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Re: The Swiss-German Border Closure: Any Developments?

The pressure is mounting:

https://www.badische-zeitung.de/ford...185335215.html

Let's see what happens on the 15th. I think if daily infection rates remain in the 3-figures in Germany and consistently low in Switzerland (we are even in two figures now) then there is a chance that the borders open.
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Bugger all to do with solidarity, surely restrictions are needed to still contain the spread.

As the report only mentions Switzerland and Germany surely impossible to say what might apply to others (apart from in your own anti-European mind of course). Particularly as this is the only news item on this to be found anywhere and I can see much more from local authorities on both sides of the border pulling in the opposite direction.

It is perhaps unreasonable to expect Germany to open external borders when they still have travel blocks internally. After that I guess it would make most sense to look at it case by case based on infection rates.

From the Swiss side I would currently not be happy if for example the (air) border to the US were opened - or if so then all arrivals should have a 14 day quarantine.
I've been accused on these pages of being anti-European and anti-UK, which says to me I'm doing something right. I just say things as I see them.

I wonder if you were also so open to the idea of closed (air) borders when President Trump stopped flights from China back in February?
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Old 06.05.2020, 21:01
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I've been accused on these pages of being anti-European and anti-UK, which says to me I'm doing something right.
Why ever would that be???
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Re: The Swiss-German Border Closure: Any Developments?

I've been thinking all week about the box I've got sitting across at Weil Am Rhein. Suddenly started remembering what's in there and am saying to myself "why did I buy that?"
I'm just hoping I put the other half of my contact lens supply in there because my next trip to Scotland is cancelled. I hate wearing glasses outdoors as my now weird eyesight is better with lenses.
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Old 07.05.2020, 14:19
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Re: The Swiss-German Border Closure: Any Developments?

Dentist appointment today worked. Confirmation from dentist, that with passport and I could cross the border. They didn´t check for shopping on the way back :-)
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I've been thinking all week about the box I've got sitting across at Weil Am Rhein. Suddenly started remembering what's in there and am saying to myself "why did I buy that?"
I'm just hoping I put the other half of my contact lens supply in there because my next trip to Scotland is cancelled. I hate wearing glasses outdoors as my now weird eyesight is better with lenses.
Didn't someone earlier in the discussion say that they'd cycled to Weil Am Rhein to check on their summer tyres. Couldn't you risk doing the same?
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Old 07.05.2020, 14:30
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Re: The Swiss-German Border Closure: Any Developments?

Luckily OH has a colleague living near W am R who is coming into Basel by car some days as it's difficult for him to work from home. If for any reason we can't collect it, he's offered to get it for us if we authorise him. It's non urgent and we're not being charged for storage at the moment, the box is quite big but all it contains is some kitchen stuff, bedlinen etc I bought on my last trip to Scotland.
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Re: The Swiss-German Border Closure: Any Developments?

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....From the Swiss side I would currently not be happy if for example the (air) border to the US were opened - or if so then all arrivals should have a 14 day quarantine.
Just to point out that Swiss currently operates a few flights a week to the US now so travel is possible. Of course, you need to be a Swiss citizen or resident to get back into Switzerland!
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Just to point out that Swiss currently operates a few flights a week to the US now so travel is possible. Of course, you need to be a Swiss citizen or resident to get back into Switzerland!

Travel had been possible, being allowed into the country is a different story.
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Re: The Swiss-German Border Closure: Any Developments?

There is no mandatory quarantine when you enter switzerland:

1. Passengers are not allowed to enter Switzerland.
- This does not apply to nationals or residents of Switzerland or Liechtenstein.
- This does not apply to passenger with a cross-border commuter permit who are entering Switzerland for work, with a C-visa issued by Switzerland for the purpose of "business meetings" as specialists in the field of health or "official visit" of great importance, with a D-visa issued by Switzerland or who have an assurance of a residence permit.
-This does not apply to passengers traveling directly through Switzerland to another country that they are permitted to enter.
- This does not apply to passengers who are entitled to freedom of movement and have a professional reason for entering Switzerland and have a confirmation of registration.
- This does not apply to passengers who are of great importance as specialists in the health sector.
- This does not apply to passengers travelling by land to their country of origin or residency within the European Union or Schengen area. They must have a proof of onward journey.
2. Passengers can only land at Basel (BSL), Geneva (GVA) or Zurich (ZRH).

