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01.12.2020, 17:34
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| | Re: Swiss policeman's bad attitude | Quote: | |  | | | I was hurt by the policeman's attitude, such as expressions and gestures, not words. | | | | | from behind a 'blindfold', over a distance in a language you don't understand?
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01.12.2020, 17:37
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| | Re: Swiss policeman's bad attitude
Thanks for the advice.
I reflect on my attitude of condemning all of the Swiss police officers.
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01.12.2020, 17:40
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| | Re: Swiss policeman's bad attitude | Quote: | |  | | | I was hurt by the policeman's attitude, such as expressions and gestures, not words. | | | | | I would like to understand, but this is the part that I genuinely do not understand.
Perhaps this is matter of your language usage, and I am trying to understand what bothered you. Or perhaps it is a matter of personality. For myself, I
doubt that I would feel hurt if a policemen shouted or gesticulated at me, as I drove past him.
What was it, exactly, that hurt you? Did he perhaps threaten you, or harm you in some way?
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01.12.2020, 17:42
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| | Re: Swiss policeman's bad attitude
Thank you.
I will read this well.
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01.12.2020, 17:53
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| | Re: Swiss policeman's bad attitude | Quote: | |  | | | I still don't know what's wrong with carrying a child on an electric scooter. | | | | | Not quite clear what you mean with "electric scooter".
Is it the vehicle you stand on or is it the one you sit on?
If it is a sit on, did the child reach the foot rest/floor board?
Did you ride on the side walk or on the street?
Did you check if the light is functioning?
Are you sure he did not shout "Huere Affengeil!" ?
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01.12.2020, 18:10
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| | Re: Swiss policeman's bad attitude | Quote: | |  | | | On a second thought, this is how things are back home. If you're son of X, brother of Y, or part of social group Z police needs to treat you with kid gloves. Otherwise they're reprimanded for treating the beautiful people like one from the underclass. I guess describing a police as a moron with a high school diploma reveals a bit about this. How the guy from the lower class dares to talk to me like that? They don't know their place anymore. | | | | | They are mostly morons with HS diplomas, that is why they join the police in a first place. It is unfortunately commonplace in most countries.
Many people r eager to normalize unprofessional behavior from law enforcement. Coming up with excuses and explanation how all of this is your fault. If only you were more obedient then police would not have to yell....etc, ect.
Police should be held to a much higher standards of courtesy and professionalism in a society that moved beyond post feudal Lord-Peasant dynamics. After all we outsource violence to the government and police are the public servants that are allowed to carry out such violence at their own discretion.
Asking to be better professionals from police seems logical, but here I see most still maintain slavish attitude to authority even when such authority abuses its power. Pathetic , but not unexpected.
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01.12.2020, 18:17
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| | Re: Swiss policeman's bad attitude | Quote: | |  | | | They are mostly morons with HS diplomas, that is why they join the police in a first place. | | | | | Most jobs anywhere do not require anything beyond a HS diploma.
Tom
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01.12.2020, 18:21
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| | I want to know the laws related to electric scooter use.
What I know about electric scooter operation is as follows.
It is possible to drive at a speed of 20 km or less on the bicycle road.
helmet is recommended, but it is not mandatory, and if you are over 16 years old, you can drive without a license.
Q
1. Is it mandatory to wear a helmet?
2. Can I carry children (6 years old, wearing a helmet)?
3. Can I go to the pedestrian path?
4. Should I only go by bike path?
I am most confused as to whether the electric scooter can take the pedestrian path.
I too know the dangers of carrying children on electric scooters.
But what I want to know is the law.
I am not asking for a guess.
In fact, I feel that it is safer to put a child in front of an electric scooter and drive it at a speed of less than 10 km/h than to ride it in the back seat of a bicycle.
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01.12.2020, 18:23
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| | Re: Swiss policeman's bad attitude
What’s a HS diploma?
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01.12.2020, 18:23
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| | Re: I want to know the laws related to electric scooter use.
The links for the relevant laws have already been given to you in your other thread. https://www.englishforum.ch/daily-li...-attitude.html | The following 4 users would like to thank Medea Fleecestealer for this useful post: | | 
01.12.2020, 18:23
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| | Re: I want to know the laws related to electric scooter use.
Define electric scooter.
Tom
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01.12.2020, 18:26
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| | Re: Swiss policeman's bad attitude | Quote: | |  | | | What’s a HS diploma? | | | | | High school diploma, basically the same level as an apprenticeship.
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01.12.2020, 18:28
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| | Re: Swiss policeman's bad attitude | Quote: | |  | | | What’s a HS diploma? | | | | | High School I guess.
And Tom is wrong, most jobs do. Only here many people get their education via apprenticeships, some of them pretty demanding.
Next time somebody patronizes a hairdresser: Did you study as much about chemistry and cross-reactions as a Swiss hairdresser does?
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01.12.2020, 18:34
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| | Re: Swiss policeman's bad attitude | Quote: | |  | | | High school diploma, basically the same level as an apprenticeship.
Tom | | | | | Thanks.
I know in Romandie you need at least a CFC to go to police school which is the apprenticeship qualification.
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01.12.2020, 18:37
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| | Re: Swiss policeman's bad attitude | Quote: | |  | | | Most jobs anywhere do not require anything beyond a HS diploma. 
Tom | | | | | On paper, sadly they do - intellectually and skill set wise, no - you are absolutely correct.
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| | Re: Swiss policeman's bad attitude | Quote: | |  | | | Thanks.
I know in Romandie you need at least a CFC to go to police school which is the apprenticeship qualification. | | | | | My daughter's CFC was considered equivalent to a HS diploma when she moved to the US for 5 years, now she working on her second CFC.
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| | Re: I want to know the laws related to electric scooter use. | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | Thanks, I've merged to keep the answers together.
@sungtae - You still haven't answered the question. What do you mean by electric scooter? Is it the one you sit on or the one you stand on?
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01.12.2020, 18:41
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| | Re: Swiss policeman's bad attitude
seconding an earlier post,
i've had quite a lot of interaction with police in switzerland (at least in Ticino) and have without exception found them to be helpful, respectful, polite and efficient.
the complete opposite of pretty much every 'police encounter' i've had in a long list of other countries (top of the list - the US but also, UK, italy, russia, various african countries).
the only other country that came close (albeit from a sample of 1) was germany.
I put it down to the fact that they are sufficiently well paid to have self respect and take their obligations seriously.
I obviously need to arrange some police encounter in korea - they are clearly the measuring stick to which all police should be compared... (@suntae - north or south???)
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01.12.2020, 18:44
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| | Re: Swiss policeman's bad attitude | Quote: | |  | | | They are mostly morons with HS diplomas, that is why they join the police in a first place. ...... | | | | |
They know the laws and they write the fines.
I must be an outrageously clever and overly educated person. I never even meet them.
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01.12.2020, 18:49
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| | Re: Swiss policeman's bad attitude
Italian cops have always been fine as well.
They once had me sit in the front of the cop car with a machine gun at my feet, alone!
Tom
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