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Re: So it snowed ( a little ) in Zürich!

Last night I knew this was going to happen, after 15hr straight of light but non-stop snowing: I set the alarm to 5:30AM so that I could shovel snow for my wife to be able leave in time when she goes out to work (she works at a hospital, she starts super early). I woke up this morning to 15cm of fresh powder on my loooong driveway. Please please please not another massive snowfall this week. Pleeeeeaase not another one.

FYI: this is an aerial picture of my house. The area circled in red is what I have to shovel every time it snows more than just a bit. Although our car is 4x4, it's a good idea to make sure the rather uphill driveway from our underground garage is always clear of snow, which would otherwise turn to ice after driving over it a few times.

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Old 26.01.2021, 09:07
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Last night I knew this was going to happen, after 15hr straight of light but non-stop snowing: I set the alarm to 5:30AM so that I could shovel snow for my wife to be able leave in time when she goes out to work (she works at a hospital, she starts super early). I woke up this morning to 15cm of fresh powder on my loooong driveway. Please please please not another massive snowfall this week. Pleeeeeaase not another one.

FYI: this is an aerial picture of my house. The area circled in red is what I have to shovel every time it snows more than just a bit. Although our car is 4x4, it's a good idea to make sure the rather uphill driveway from our underground garage is always clear of snow, which would otherwise turn to ice after driving over it a few times.

We have a heated ramp from our garage which solves the problem.
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Old 26.01.2021, 09:12
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We have a heated ramp from our garage which solves the problem.
That's a pretty cool concept, had never thought of that. A little late for me, as we JUST finished redoing the driveway (which cost Fr. 16K). Just out of curiosity: do you know how energy intensive that is? Would that be affordable for a single-family house, or is that designed more for appartment buildings?
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That's a pretty cool concept, had never thought of that. A little late for me, as we JUST finished redoing the driveway (which cost Fr. 16K). Just out of curiosity: do you know how energy intensive that is? Would that be affordable for a single-family house, or is that designed more for appartment buildings?
It's not that energy intensive as the sensor works with moisture & temperature combined so only on when needed. Obviously if it's just you using the garage you could have a smart controller so only have it operational when you know you will be using the car.
This is the controller https://www.traceheating-cables.co.uk/via-du-20.html

After a very heavy snowfall 30 cm in under an hour, this is how the ramp looked, ours is set to 1 degree, lower than recommended but obviously uses way less power.
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Old 26.01.2021, 12:19
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woo, just curious (I'm no tree huger) what's the power source? Electrical? Geothermal + heat pump? Heating oil?
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woo, just curious (I'm no tree huger) what's the power source? Electrical? Geothermal + heat pump? Heating oil?
Electric, looks like it's under 1000w & is set to come on for 1 hour when needed. I suspect the annual cost is about €35 so about 1% of my power usage.
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Old 26.01.2021, 13:01
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Last night I knew this was going to happen, after 15hr straight of light but non-stop snowing: I set the alarm to 5:30AM so that I could shovel snow for my wife to be able leave in time when she goes out to work (she works at a hospital, she starts super early). I woke up this morning to 15cm of fresh powder on my loooong driveway. Please please please not another massive snowfall this week. Pleeeeeaase not another one.

FYI: this is an aerial picture of my house. The area circled in red is what I have to shovel every time it snows more than just a bit. Although our car is 4x4, it's a good idea to make sure the rather uphill driveway from our underground garage is always clear of snow, which would otherwise turn to ice after driving over it a few times.

I'm from one of the snowier parts of Canada, and it's quite rural so driveways are very long.

Here's a top tip from years of experience: whenever they announce a reasonable amount of snow to fall overnight, have your wife park her car at the end of the driveway. In the morning you will only need to brush off the car and shovel away the bit the snowplow has pushed in front of her car, so it's only a few minutes' worth of work (especially if you are two people), versus the hours it would take to clear the whole driveway.

This doesn't solve the problem of the driveway needing to be eventually cleared, but gives you a lot more time to do it. My parents pay for someone to come by with a machine but he comes in the afternoon so he can deal with higher-priority clients in the morning.
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Old 26.01.2021, 15:44
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In the morning you will only need to brush off the car and shovel away the bit the snowplow has pushed in front of her car, so it's only a few minutes' worth of work
Surprisingly we didn't think of that. From where she stands, it's better that I, in my shining armor, shovel away for 45min. so she can sit in her not so cold car and drive off. The alternative is that I brush off the 10cm of snow from the plow, and she sits in a freezing car for the first 5/10min of her commute.
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Old 26.01.2021, 16:12
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Surprisingly we didn't think of that. From where she stands, it's better that I, in my shining armor, shovel away for 45min. so she can sit in her not so cold car and drive off. The alternative is that I brush off the 10cm of snow from the plow, and she sits in a freezing car for the first 5/10min of her commute.
There is something a bit backwards about this solution, as part of the reason people have garages in the first place is to protect their cars from the elements. I am basically suggesting that whenever things look really bad, and it will be cold, and there will be lots of snow, this is when you should NOT put your car in the garage.

