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Is there such a thing as an apartment and balcony gardener? (ZH Area)

Ok, here's the deal. I love plants. I can just about keep them alive for a while but then I do something wrong and it's bye bye plant. Or they live in some half-alive zombie state, never 100% happy. One plant was looking amazing up until three weeks ago, I changed nothing but suddenly it went dry and now it's dead. It's very sad.

I suspect that I am making mistakes in either the selection of the plants, their positioning, or maybe the pot they are in is wrong. Unfortunately, I lack the patience and energy to figure this out by going down a Google rabbit hole. My mother keeps telling me to watch Monty Don but I am just not that involved, especially as he works in actual gardens in the mild English countryside, not the arid desert of a Swiss Minergie apartment or the windy, extremely sunny place that is my balcony.

I'd love someone to come to my apartment, look at my current plants, tell me how to save them/make them happier (give me a shopping list and clear instructions) and which ones I can buy that will be happy in my place. Ditto for the balcony plants. For extra bonus points, actually set up the whole apartment/balcony plant situation for me in spring, i.e. bring the supplies, get everything potted in properly, then come back in late autumn and tell me what to cut/prepare to replace and wrap it all up for the winter. Then come back again in spring to tend to everything, fix whatever I'm doing wrong, prepare for the summer, and so on. Ideally, all I'd like to have to do is to water, do some light weeding/cutting back as needed, and enjoy the plants.

So - is there such a thing? An Urban Dwelling Gardener/Horticultural Advisor that caters to the Zurich area, within max. 30 minutes' drive of Glattpark? If not, can someone maybe create this service? I can't be the only Millenial who is too distracted and disorganised to realise their #plantgoals? I've had a Google for gardeners in general and they seem focused on actual gardens or terraces.

And just in case it wasn't clear: the question is whether there is such a service in the Zurich area and contact details if there is. I'm not interested in how completely easy YOU find this, how you don't understand why I don't want to do it myself or how everyone in [insert location of choice, with a high probability of it being Ticino] just puts plants on the grill when they look poorly. I don't find this easy. It actually bothers me quite a lot and it is yet another thing I struggle with that others don't.
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Re: Is there such a thing as an apartment and balcony gardener? (ZH Area)

Does your apartment block have plants/a communal garden? If so, then ask the management for the number of their gardener.
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Does your apartment block have plants/a communal garden? If so, then ask the management for the number of their gardener.
That is an excellent idea, unfortunately, our greenery is of the more minimalist kind and they don't have a dedicated specialist to tend to it from what I can tell.
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Re: Is there such a thing as an apartment and balcony gardener? (ZH Area)

No personal experience, but if you are interested in a 'usable' garden, I remembered reading an article about Veg And The City, and it looks like they do this kind of thing:

https://www.vegandthecity.ch/de/gart...g/privatgarten

With our small spaces, my rule - learned from my first Swiss neighbor - is that my garden needs to do double duty. Fruits, veggies, herbs don't have to be planted in boring utilitarian rows, you can make a delightful-to-the-eye garden that's also edible.
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Re: Is there such a thing as an apartment and balcony gardener? (ZH Area)

You could try https://www.vegandthecity.ch/de/

EDIT - meloncollie beat me to it

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Re: Is there such a thing as an apartment and balcony gardener? (ZH Area)

I would simply contact a local horticulture company. A friend of mine has recently completed her training to be a horticulturist and she for sure knows everything about growing plants in all environments, including indoors and exposed areas. I'd recommend her to you, only she lives in France and works in Geneva (and doesn't speak English or German).
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Re: Is there such a thing as an apartment and balcony gardener? (ZH Area)

Our neighbor has the florist coming over every few weeks to refresh her front-porch garden and tending to/replacing her houseplants. I'm not sure if this is a common thing or not but it might be worth asking your local florist.
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I got happy jungles at home, always have. It's intuitive care. Got 8 babies in my test-tube plant nursery, too, have to keep track in my mind of which plants need what at our current place, because light/position of light, heat, humidity changes, but it's easy. One brings home pathogens and parasites often too, so that's a challenge sometimes. I'd suggest signing up for gardening club, and ask people for indoor plant care advice since they'll all have indoor plats. One off couple of hour session doesn't grow green thumbs, that's just damage control of what one already has at home and doesn't know how to care for. It's like cooking, one off session will help but it is better to expose oneself more. People in plant stores know a lot and are happy to help, for free in my experience. Or will know where to hire an indoor vegetation specialist. I'd also call a school where florists are trained, they will know somebody.

