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Travelling across the German or French border for shopping

Does anyone have a definitive position on whether it is possible to go across the border from Switzerland into Konstanz or from say Basel into St Louis, France to do shopping.

The Bundesrat advice doesn't seem clear.
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Old 09.11.2020, 13:50
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Re: Travelling across the German or French border for shopping

Depending on the Kanton you´re from, you still can go shopping in Germany. Just do not stay longer than 24 hrs
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Re: Travelling across the German or French border for shopping

Not in that area at the moment, but the border here between Morgins and Chatel is open with no restrictions. and no more Douanes presence thean normal (i.e. very rarely anyone there).

I've taken the required "attestation" with me when crossing, but never been checked.
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Re: Travelling across the German or French border for shopping

No conditions with respect to the Swiss authorities. In France you are subject to the conditions applying to residents in France, notably the need to have the infamous "attestation" and to be able to check at least one of the relevant check-boxes, in principle shopping for essential goods.
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Re: Travelling across the German or French border for shopping

Crossed the Singen border to Germany last Saturday and no issues at all.. I saw lots of CH cars coming in from Germany back to Switzerland and also some getting the tax refund stamps.

Business as usual
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Re: Travelling across the German or French border for shopping

We went to Germany on Friday, and the border guards were checking cars from Bern and Solothurn. We've heard rumours that if you're not from a border canton you'll be turned back, but have seen no evidence.
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Re: Travelling across the German or French border for shopping

Thanks that's really good news
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We went to Germany on Friday, and the border guards were checking cars from Bern and Solothurn. We've heard rumours that if you're not from a border canton you'll be turned back, but have seen no evidence.
I had NE plates, no issues whatsoever.
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Re: Travelling across the German or French border for shopping

We went to Germany through the Weil-am-Rhein border on Saturday early afternoon and had no issues going in or coming back. In fact, there were no systematic checks of cars entering Germany and when we passed a German police car on the autobahn with our SO plates there was no reaction.

Even getting our mehrwertsteuer stamped didn't solicit a reaction from the German or Swiss guards.
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Re: Travelling across the German or French border for shopping

No problem in Rheinfelden on Saturday or St Margrethen on Sunday.
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Re: Travelling across the German or French border for shopping

Borders are open. For France you'll an approved reason but shopping for food is one and the supermarkets are open, just don't plan on going for a walk etc as well. Then you'll need the signed statement ("attestation"). Here's Gex sub-prefect Benoît Huber speaking to Le Messager last week (my translation):
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Swiss citizens can enter French territory if they meet the conditions of the signed statement. In concrete terms, they can come and do their shopping...
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Re: Travelling across the German or French border for shopping

Does anyone know what the rules are on transiting through France by car (without stopping for anything more than petrol/toilet breaks) to go to another country? During the spring lockdown, I think there was a form to fill in that covered this case, but I have not been able to find anything on French government/embassy websites that mentions it this time.
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Borders are open.
Not the Italian border.

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Does anyone know what the rules are on transiting through France by car (without stopping for anything more than petrol/toilet breaks) to go to another country? During the spring lockdown, I think there was a form to fill in that covered this case, but I have not been able to find anything on French government/embassy websites that mentions it this time.
You are OK if you have the attestation mentioned above. Having Ferry/Tickets or Hotel Reservations to hand that likely will help, but is not required.
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Does anyone know what the rules are on transiting through France by car (without stopping for anything more than petrol/toilet breaks) to go to another country? During the spring lockdown, I think there was a form to fill in that covered this case, but I have not been able to find anything on French government/embassy websites that mentions it this time.
You can do this and need a statement but will have to do a DIY version (look up "attestation sur l'honneur" for templates) stating where you came from, where you're going, the time, route etc and this ought to work but as it's not as official if you get a gendarme in a bad mood things could be awkward.
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You can do this and need a statement but will have to do a DIY version (look up "attestation sur l'honneur" for templates) stating where you came from, where you're going, the time, route etc and this ought to work but as it's not as official if you get a gendarme in a bad mood things could be awkward.
This is still very unclear to me. Within 3 lines of each other on a French government site, I have found these two contradictory statements (bold type is mine):

If you are arriving from a country on the list below (the list is EU countries + Switzerland), you can enter metropolitan France without any COVID-19 restrictions.

You can only enter France if your journey meets one of the following criteria for exceptions: If you are a European Union citizen or a national of Andorra, the Holy See, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Monaco, Norway, San Marino, Switzerland or the United Kingdom, and your main residence is in France or you are crossing France to reach your country of nationality or residence (you may be accompanied by your spouse and children)

Source: https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/co...als-in-france/

Edit: but maybe I have misunderstood... the second statement applies to EU/CH nationals who are arriving from a non-EU/CH country, in which case it's not contradictory.

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Re: Travelling across the German or French border for shopping

We have just went to Singen - Germany on 16.11 (Monday) without any problem.
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Re: Travelling across the German or French border for shopping

I've been into France 4 times and have yet to see a border guard or a French gendarme. Shopping much quieter and easier than usual.
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Re: Travelling across the German or French border for shopping

Rent a van yesterday to go and pick up some mattresses in France we had ordered before lock down. Took attestations with us, but no-one at Swiss border or French border on way out, no-one at French border on return- and about 20 border guards at the Swiss border- but no issue. We able to do the 'détaxe' there and then. Learnt later from neighbour that the unusual large number of guards on Swiss side was as the new boss was visiting.
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I've been into France 4 times and have yet to see a border guard or a French gendarme. Shopping much quieter and easier than usual.
Technically you are supposed to print out and fill in a copy of the current french form explaining why you're out and about on french territory, without one you risk a €135 fine.
In reality it's probably okay, I've crossed the franco-swiss border several times since the beginning of this lockdown and not seen anyone checking up.
The shops are quieter simply because the swiss are being everso slightly more cautious about venturing across the border!
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