The US is currently allowing only these people entering the country:
nationals and permanent residents of the USA;
- spouses of nationals and of permanent residents of the USA;
- parents/legal guardians of an unmarried and younger than 21 years national or permanent resident of the USA;
- the unmarried and younger than 21 years brother or sister of a national or permanent resident of the USA, who is unmarried and younger than 21 years;
- the child/foster child/ward of a national or permanent resident of the USA;
- passengers with the following visas: A-1, A-2, C-1, C-1/D, C-2, C-3, D, E-1, G-1, G-2, G-3, G-4, IR-4, IH-4, NATO-1 through NATO-4, or NATO-6 visa;
- members of the U.S. Armed Forces, spouses, and children of members of the U.S. Armed Forces;
- passengers with evidence of traveling at the invitation of the USA government for a purpose related to the containment/mitigation of the Coronavirus (COVID-19);
- passengers with documents issued by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, U.S. Customs and Border Protection, or U.S. Department of State indicating that the passenger is exempt from the restriction;
- B1 crew crewmembers that are engaged in lightering, Outer Continental Shelf (OCS) activity, wind farm activity, private air/sea crew and other similar crewmember actives.
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Re: The Swiss-German Border Closure: Any Developments?

And therefore the air borders are not as closed as would appear on the surface
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Re: The Swiss-German Border Closure: Any Developments?

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It doesn’t sound like there will be any relaxation today.

https://twitter.com/germanydiplo/sta...94762471837696
I think it is fair to continue to control borders probably till anti-body testing becomes widely available. We have to return our ski rental in Germany so waiting for border to be opened (but were told by the sports shop not to worry about it- so nice of them)
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And therefore the air borders are not as closed as would appear on the surface
Borders might not officially be "closed" in the sense that no flights are allowed in or out. Obviously some flights are operating, but there are restrictions on who can enter Switzerland. It's the same in many other countries.

Some countries might let you enter if you can get there, but then you have to quarantine for up to 14 days either at your hotel or home or even a government-designated facility. If you're planning to be a weekend visitor or take a little vacation then 14 days in quarantine probably isn't what you had in mind.
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Re: The Swiss-German Border Closure: Any Developments?

according to this website, germany is looking for a "european" solution to ease border controls.
https://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/deutsch...n-858687618004

So an opening in may seems to be unlikely, because france will keep its borders closed until June 15 th 2020

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN22J2IU
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according to this website, germany is looking for a "european" solution to ease border controls.
https://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/deutsch...n-858687618004

So an opening in may seems to be unlikely, because france will keep its borders closed until June 15 th 2020

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN22J2IU
We're not going to wait till every country in Europe is ready, I do not see a reason to do so, countries like Spain and Italy are nowhere near as ready to have their citizens allowed to roam freely through other parts of Europe as countries like Denmark, Germany, Austria and Switzerland are, why wait for them, we're all bordering each other. Let the more safe regions open up to each other more and keep tourism from and towards the still heavily effected regions wait longer.

Also France simply has no business imho with Germany and Switzerland opening up to each other.
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Also France simply has no business imho with Germany and Switzerland opening up to each other.
...as France has less new cases than Switzerland of late (relative to population) there would be more justification in Germany and France opening up and leaving Switzerland out.
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...as France has less new cases than Switzerland of late (relative to population) there would be more justification in Germany and France opening up and leaving Switzerland out.
I doubt if they have less new cases, we tested 50% more and they have more than twice as much deaths compared on the amount of people identified with an infection, meaning it is only logical to assume their black number should be much higher.
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Re: The Swiss-German Border Closure: Any Developments?

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We're not going to wait till every country in Europe is ready, I do not see a reason to do so, countries like Spain and Italy are nowhere near as ready to have their citizens allowed to roam freely through other parts of Europe as countries like Denmark, Germany, Austria and Switzerland are, why wait for them, we're all bordering each other. Let the more safe regions open up to each other more and keep tourism from and towards the still heavily effected regions wait longer.
Also France simply has no business imho with Germany and Switzerland opening up to each other.

Seems you would be surprised if you would know that residents of Italy are freely roaming Switzerland and residents of Switzerland are freely roaming Austria. And residents of Croatia are freely roaming Germany, as long as they work there. So your post is completely wrong in deciphering which countries are "clean and safe" and which are just a "bunch of dirty sick people". You cannot force your personal nationalistic preferences into facts
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Seems you would be surprised if you would know that residents of Italy are freely roaming Switzerland and residents of Switzerland are freely roaming Austria. And residents of Croatia are freely roaming Germany, as long as they work there. So your post is completely wrong in deciphering which countries are "clean and safe" and which are just a "bunch of dirty sick people". You cannot force your personal nationalistic preferences into facts
What kind of dumb trollish rubbish did I just read?

Going to wash my eyes, they spontaneously have started to hurt from the shit you threw at them.
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Travel had been possible, being allowed into the country is a different story.
I like that one.

So holidays in the plane? Three weeks Qatar - I personally wouldn't put up with three weeks Easy Jet but I guess that's a matter of taste, some Mallorca tourists might disagree with me.
Should be cheaper than a boat cruise, no? Kerosine is tax free.
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