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if you haven't booked and the snow comes in, you'll be very lucky to get onto vereina without a very long wait.
According the the Vereina Tunnel web site, you can not make reservations.
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As far as I see it so far no parts of the rout need chains. The road up to the Vereina Terminal has no restrictions. It is only the part from the terminal to Davos a.k.a Wolfgang Pass which needs chains or the scenic detour over Lenzerheide.
However, having just walked into Klosters village, I can confirm that the only cars able to drive without sliding everywhere are those with chains on. I have rarely seen this much snow.
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Re: Driving from Zurich to St Moritz

Well, I'll hijack a bit the thread. Any recommendations on snow chains?

I'll visit a friend who lives near Davos in a few weeks. His home is like 4-5 km away from the main road. This road is cleaned but not as frequently as the main roads. It's covered by 5 or so cm of snow the whole winter. I drove there last year and I had more fun than I wanted correcting the oversteering the whole way up. The scariest part was where the road crosses a ski track where snow was deep and fluffy....accelerate with conviction but smoothly

I want less excitement this year, any recommendations of snow chains? The tires are 255/40R18, RWD. Just saw these ones in Jumbo, not that expensive, do they work? any experience? https://www.jumbo.ch/de/schneekette-...82?sku=1350159
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I want less excitement this year, any recommendations of snow chains? The tires are 255/40R18, RWD. Just saw these ones in Jumbo, not that expensive, do they work? any experience? https://www.jumbo.ch/de/schneekette-...82?sku=1350159
Tested according Austrian Norm ÖNORM V 5121.
These are not snow chains but just traction aids ("Fahrhilfen") and, at least in Austria, not legal if snow chains are mandated.
https://www.ottinger.de/service/schn...enpflicht.html

If you use textile "chains" look that they have a Swiss approval. Most often from DTC.
https://www.tcs.ch/de/der-tcs/presse...zugelassen.php
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Tested according Austrian Norm ÖNORM V 5121.
These are not snow chains but just traction aids ("Fahrhilfen") and, at least in Austria, not legal if snow chains are mandated.
https://www.ottinger.de/service/schn...enpflicht.html

If you use textile "chains" look that they have a Swiss approval. Most often from DTC.
https://www.tcs.ch/de/der-tcs/presse...zugelassen.php
Thanks a lot for helping me avoid buying non-homologated products...issues with the police in case of Kontroll For everyone else, Autosock Suisse http://mobilitykit.ch/shop/fr/

The car manual says "Die Verwendung ist nur paarwise auf den Hinterrädern mit Reifen der folgenden Grösse zulässig: 255/40R18". I have the right wheels, so I just need a couple socks for the rear wheels and have fun.
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Thanks a lot for helping me avoid buying non-homologated products...issues with the police in case of Kontroll For everyone else, Autosock Suisse http://mobilitykit.ch/shop/fr/
AutoSock are also legal in Italy, and once again the Austrian are a bit particular on this topic.


There seam to be two different kind of Michelin Easy Grip, the "original" and the "Evo/Evolution". The first ones, at least by the marking on the package seam to be o.k. https://www.obi.ch/frostschutz/miche...-k15/p/1366491
The Evo/Evolution only seem to have only the tricolour of France and Italy on the package (As seen on the Galaxus website).

Edit: Looks like on the Jumbo Website, the Easy Grip Evo gave also a nice Swiss Cross.
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Edit2: Looks like since last year there is a new Euro Norm EN16662-1:2020 which defines the performance properties of "snow chains". This norm is apparently technology independent which makes textile products (which met the performance requirements) legal, also in Austria.
https://www.regionews.at/newsdetail/..._(FOTO)-331399
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Re: Driving from Zurich to St Moritz

I re-read the production description of the Michelin Easy Grip Evo https://www.jumbo.ch/de/schneekette-...82?sku=1350159

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the bag includes instructions, gloves and Homologation certificate for CH. I guess that settles the question =)
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Re: Driving from Zurich to St Moritz

Well I think a few people have jinxed me. Pretty heavy snow in the Zurich city centre!
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Well I think a few people have jinxed me. Pretty heavy snow in the Zurich city centre!
Honestly it's unbelievable in the mountains. We had planned to go back up to ZH yesterday from Klosters, but it was impossible and the situation is the same today. If you still intend to come, may I suggest you take a few sensible precautions in case you are caught out. Although they are experts at snow clearance in the mountains it's getting on top of them as the snow is not letting up.
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Honestly it's unbelievable in the mountains. We had planned to go back up to ZH yesterday from Klosters, but it was impossible and the situation is the same today. If you still intend to come, may I suggest you take a few sensible precautions in case you are caught out. Although they are experts at snow clearance in the mountains it's getting on top of them as the snow is not letting up.
What do you mean by impossible? The road Landquart - Klosters appears open, no traffic jams, according to strassen.gr.ch, TCS and Google Maps.

I need to drive to Laax in the afternoon, so wondering how bad it is. 4WD, no chains.
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Honestly it's unbelievable in the mountains. We had planned to go back up to ZH yesterday from Klosters, but it was impossible and the situation is the same today. If you still intend to come, may I suggest you take a few sensible precautions in case you are caught out. Although they are experts at snow clearance in the mountains it's getting on top of them as the snow is not letting up.
I have a bottle of excellent whiskey with me to break open in case of emergency. Not sure what else I can prepare for. I just hope the rental place has chains when I pick it up this afternoon....
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What do you mean by impossible? The road Landquart - Klosters appears open, no traffic jams, according to strassen.gr.ch, TCS and Google Maps.

I need to drive to Laax in the afternoon, so wondering how bad it is. 4WD, no chains.
Only main roads are kept clean. We don't know if her home is not next to the cantonal route. Also mini-avalanches blocking roads. It can take a few hours to open the road again. Not a bad idea to prepare to pass the night in the car.
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What do you mean by impossible? The road Landquart - Klosters appears open, no traffic jams, according to strassen.gr.ch, TCS and Google Maps.

I need to drive to Laax in the afternoon, so wondering how bad it is. 4WD, no chains.
Impossible for us. We can't get out of our garage. Snow is being pushed to the sides, making smaller roads very narrow. We have a wide car. At the moment, its all they can do to keep things relatively clear, but aren't actually taking the snow away. Yesterday the cars without chains were sliding everywhere and I simply don't think my driving skills are up to it. We also have a 4WD but no chains so we are staying put. Safe drive.
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I have a bottle of excellent whiskey with me to break open in case of emergency. Not sure what else I can prepare for. I just hope the rental place has chains when I pick it up this afternoon....
Take a shovel, warm clothing obviously, a torch, bit of food, a hot drink to add that whisky to. My husband is calling a neighbour whose son works in St Moritz. I will report back if he hears anything of note.
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Re: Driving from Zurich to St Moritz

Apparently it stopped snowing in St. Moritz last night and they have less snow than us. No snow chain requirement there. Safe drive.
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Apparently it stopped snowing in St. Moritz last night and they have less snow than us. No snow chain requirement there. Safe drive.
Appreciate you checking, thanks! Fingers crossed that it will be okay once out of Zurich.
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Re: Driving from Zurich to St Moritz

So we assume you got to St. Moritz, but have you got out? I see there's an outbreak of the so-named British variant of the virus in the Palace and Kempinski's and everyone is locked in.
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