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Old 15.05.2020, 18:33
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Root canal treatment with my local dentist in France interrupted due to Covid on 16.o3. Dentist sent me a letter to resume treatment on Wednesday - with the mention that it is an emergency due to infection. Went early just in case- French border guard said no-one from Switzerland is allowed to enter unless essential job and life-threatening emergencies. Asked me to wait at the side so he could phone dentist. No reply as it was their lunch-break- so was kept waiting. Then said he had spoken to receptionist- and was not sure my treatment was a true emergency. He commented 'but you can chew on the other side, no?'. I said 'yes' and he replied 'well, there you are, not an emergency. I shall phone back to speak to the dentist' - after another 10 mins he came back and said the dentist said infection could lead to life threatening septicimia, so I could go. Had to wait 25 mins of questionning!

On return, was stopped by Swiss border guards and was questionned re where I had been and why, and where I was going. And asked to show my papers- because they would let me go home just around the corner. This is a small border post- Swiss side is checked 24/7 - French side day time only from about 9-9.30. My next appointment is very early am!

So easy, it is not.
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Old 15.05.2020, 19:00
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Root canal treatment with my local dentist in France interrupted due to Covid on 16.o3. Dentist sent me a letter to resume treatment on Wednesday - with the mention that it is an emergency due to infection. Went early just in case- French border guard said no-one from Switzerland is allowed to enter unless essential job and life-threatening emergencies. Asked me to wait at the side so he could phone dentist. No reply as it was their lunch-break- so was kept waiting. Then said he had spoken to receptionist- and was not sure my treatment was a true emergency. He commented 'but you can chew on the other side, no?'. I said 'yes' and he replied 'well, there you are, not an emergency. I shall phone back to speak to the dentist' - after another 10 mins he came back and said the dentist said infection could lead to life threatening septicimia, so I could go. Had to wait 25 mins of questionning!

On return, was stopped by Swiss border guards and was questionned re where I had been and why, and where I was going. And asked to show my papers- because they would let me go home just around the corner. This is a small border post- Swiss side is checked 24/7 - French side day time only from about 9-9.30. My next appointment is very early am!

So easy, it is not.
Luckily nothing like that on VD/GE side. From my experience only Bardonex and Ferney are manned on the French side, the rest are completely free to enter France with no control. Even during "lockdown" in France I went 3 times and there were more people on the streets than in Switzerland.

Entry into CH is always controlled but rarely questions are asked, only residence is checked.
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Root canal treatment with my local dentist in France interrupted due to Covid on 16.o3. Dentist sent me a letter to resume treatment on Wednesday - with the mention that it is an emergency due to infection. Went early just in case- French border guard said no-one from Switzerland is allowed to enter unless essential job and life-threatening emergencies. Asked me to wait at the side so he could phone dentist. No reply as it was their lunch-break- so was kept waiting. Then said he had spoken to receptionist- and was not sure my treatment was a true emergency. He commented 'but you can chew on the other side, no?'. I said 'yes' and he replied 'well, there you are, not an emergency. I shall phone back to speak to the dentist' - after another 10 mins he came back and said the dentist said infection could lead to life threatening septicimia, so I could go. Had to wait 25 mins of questionning!

On return, was stopped by Swiss border guards and was questionned re where I had been and why, and where I was going. And asked to show my papers- because they would let me go home just around the corner. This is a small border post- Swiss side is checked 24/7 - French side day time only from about 9-9.30. My next appointment is very early am!

So easy, it is not.

If it really was an emergency then you could have gone to a Swiss dentist too. Visiting a dentist in another country is the same as cross-border shopping.
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Well not really, sorry. If it was a new treatment, your comment would stand. As it was, the treatment had started with that dentist early march- with xrays taken, etc- and then interrupted due to Covid. The french dentist is much closer to the Swiss one too. So yes, if I had not been able to go through- I would have had to go to the nearest Swiss one and have more x-rays, etc, to avoid severe infection. Imprints taken and crown will be fitted very early am next week.

