to where I live).

And I don't get it. I personally prefer to shower naked because:

- I have other things to do later on and don't have time/am too tired to come back home to shower AGAIN. I sometimes have to use public transport. That's how I've always done it in gyms/sports facilities after working out. If a shower is available, I'm not gonna use it half-assedly (no pun intended)
- Don't fancy covering my swim suit in soap that I would have to carry back into my backpack.
- That's how you shower and it's more hygienic.
- Personally, I'm more sensitive to things like jock itch than athlete's foot so, I don't think being able to wash yourself thoroughly is too much to ask (especially coming out of a public pool).
- As 'unorthodox' as it may sound, I think it desensitizes people to nudity and teaches them that it's okay to be naked in spaces like these and bodies come in all shapes and forms. After all, that's how it's done all around Europe (probably less in the US), in same-sex locker room/showering facilities and saunas in Northern Europe.
If some people are gawking, they should get kicked out and have their ability to come back revoked. You can't even ban nudity out of locker rooms altogether as there are communal changing rooms where it's 'allowed'. If anything, open showers are the safest of places to be naked in, in the changing facilities.

If some people don't want to shower naked, they don't have to. But to others like myself who have practiced sports for years (and happen to be a bit compulsive about personal hygiene... and have a life), it's just normal.

Are Swiss/Geneva people more voyeuristic? Deliberately showering with your suit/underwear on comes off as very passive-aggressive and paradoxically exposes yourself as kind of perverted and squeamish.

And if there are any swimmers who know where a proper shower is 'legally allowed' (Lignon, Livron, Marignac?) and I guess, by extension, the clientele more fitness/lap swimming-oriented (read: less gawky), I would appreciate suggestions. I want to try Lignon.
It seems the smaller pools are relatively okay with their customers committing the horrifying crime of exposing their full, bare bodies in a room solely designed for personal hygiene between members of the same gender.
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Re: Forbidden nudity in same-sex pool showers in Geneva

Hi, and welcome to the Forum, or welcome back if you are returner.

If that rule applies just as you think it does, in the pool you've been to, then I suggest asking the lifeguards whether there is perhaps a separate shower you may use, to shower naked, or whether they know of other pools in the area, where the rules are different.

Public swimming-pools often belong to a municipality or canton, and lifeguards sometimes work in more than one pool. They are the people who'd be likely to know how the nearby pools are run.

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Re: Forbidden nudity in same-sex pool showers in Geneva

I was more bothered by the changing rooms in Gyms in CH, where Mrs Mop with head scarf would come in & clean the floor whilst men were naked.
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Re: Forbidden nudity in same-sex pool showers in Geneva

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Its obvious. It would attract every homesexual if they had nude showers.
You make it sound like a disease
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Re: Forbidden nudity in same-sex pool showers in Geneva

Well, now that all the arguments are delivered let's hope the management of that particular facility reads EF.
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Re: Forbidden nudity in same-sex pool showers in Geneva

I was a bit drunk and had to double read to understand the issue. My intoxicated brain equated "same sex" with "mixed sex"

WTF? Even in prude USA I had the pleasure to encounter my professors in full frontal nudity in the swimming pool showers.

Honestly WTF? In gym and pool showers, even back in school, and specially military , nudity was never an issue. It is how you are and things are hanging. Really, there is a non nudity rule in Geneva? how bonkers.



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Re: Forbidden nudity in same-sex pool showers in Geneva

I've never heard of forbidding nudity in same-sex showers. How odd.
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Re: Forbidden nudity in same-sex pool showers in Geneva

Frankly I would ignore the rule. I’d keep my back to others and not flaunt my willy. If they don’t want to look they don’t have to.

And I would give others the same courtesy.
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I've never heard of forbidding nudity in same-sex showers. How odd.
Yes, I also found it odd. OP, are you sure you've understood this correctly? Have you seen this rule in writing, or been told it by the pool staff? Or might it just be that you happen to have been there while some particular men preferred to keep on their swimming clothes while showering?
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I've never heard of forbidding nudity in same-sex showers. How odd.
Very odd. None of that nonsense oop north. (BL).
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Its obvious. It would attract every homosexual if they had nude showers.
By that logic, every professional (or amateur) team sport athlete is gay...

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Yes, I also found it odd. OP, are you sure you've understood this correctly? Have you seen this rule in writing, or been told it by the pool staff? Or might it just be that you happen to have been there while some particular men preferred to keep on their swimming clothes while showering?
Yes, there are clear signs and it applies to several pools in Geneva (even to some around Geneva, in France or Vaud I think). They have an article about it in the news.

https://www.tdg.ch/geneve/actu-genev...story/14156704

Good to know that it's not the same elsewhere in CH, though.
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I've never heard of forbidding nudity in same-sex showers. How odd.
They had that subject in Wallisellen in 2018 as well, apparentely. Swiss-German.
The demand came from the school, to protect children. Although they had single showers as well, the outrage was big (not enough single showers, queues too long) so they ended this rule two weeks after it was implemented.
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Re: Forbidden nudity in same-sex pool showers in Geneva

I’ll revise my opinion. If there are children it’s best to follow the rules.
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if it's such an issue why not just replace open showers with individual closed showers?
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if it's such an issue why not just replace open showers with individual closed showers?
Cost issue
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Well, now that all the arguments are delivered let's hope the management of that particular facility reads EF.
It will not change. I think GE tends to implement French rules..Also because there are so many French living here.

I also found it a bit weird to see "swimsuits mandatory at all times" even at chick facilities, coz I am used to scrub after sports/swimming and you cannot wash off chlorine efficiently if you keep your swimwear on or wash off lake water with duck flees.

But the rules might be because of kids, modesty reasons, etc. Just find a more lax pool, OP.
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if it's such an issue why not just replace open showers with individual closed showers?

That would often require substantial modifications to the infrastructure, which would require somebody to "OK" the money for that.


Better just make up a new rule that also solves the problem, right?


I remember a couple of cases of "public indecency" in Zurich public pools being mentioned on 20min.ch. But it was a while ago.
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Its obvious. It would attract every homosexual if they had nude showers.
You know this is blatant and outright anti-gay rhetoric, right? I have no idea how mods can tolerate this stuff and yet ban people for far less. Disgusting.
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You know this is blatant and outright anti-gay rhetoric, right? I have no idea how mods can tolerate this stuff and yet ban people for far less. Disgusting.
It just took some time
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You know this is blatant and outright anti-gay rhetoric, right? I have no idea how mods can tolerate this stuff and yet ban people for far less. Disgusting.
looked like sarcasm to me.
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