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Re: Travelling across the German or French border for shopping

Travelling to Bayern, ie Lindau for shopping is also possible. Same as BaWü, no longer than 24 hours
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Die Bayerische Staatsregierung hat entschieden, den sogenannten «kleinen Grenzverkehr» für Menschen aus ausländischen Corona-Risikogebieten ohne Quarantänepflicht wieder zu erlauben, also etwa Fahrten zum Einkaufen, für Arztbesuche oder für die Versorgung von Tieren im Nachbarland. Demzufolge dürfen Menschen aus ausländischen Corona-Risikogebieten im Rahmen des kleinen Grenzverkehrs ab sofort wieder für Tagesbesuche bis zu 24 Stunden Dauer in Bayern einreisen, ohne umgehend in Quarantäne zu müssen. Das bayerische Gesundheitsministerium ruft jedoch dazu auf, auf unnötige Reisen zu verzichten und Kontakte wo immer möglich zu beschränken

See here https://www.landkreis-lindau.de/Bürg...z-Auswirkungen
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Old 23.11.2020, 19:56
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..... Told him at had just under 1 kg of meat- and 83 Euros of shopping. He asked if I was sure about only 1kg and I said yes, 100% sure. Asked me to park at side and went through the bags and checked the two packs of meat- 98 gr- and waved me off.
I bet he was mumbling "an other woman who can't estimate"
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Got stopped both ways. Asked for the 'attestation' at the FRench border- it has to be time and dated btw, and this was checked.
Good to confirm that they're accepting it. When we were in France for lockdown 1 we were checked two of three times by the gendarmerie, but will far haven't been stopped over from here.

The Swiss Douanes do sometimes check us on the way back, but it's not systematic, e.g. if they're there when we cross to France they're always give by the time we get back. Never had more than a cursory look at the shipping, except one time when we had a new wood stove in the back of the Landover, which they presumably thought would take us over the 300 Franc limit, but we had the receipt for 299 euro so they are happy enough.
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Old 23.11.2020, 20:06
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Good to confirm that they're accepting it. When we were in France for lockdown 1 we were checked two of three times by the gendarmerie, but will far haven't been stopped over from here.

The Swiss Douanes do sometimes check us on the way back, but it's not systematic, e.g. if they're there when we cross to France they're always give by the time we get back. Never had more than a cursory look at the shipping, except one time when we had a new wood stove in the back of the Landover, which they presumably thought would take us over the 300 Franc limit, but we had the receipt for 299 euro so they are happy enough.
Is it me or are Euro 299.00 more than sFr. 300.00? And if I'm wrong, when did that happen? Could it be Swiss Nationalbank is overdoing this "deflate the Swiss Frank thing" a bit?
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Old 23.11.2020, 20:51
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Is it me or are Euro 299.00 more than sFr. 300.00? And if I'm wrong, when did that happen? Could it be Swiss Nationalbank is overdoing this "deflate the Swiss Frank thing" a bit?
It might've been a bit less, and it was a couple of years ago so the exchange rate might have been closed to parity, but there were two of us in the car anyway.
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Old 23.11.2020, 21:13
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I bet he was mumbling "an other woman who can't estimate"

oops typo - 998 gr
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Old 23.11.2020, 21:41
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Is it me or are Euro 299.00 more than sFr. 300.00? And if I'm wrong, when did that happen? Could it be Swiss Nationalbank is overdoing this "deflate the Swiss Frank thing" a bit?
Along time ago when € 1 was around CHF 1.19 as the net amount minus foreign VAT or sales tax is relevant.
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Technically you are supposed to print out and fill in a copy of the current french form explaining why you're out and about on french territory, without one you risk a €135 fine.
In reality it's probably okay, I've crossed the franco-swiss border several times since the beginning of this lockdown and not seen anyone checking up.
The shops are quieter simply because the swiss are being everso slightly more cautious about venturing across the border!
I've been using the digital "attestation" for my phone - it's a lot easier than printing things out. So I do have something to show any gendarme who can be bothered to stop me.
Haven't seen anyone checking anyway though.
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Re: Travelling across the German or French border for shopping

Basically, you never know what will happen. Often there won't be anyone there, on either side. Sometimes if there is someone, they ignore you as they are chatting or wave you off. Other times, they are bored, or have a tip off, or are feeling zealous, or .... whatever. And they will want to check and ask you to park at the side. And other times, there is no-one at the border- but they are just down the road (around here 3 favourite places with parking, 1 km from border, 1 2.5 km from border, and 1 about 2 km from border. And when not at border or other road side posts, they patrol all the smaller mountain roads people with a bit, or a lot, extra- had got used to take.
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Old 27.11.2020, 23:27
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Ba.-Wü. https://www.google.ch/maps/place/Bad...,+Deutschland/
Bayern begins at Lindau which on the shore of the Lake Constance near Bregenz.

