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that coop on bahnofbrucke zurich

isnt that coop funny, the one in zurich on bahnofbrucke. it's right in the centre of an area that probably these days is a very controlled zone when it comes to new architecture, but i guess not so much when that coop was built coz it looks a bit ... well l dunno like something made for an out of town retail park

coop must have powerful friends to get away with looking like a barn on a barge in the centre of glamour zurich.

does anyone know when it was built by any chance?
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Re: that coop on bahnofbrucke zurich

It is known as the "Globus-Provisorium" (I take it, your German is superbe by now ), it was built 1960 to be a provisional building for 8 years. Logic tells me to house Globus for a while.
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Re: that coop on bahnofbrucke zurich

That's is no Coop. This is a Globus. A temporary Globus to speak of - The Globus Provisorium. A provisional building which was built when they built the new Globus at the Bahnhofstrasse where Globus was inside an old School building. No coincidence that a statue of Heinrich Pestalozzi is in front of the new Globus (it was also one of the many execution places of Zurich, others are for example at the Freibad Letzi or the Schulhaus Kornhaus). As the old Globus Provisorium is now permanent it is what is known as a "Providurium". Yes, in Switzerland even temporary structures are made to last several decades and there are now even discussion if it should become a "Listed building".

Btw. this building and the Rote Fabrik in Wollishofen share some common history.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globuskrawall
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papierwerd
https://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/ted/de/...zi-anlage.html
https://www.uzh.ch/cosmov/edition/ssl-dir/V4/
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Re: that coop on bahnofbrucke zurich

That's nothing compared to the stalls on Rathausbrücke.

The buildings on both sides are old architecture, very well kept etc, and the stalls look like they're some sort of portable thing for festivals, or something you'd expect to find in a trucking carpark.
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Re: that coop on bahnofbrucke zurich

For me one of the ugliest places in Zurich is Bucheggplatz!
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Re: that coop on bahnofbrucke zurich

Doing a little research on the "Globus-Kravalle" in 1968 (which were partly about that building as the youth wanted it to be turned into a youth club), I came across this:



Riots were so much more fun in the old days.

And somehow I was reminded of one of the first posts by ZurichLuck.
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Re: that coop on bahnofbrucke zurich

i have to say, what an interesting story! who would have thought it.

tbh maybe getting rid of it would be a huge waste even tho it doesnt look great. i mean, it would be such a waste of time and effort despite it having a very important function. getting rid of it would probably count as OCD, and i think ive changed my mind about it now.

i love those old photographs of the city around and about on the digital advertising screens here and there. i was looking at the screen atlimmatplatz i think, of the hongerburg, from 100 years ago. it was almost completely empty, all there was were a few massive mansions on the way to the church.
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Doing a little research on the "Globus-Kravalle" in 1968 (which were partly about that building as the youth wanted it to be turned into a youth club), I came across this:



Riots were so much more fun in the old days.

And somehow I was reminded of one of the first posts by ZurichLuck.


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i love those old photographs of the city around and about on the digital advertising screens here and there. i was looking at the screen atlimmatplatz i think, of the hongerburg, from 100 years ago. it was almost completely empty, all there was were a few massive mansions on the way to the church.
Zurich 1504 https://www.e-rara.ch/zuz/content/zoom/8645121 (The Book to the map https://www.e-rara.ch/zut/content/zoom/8081311)
Zurich 1576 https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murerplan
Zurich 1705 https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...uerich1705.jpg
Zurich 1793 https://www.maps.stadt-zuerich.ch/zu...C3%BCrich+1793
Zurich 1885 https://www.maps.stadt-zuerich.ch/zu...riedkarte+1885
Zurich 1900 https://www.maps.stadt-zuerich.ch/zu...orische+Bilder (Hint: Click on the red dots !)

A nice little website showing some of Zurich past (which no longer exists)
https://alt-zueri.ch/turicum/
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That's nothing compared to the stalls on Rathausbrücke.

The buildings on both sides are old architecture, very well kept etc, and the stalls look like they're some sort of portable thing for festivals, or something you'd expect to find in a trucking carpark.
This one is expected/planned to be reconstructed.
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Re: that coop on bahnofbrucke zurich

I talked to a really old retired professor from ETH the other day, he told me his father used to commute in horse-drawn trams back in 1885... more than 100 years before I was born. Somehow I imagined a very long tram pulled by poor exhausted horses and then he said noooo trams were much shorter...
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The Rösslitram.
https://www.tagblattzuerich.ch/aktue...anz-unten.html
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amazing photos!

i saw an great photo of these Rosslitram, probably it was on the screen at bellevue altho i cant remember. it was just great. the bellevue building was in it, and it was a hotel i think, it must have been quite new then. there was a horse drawn tram heading towards the bridge

the best thing is, all the men in these old photos are wearing hats. doing so was quite the rage! and tbh not exactly hats in styles that have stood the test of time i have to say. altho only the other day i saw a fellow in a bowler hat believe it or not. as it happens tho, i didnt think '1920s bellevue gentleman', i thought 'clockwork orange'.
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Heres how it looked last century. One can see the old Globus

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Heres how it looked last century. One can see the old Globus

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There is a website solely dedicated to the history of the Papierwerd:
http://www.papierwerd.ch/

https://www.hochparterre.ch/nachrich...ng/1517577481/
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Re: that coop on bahnofbrucke zurich

If you google, there is a bunch of interesting information about the Globus Provisorium:

Tagi (30.09.2020):
  • Was a theme for the Zürich city and state councils
  • The city wants to start a strategic process to define future use.
  • The city needs a concession from the state for the water rights and requested this up to the end of 2030. The existing consession expires end of 2020.
  • COOP's rental agreement is until the end of 2024.
  • There is discussion that it will be deemed by the Denkmalschutz as historically relevant and must be preserved (it was designed by Karl Egender, the same architect who designed the Hallenstadion).
  • In 2018, the city considered tearing it down and replacing it with a park (there is a picture of how the park could look in the tagi article.).

An NZZ article from 02.04.2020. Registration required.
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