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Old 01.12.2020, 18:51
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Re: Swiss policeman's bad attitude

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Italian cops have always been fine as well.

They once had me sit in the front of the cop car with a machine gun at my feet, alone!

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ROFL. Maybe that were the morons OP was talking about?
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ROFL. Maybe that were the morons OP was talking about?
or maybe they were just sick of him saying everything is better in Ticino.
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Old 01.12.2020, 19:02
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Re: I want to know the laws related to electric scooter use.

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What I know about electric scooter operation is as follows.

It is possible to drive at a speed of 20 km or less on the bicycle road.
helmet is recommended, but it is not mandatory, and if you are over 16 years old, you can drive without a license.

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1. Is it mandatory to wear a helmet?
2. Can I carry children (6 years old, wearing a helmet)?
3. Can I go to the pedestrian path?
4. Should I only go by bike path?

I am most confused as to whether the electric scooter can take the pedestrian path.

I too know the dangers of carrying children on electric scooters.
But what I want to know is the law.
I am not asking for a guess.

In fact, I feel that it is safer to put a child in front of an electric scooter and drive it at a speed of less than 10 km/h than to ride it in the back seat of a bicycle.
Hello sungtae.

The detailed answers are found here : https://www.englishforum.ch/transpor...ter-rules.html

Short answers here:

1 - no.

2 - not sure, no laws for this. Neighboring countries such as France have put in the law a limit of 1 person per scooter. Here in CH the only thing clear is than children under 14YO should not use an motorized scooter.

3 - an electric scooter cannot be used on sidewalks or pedestrian paths. The reason is it has a motor, therefore unsafe to pedestrians due to the speed difference between scooter and people walking.

4 - bike paths are an option but on the street along cars is an option too. But the scooter must be street legal meaning it must have a front and rear lights, brakes on both wheels and a bike bell. The problem is only a fraction of scooters sold on CH are street legal, so make sure your scooter is compliant with rules. Otherwise you may only use it on parks. This is a 2019 article in French about how many scooters sold in CH are not street legal. https://www.20min.ch/fr/story/la-plu...s-756211365785

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Old 01.12.2020, 19:48
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Re: I want to know the laws related to electric scooter use.

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What I know about electric scooter operation is as follows.

It is possible to drive at a speed of 20 km or less on the bicycle road.
helmet is recommended, but it is not mandatory, and if you are over 16 years old, you can drive without a license.

Q
1. Is it mandatory to wear a helmet?
2. Can I carry children (6 years old, wearing a helmet)?
3. Can I go to the pedestrian path?
4. Should I only go by bike path?
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https://www.astra.admin.ch/dam/astra...1.02.2019).pdf

https://www.bfu.ch/de/ratgeber/siche...teboard-und-co

Legally those things are "Leicht-Motorfahrräder", the same traffic rules as for regular bicycles apply.

1. No. Art. 3b Abs. 2 lit. e VRV
2. Yes. But only if:
- If the vehicle itself has a designated child seat (up to two are allowed, see for example the popular Kistenvelos).
- Or if the vehicle has a designated seat for disabled person (in that case it does not have to be a child).
- Or if the vehicle has a second set of pedals (in that case it does not have to be a child, however a child must be able to reach the pedals).
- Or if an appropriate child seat has been securely mounted.
Two person on a regular stand-up scooter are hence not allowed, neither children nor adults.
3. No. Pedestrian path and side walk are out of limits unless cycling is explicitly permitted. As said same traffic rules as for bicycles apply. For more information were you are allowed and where you are not allowed see:
Swiss Cycling Rules & Guidance in English?
4. If there is a designated cycle path or lane in your direction of travel you must use it. Otherwise you can use the road like a bicycle. Did I mention that the same traffic rules as for bicycles apply?
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Re: Swiss policeman's bad attitude

Only had a few short experiences with the Police in Switzerland and they were pleasant and courteous.

I go with the ol' standby.. Don't act like a jerk, don't get treated like a jerk.
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