Baden-Württemberg compared to Switzerland:
Population: 11 Mio. vs. 8.5 Mio
Size: 35'751 km² vs. 41'285 km²
Largest City: Stuttgart, population 634,830 vs. Zurich population 402,762
Highest point: Feldberg 1493 meters vs. Dufourspitze 4634 meters.
GDP: €496.2 billions vs. € 639 billions
Largest lake: Lake Constance vs. Lake Geneva
Known for: Cuckoo clocks, Black Forrest cake, Mercedes, Porsche vs. Cuckoo clocks, Fondue, Banking, and Neutrality.
pheew, that was a lot of answer to a short question
Rules of Baden Würtenberg it is then.
Still, I think I'll stay away until January. Corona and Christmas time is simply too much trouble when shopping.
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Is it me or are Euro 299.00 more than sFr. 300.00? And if I'm wrong, when did that happen? Could it be Swiss Nationalbank is overdoing this "deflate the Swiss Frank thing" a bit?
It’s something €270 per person now. They have had notes on the counter windows in Konstanz for a while now. For those who don’t know it you can avoid the border queues and get your papers stamped by the German customs nr the Bodensee Forum. If you need Swiss customs then you have to go via the main border.

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Re: Border closure - Covid 19

The borders have been closed (with no 24-hours exception) since December 23rd. Do we have any information on a potential re-opening date?
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The borders have been closed (with no 24-hours exception) since December 23rd. Do we have any information on a potential re-opening date?
Which country are you referring to?

Border with Germany are closed for shopping. Can still travel to BW for family reasons, medical appointments etc,
Border with France is still open.

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The borders have been closed (with no 24-hours exception) since December 23rd. Do we have any information on a potential re-opening date?
Really, where to/from?

I am planning to go to Germany next week and although Eurowings has no flights until February you can get on a train today.
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Old 07.01.2021, 12:12
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Re: Border closure - Covid 19

The border is not closed in Germany. The 24 hr shopping rule for BW has been scrapped, yes.


But you can still fly in, just be aware that you need to quarantine. Not sure if the rule of having a negative PCR test has been implemented yet.
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Old 07.01.2021, 14:51
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Which country are you referring to?

Border with Germany are closed for shopping. Can still travel to BW for family reasons, medical appointments etc,
Border with France is still open.
Does anyone know if it's possible to goto Germany to pickup mail from Swiss-Paket?
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Does anyone know if it's possible to goto Germany to pickup mail from Swiss-Paket?
Probably not allowed I would expect. You can always call the border and ask?
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Does anyone know if it's possible to goto Germany to pickup mail from Swiss-Paket?
It’s fine if you can prove that you placed the order before December 22nd when the new restrictions were introduced.
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Re: Border closure - Covid 19

I went this week by bicycle to pick up 5 packages (small items). If you can do it via pedestrian bridge across the river there is no border control, zero. If you are going to do this by car you might be stopped on the way back, but I cannot imagine what action CH border enforcement would take on you if it is a German law that forbids you to shop?
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Does anyone know if it's possible to goto Germany to pickup mail from Swiss-Paket?

After internal consultation, we can inform you that, within the framework of the current legal situation according to the Corona regulation entry quarantine in the country, collecting parcels from SWISS PAKET is not a stay for tourist purposes or for shopping in accordance with Section 2 (2) No. 1 CoronaVO EQ applies. People who only go to SWISS PAKET in Baden-Württemberg to pick up their parcel can continue to do so for a maximum of 24 hours in the country without having to comply with the quarantine obligation after entry. However, this only applies to the border cantons: Appenzell (Innerrhoden, Ausserrhoden) St. Gallen Thurgau Zurich Schaffhausen Aargau Basel city Basel-Country law Solothurn With best regards Konstantin Eisel Ministry of Social Affairs and Integration Baden-Wuerttemberg
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