PS - making free plant babies is a good way to not feel like a failed gardener when one of the plants dies...Plants are resiliant, if they die fast they were mostly meant to not last long, cheap stores pump them with bad stuff that makes them only look good in stores.
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Re: Is there such a thing as an apartment and balcony gardener? (ZH Area)

If you know the names of the plants you have (what type), you could try going to a garden center that sells indoor plants* and ask some of the workers there and/or just try looking stuff up online. If you don't know the names, you could take photos of the plants with your phone and show them the photos.

* I usually go to Rutihauser in Fällanden, and the workers there are always very helpful.

We moved into a garden apartment about 8 years ago that needed a lot of work and things planted; and I had no idea how to plant stuff or take care of the plants, so I basically learned everything I know now by doing research online.

One thing you might want to consider with your plants is if they're getting proper drainage. I've lost potted plants before (outside) because there weren't holes in the bottom of the containers. And of course, some plants can easily get too much or too little sun.
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Re: Is there such a thing as an apartment and balcony gardener? (ZH Area)

You know some plants only last one season right? :-)
Also some won't like freezing temperatures (like we had lately) and many won't like a sunny balcony that gets to 60 degrees. It can be a harsh environment. I like gardening but still somethings die so I don't bother with them again. It's survival of the fittest on my balcony. What does grow well is rosemary and for some reason snapdragons (loewenmaul).


What can be good are the plant pots or troughs with the water reservoir in the base. You still need to add water from time to time but there's less risk of over or under watering.
For indoor plants you can get a 'parrot pot' I think it's called where it monitors the soil and adds water (from a reservoir) when necessary.


But all this is maybe too much to read so sure, I'm sure you can find somebody to look after your plants. Money talks ;-)
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For identifying plants, there are apps now for this. One is called picture this.
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This looks great!
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No personal experience, but if you are interested in a 'usable' garden, I remembered reading an article about Veg And The City, and it looks like they do this kind of thing:

https://www.vegandthecity.ch/de/gart...g/privatgarten

With our small spaces, my rule - learned from my first Swiss neighbor - is that my garden needs to do double duty. Fruits, veggies, herbs don't have to be planted in boring utilitarian rows, you can make a delightful-to-the-eye garden that's also edible.
It looks like they would be the ticket, they even give examples of how they did pretty much what I need to be done. Somehow, they didn't show up when I googled, thanks!

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I would simply contact a local horticulture company. A friend of mine has recently completed her training to be a horticulturist and she for sure knows everything about growing plants in all environments, including indoors and exposed areas. I'd recommend her to you, only she lives in France and works in Geneva (and doesn't speak English or German).
I actually speak fluent French but Geneva is definitely a bit far, thanks anyway! It looks like Veg and the City might be a good fit. They also do loads (and I mean LOADS) of courses by the way, including in English. The indoor plant ones are this week (in theory, I wonder if they are actually going ahead) or in October, so just missed that. But definitely a great tip. If I could find time to actually do a course, I would consider it, unfortunately my health is a bit hit and miss at the moment, meaning I often have to sleep through entire weekends just to recover for the next work week. That's part of why I'm looking into just getting someone to do the work for me.

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I got happy jungles at home, always have. It's intuitive care. Got 8 babies in my test-tube plant nursery, too, have to keep track in my mind of which plants need what at our current place, because light/position of light, heat, humidity changes, but it's easy. One brings home pathogens and parasites often too, so that's a challenge sometimes. I'd suggest signing up for gardening club, and ask people for indoor plant care advice since they'll all have indoor plats. One off couple of hour session doesn't grow green thumbs, that's just damage control of what one already has at home and doesn't know how to care for. It's like cooking, one off session will help but it is better to expose oneself more. People in plant stores know a lot and are happy to help, for free in my experience. Or will know where to hire an indoor vegetation specialist. I'd also call a school where florists are trained, they will know somebody.
Keeping track of things is where I fall down, I had an app on my iPad that was meant to help but they don't do an Android version and I'm not fond of any of the alternatives. I'm not good at anything that falls into the category of following a sustained schedule. Some days, I forget to eat entirely because I am too busy with other things. What I do not need is more things to do, which is why I am happy to pay someone to set up and explain to me how to maintain a selection of plants that are actually suited to the environment.