But it is much better than shovelling your entire driveway at an ungodly hour of the morning. If it's really cold, start the car already before you begin to clear the snow, it will have warmed up a bit inside by the time your wife is ready to leave. The only really unpleasant thing about driving a cold car is having a steering wheel that's freezing cold, but a good pair of gloves solves that problem.
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Old 26.01.2021, 16:45
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Re: So it snowed ( a little ) in Zürich!

I am in the city of Zürich and just down my street a large pine tree has fallen over, partly blocking a footpath (albeit a minor and unimportant one) and has still not been cleared. Normally such a thing would be tidied up within hours. The city must be totally overworked.

I remember from past bouts of heavy snowfall that the trams would typically continue running nevertheless. Or if they had to stop temporarily it was due to cars slithering onto tram tracks. So not anything inherent to the trams. They had special snow cleaning trams that would continue running all night to sweep the tracks. They still have some of those today but only about half the number they had in the 1990s despite now having more miles of track to clean. I think there has been some level of assumption that really bad snow was a thing of the past.

But that said, I guess it's still a first world problem. This type of snow back in the UK would have led to power cuts and burst water mains.
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Last night I knew this was going to happen, after 15hr straight of light but non-stop snowing: I set the alarm to 5:30AM so that I could shovel snow for my wife to be able leave in time when she goes out to work (she works at a hospital, she starts super early). I woke up this morning to 15cm of fresh powder on my loooong driveway. Please please please not another massive snowfall this week. Pleeeeeaase not another one.

FYI: this is an aerial picture of my house. The area circled in red is what I have to shovel every time it snows more than just a bit. Although our car is 4x4, it's a good idea to make sure the rather uphill driveway from our underground garage is always clear of snow, which would otherwise turn to ice after driving over it a few times.

Salt.
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This pattern annoys female cyclists in Zurich, for example on Tuesday, when snow plowed away, as usual, obstructed many cycle paths. On the Pro Velo Zurich Facebook page, some complained that their means of transport continued to come second when it came to clearing snow. "The current situation is inadequate and often dangerous," says Pro Velo spokeswoman Andrea Freiermuth.
Why people feel the need to cycle in 40cm of fresh snow when there is a home office obligation is beyond me. And then bitch about it.

Is there some kind of cyclambulance to transport these morons so that they can have attention redirected to their bleeding and broken bodies? It's not like there is a major pandemic taking place needing healthcare pros attention or anything.

As I mentioned to the chaps that turned up at my apartments that I was pleased to see them (nicely) and thanked them for their work, they replied (at 2pm) that this was the third day they were working to clear snow and their days were starting at 3am.

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Last night I knew this was going to happen, after 15hr straight of light but non-stop snowing: I set the alarm to 5:30AM so that I could shovel snow for my wife to be able leave in time when she goes out to work (she works at a hospital, she starts super early). I woke up this morning to 15cm of fresh powder on my loooong driveway. Please please please not another massive snowfall this week. Pleeeeeaase not another one.
Why don't you get a snow blower?

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I thought we had feedback that Salt is rubbish, and actually Sunrise is better
Normally that would be good too, but Caleb's wife has to leave home before sunrise so there's no chance of the snow melting. And the sun really isn't very warm in winter.

So, we're stuck with salt.
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Why don't you get a snow blower?
We own an electric Schneefräse, but it's not allowed to run it THAT early in the morning, since it's super noisy (Rühezeit ends at 7:00AM).
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Why people feel the need to cycle in 40cm of fresh snow when there is a home office obligation is beyond me. And then bitch about it.

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Just maybe they work in jobs that require them to be at a place of work (nurses for example).
Just maybe they prefer to get some exercise and fresh air rather than risk public transport.
Just maybe they don't own cars.

The problem isn't the roads, it's the snow piled up on the edge of them blocking the cycleways.

Of course the other problem is people like you with your blinkered attitude.
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Just maybe they work in jobs that require them to be at a place of work (nurses for example).
Just maybe they prefer to get some exercise and fresh air rather than risk public transport.
Just maybe they don't own cars.

The problem isn't the roads, it's the snow piled up on the edge of them blocking the cycleways.

Of course the other problem is people like you with your blinkered attitude.

Well the same problem exists for people parking cars on the side of the road. A neighbour was digging his car out for more than an hour to be able to clear the mountain of snow built up from the plough.

So either the roads get ploughed and you have snowbanks (and complaints) or the roads don't get ploughed and accidents happen (and complaints).


So I guess at the end of the day the problem is actually weather, and that regardless of our progress as a society weather can still affect us significantly.
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Why don't you get a snow blower?
Snowblowers are crap in wet snow.
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And throws everything into chaos. Cant imagine what it would be like if it snowed for a week. Are the clean up authorities of the City of Zurich incompetent!
I believe, that given the many, many on-going disputes of your own country, you are not really in a position to judge whether the wearing right footwear in Switzerland or not during a cold year makes you competent to comment on such a topic.
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