I am amazed about V__'s comment- as the French border guards also work at the other more major borders in Vaud- like the one in Ballaigues. I am sure exactly the same would happen there- as was confirmed by Swiss border guards are talked to aobut my 'adventure' (neighbours).
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I am amazed about V__'s comment- as the French border guards also work at the other more major borders in Vaud- like the one in Ballaigues. I am sure exactly the same would happen there- as was confirmed by Swiss border guards are talked to aobut my 'adventure' (neighbours).
Yeah you should believe the border guards

(photo I took of a line at the French post going way back the building at St Julian Genevois on 30th of April, during "lockdown")
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Rarely see any French border guards when we go over to Pontarlier. Very occasionally there might be one or two, but more often than not the booths are empty both going and coming back. I assume they've been more active since the lockdown, but not crossing the border can't say for sure.
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You are right- but since the lockdown it has all changed- Swiss side 24/7 day and night- French side- around 'normal' working hours (eg not at night apart from patrols). The other day was my fist attempt since lockdown- as I knew they are being very strict. French hairdresser who works here in our village told me today that she has to stop and show her frontalier pass every single day- and was not allowed to cross at all until last week as not essential key worker.
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does this mean that as per 15 June I would be able to come to Switzerland for job interview and also apply for a job permit?
Depends on where you come from, your profile just says "eu".

As of tomorrow the borders between Austria, Germany, and Switzerland (presumably including Liechtenstein) are again partially open. Perhaps I should say: officially. Because the double border fence between Kreuzlingen and Konstanz is being removed, according to Tagesanzeiger, that may mean that border checks will soon be at best perfunctory.

Officially accepted reasons include visiting family, relatives, and taking part in important family festivities, but also visiting your OH (Lebenspartner).
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does this mean that as per 15 June I would be able to come to Switzerland for job interview and also apply for a job permit?
Depends from which country.

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Old 17.05.2020, 22:37
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Re: Border closure - Covid 19

Friends just came back tonight from a long weekend in Croatia, no issues on entering Italy and Slovenia, rather nice drive as not a lot of traffic. The only controls are when entering Switzerland, checking residency

Long weekend here we come
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I am trying my summer ti/yres change just across the German border again tomorrow morning.

According to this, my chances might be higher.
https://www.focus.de/reisen/service/..._11728725.html

Will report back.
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Friends just came back tonight from a long weekend in Croatia, no issues on entering Italy and Slovenia, rather nice drive as not a lot of traffic. The only controls are when entering Switzerland, checking residency

Long weekend here we come
Any idea what border they crossed in Italy? Was it the road from Gottardo to Milan?
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Old 18.05.2020, 08:49
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Any idea what border they crossed in Italy? Was it the road from Gottardo to Milan?
No, Simplon.
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I am trying my summer ti/yres change just across the German border again tomorrow morning.

According to this, my chances might be higher.
https://www.focus.de/reisen/service/..._11728725.html

Will report back.
Yeah... No.

Got told that I can cross only for doctor's appointment and work.
Didn't point out the article above to the officer, but have no clue what's that about then.
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The article you linked to does clearly state: "wegen Einkaufen nicht erlaubt" (not allowed for shopping), so I'd think that getting tyres changed is in that category.

Thanks for coming back to tell us about your experience.
I don't see it as shopping / purchase of goods (as those are already my wheels and tyres awaiting me there), but rather paying for a service to ensure road safety.
But open to individual interpretation I suppose.
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I don't see it as shopping / purchase of goods (as those are already my wheels and tyres awaiting me there), but rather paying for a service to ensure road safety.
But open to individual interpretation I suppose.
Did you go to a main crossing? Try a small one, most of the small crossings into FR are not controlled (only when entering back CH)
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Did you go to a main crossing? Try a small one, most of the small crossings into FR are not controlled (only when entering back CH)
It's Germany, not France, and I don't really want to "hide" or do something disallowed.

I went to the one connecting to highway, but I am sure the one directly to Weil am Rhein is manned properly too, due to all the usual cross-border shoppers (in Rheincenter) that would enter there if it weren't.
Perhaps I can try another one next week - playing a bit of pingpong scheduling dates with my garage these days.
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ASitUS's link is broken. Try this one:
https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...1%20May%202020

From that page, the relevant bit in red:


and:



It sounds like she needs to be dependent upon you AND you need prior approval of a residence permit from the canton. Simply rocking up at the border won't cut it.
Quick update on this - submitted all the paperwork to my local Gemeinde yesterday, and then emailed them some additional paperwork they asked for (insurance documenation from the UK), and received a "Meldebestätigung für Hauptwohnsitz" a few hours later (pdf by email). They also called to apologize, that as this is a short week, the cantonal amt will probably not process it until next week, but they will submit it today as "urgent".

I was stunned by the speed, efficiency and individuality of the service. I truly expected a UK style impersonal service, slowed down by COVID. Instead this was truly impressive.

Now to figure out if the Meldebestätigung für Hauptwohnsitz is enough to cross the border, or if I need to wait for something else from the cantonal amt fur Migration und Integration...

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tomorrow's dental appointment to fit the crown is at dawn to beat the French border guards. All the border crossings here are currently wo/manned- 24/7 on Swiss side, office hours on French side.
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