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One thing you might want to consider with your plants is if they're getting proper drainage. I've lost potted plants before (outside) because there weren't holes in the bottom of the containers. And of course, some plants can easily get too much or too little sun.
I have proper pots with drainage and they are stood on gravel within the decorative pot surrounding the actual pot, I've also experimented with those little brown balls for plants that prefer an "airier" root system after they didn't like being in normal soil. For the plants that seem to be unable to decide whether they are thirsty or drowning (looking at you, Peace Lilly!), I've got one of those little water dispenser things with a clay bottom so they can draw moisture as needed. Several have moisture sensors in them and I started using a moisture sensor thing on the balcony plants to prevent over-watering.

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But all this is maybe too much to read so sure, I'm sure you can find somebody to look after your plants. Money talks ;-)
Less of the snark.

I know what plants I have, they came with labels when I bought them and I understand the concept of annuals etc. As for survival of the fittest, gone down that path a few times: after my third bamboo died despite having planted it exactly to the instructions from the garden centre employee, I finally accepted that bamboo was not going to happen. I'm doing ok with roses too, the last one died because I was away on holiday and it got overwatered by someone else. It's the herbs and other plants that are just not really doing well. And my indoor plants are just scraping by rather than thriving.
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Re: Is there such a thing as an apartment and balcony gardener? (ZH Area)

Get 10 plants knowing that 5 will die, then if 7 survive you will feel like a million bucks. Robust plants that don't die even if my friends ignore them for a month: most ficus variety (those old ones with thick stem will last forever) bamboo (in water only), aloe and this:



I'd get those in double and not pay for a gardener (unless he's handsome).

Most people around me forget to eat, incl. me.

Robust plants grow and are ok no matter what even if you forget to water, usually 1/2 sun/shade. Window sil inside in the kitchen is where I put fragile ones so I remember them. Then I promote them to a plant village where the conditions are proven good.

Stick citrus seeds or dates seeds (after you eat them) in the dirt at existing plants pots, if the plant die, you at least have a palm tree from a date, or a citrus.

This is what I do babies in (zero maintenance):

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It's the herbs and other plants that are just not really doing well. And my indoor plants are just scraping by rather than thriving.

Don't overlook that most plants will require fertiliser after whatever was in your potting medium has been used. Rosemary and thyme do well for me but have never really had much success with basil.
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There is a special fertiliser for edible herbs/plants, I think I bought it in Ikea or Migros.

Otherwise I got granules of calcium cyanamid that my plants like that I use, sporadically, but not sure if it's cat friendly.
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Buying the plants from a good garden company is often the most critical factor. Plants I buy from Ikea don't do well. Except the Ficus varieties. We now buy from local nurseries and Dehner in Germany. And then you can ask them about the care as well.
Some indoor plants are impossible to kill, like Spiderplant, Pothos, Dracaena and Cast Iron plant. May be start with them first?
Also, avoid watering too much. Once a week/ week and a half is sufficient for most plants.
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One thing you might want to consider with your plants is if they're getting proper drainage. I've lost potted plants before (outside) because there weren't holes in the bottom of the containers. And of course, some plants can easily get too much or too little sun.
Of course it's a little more complicated than that. Some plants like hot sun but cool roots so just won't grow well in a pot.

Although of no interest to the OP, part of the fun of growing plants is not only the effort involved in keeping them alive but the skill and knowledge in getting them to thrive.

Depending on where the OP bought her plants, some just won't survive whatever you do right - they may have come with pathogens in the soil or worse - I saw evidence of vine weevils in a pot an one garden centre.

Some have root damage and are basically dying when you buy them.

Others come in a pot with the wrong soil type/composition for the plant - although in this case you can do something about it.
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Re: Is there such a thing as an apartment and balcony gardener? (ZH Area)

To make it easy on yourself ask to have plants that all require the same level of care and attention so there is only one rule to remember, and ideally plants that can survive being neglected for two weeks (so you don't need to have someone in to water them if you're on holiday). All my plants require only a small amount of water once per week, and I do this on Sunday evening. If I skip a week the plants all survive just fine.

My MIL tried to convert me into a gardener, but she gave me so many plants with so many different care rules it was overwhelming for me and most of them died. My new rule is I keep only things that are robust enough to handle my pretty minimal and basically lazy caretaking.
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Re: Is there such a thing as an apartment and balcony gardener? (ZH Area)

Hi Kittster


Your request is no more unusual that someone looking for a cleaner.


I had a friend decades ago in LA, USA, who used to take care of plants in homes and restaurants. The amount of care, planning, buying was agreed with each client. Her clients came by word of mouth, as often she would go into properties unoccupied

Many offices use the similar service with security staff around.



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