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Old 07.02.2021, 23:02
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Re: Anyone else finding it rather tough at the moment (Zurich)

To me (and my partner) it's the other way around, 2020 was one of the best years so far. Introverted as we are, having to stay home sounds more like a really good suggestion rather than a mandatory measurement.

All that time and money saved from not having to commute, all that energy saved from not having to meet and act nice with co-workers .. and finally not having to feel the daily stress and disgust from being surrounded by loud people on the street with no self-awareness.

The only negative thing I can think of has been the limited amount of traveling that has been possible, but it could definitely have been worse.

Here's hoping working from home becomes the norm and that tourists will not flock back to Switzerland in coming years.
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Old 07.02.2021, 23:06
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Forget vitamins, walks in the forest and language CDs. Get on Tinder, Grinder etc and get swiping and bonking!
Just be sure to wrap the person in cellophane (except for the necessary bits) and thoroughly spray them down with disinfectant before the bonking.

I wonder how many inflatable love dolls have been sold in the past year...
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Re: Anyone else finding it rather tough at the moment (Zurich)

Yes indeed.

The upside, for me, is that I‘ve taken up cross-country skiing again. There are several places that have skis for rent about an hour‘s drive from Zürich, see langlauf.ch or bergfex.ch.

If Netflix is beginning to look stale, Zürich’s last DVD rental place near Central has over 30‘000 titles in stock and a friendly, knowledgeable team: lesvideos.ch.

The Zentralbibliothek is free for residents. It’s the university library, but it also has an infinitely more varied choice of fiction in English than the Pestalozzi libraries. (Minus the kind for sale at airports, of course.) While the reading rooms are currently closed, you can still borrow books.

One very local suggestion: Since Swiss women got the vote fifty years ago today, here’s a wonderful history lesson for dialect speakers. Our daughter found it as funny as I did, but was also a little shocked by such goings-on in my lifetime. https://www.srf.ch/play/tv/schweizer...b-38ad8b2a3727 (Available at Les Videos with subtitles - call in advance to make sure it‘s there.)
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Here's hoping ....... that tourists will not flock back to Switzerland in coming years.
Some of us rely on those tourists to make a living, thanks very much!
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Re: Anyone else finding it rather tough at the moment (Zurich)

Some days I want to rip open the front door, scream, run around ringing all the doorbells inviting everyone else to scream, and then run, run, run and run until we can fall into one another's arms in a big, happy, laughing hug.

Not yet.
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Old 08.02.2021, 07:15
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Not really a rant more just an observation. I moved here last year during the pandemic (and I take responsibility for that!) and have found it very difficult to integrate in any meaningful way.

Don't get me wrong I understand the legend of how difficult Switzerland is, and I am prepared for that. It's just with this never ending lockdown, having to work from my ****y apartment, I'm finding myself increasingly isolated. Obviously can chat with friends and family back home (which helps), but even all their flights etc are cancelled.

Now I understand the answer here is to toughen up a bit, and its weird because usually I am a very tough person. But I'm getting the feeling that I am going backwards with my life. I don't want to come out of this pandemic stunted!

Tl:dr, moved to Zurich to start a new life, ended up with even less of a life whilst working a very stressful job.

If anyone has any suggestions on how to cope, or new things to take up, I would be much obliged.

Everyone has had such great ideas already. (well done EF again) I feel bad flakey that you never found your flake (someone send him one please) I think the fact that you posted this thread is a good first step. we moved back here after 10 years away last year. It was certainly not the experience we were expecting (no farewells and no welcome events) it felt like a ghostland landing in Zurich airport last april. Fast forward 9 months and it feels like we will never get out of this. but we have survived - all of us are in the same boat (I posted on FB about my 1 year mask wearing anniversary the other day, something I never thought I would be doing)
anyway OP keep us updated on your progress, others here too who are feeling the same. I find going out for walks the best remedy, and thankfully we live in a country that is great for that.
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Young people have lost one year out of their remaining decades. Older people have lost a whole year out of their remaining few. Life gets very, very precious when you realise you have so little left...
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Young people have lost one year out of their remaining decades. Older people have lost a whole year out of their remaining few. Life gets very, very precious when you realise you have so little left...
I agree with this so very much ... I would like to slap the teens/young 20's who complain about not being able to go clubbing to save "a few old people".

I do feel for the children, as childhood is far too short - but in my perspective, things have been mostly normal for the children in Switzerland.
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Likewise. My wife has shown the resilience of a prize fighter and the patience of a saint with our two girls (7 and 4). The notion of not leaving our apartment for mountains within the next few months and a beach within the next 6 is simply not an option
OMG DarkHalequin, this is one of the sweetest posts I have read here lately...

Please, make sure you tell your wife exactly these words and don't let them hang only here in the "ether".

Seriously now, on the plus side of things I definitely place the epiphanies some parents/fathers had... It's like they knew it very well before in theory, but they didn't quite know it till themselves stayed home for a while.
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Everyone has had such great ideas already. (well done EF again) I feel bad flakey that you never found your flake (someone send him one please) I think the fact that you posted this thread is a good first step.
I offered to post one to him.
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I do feel for the children, as childhood is far too short - but in my perspective, things have been mostly normal for the children in Switzerland.
Mainly just schooling, most other things have been just as difficult for them. Festivals, holiday camps (football, tennis etc..) have all been cancelled. All the swimming pools, play centres, toy shops, museums etc.. are closed and mine haven't seen their grandparents in almost a year.
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Re: Anyone else finding it rather tough at the moment (Zurich)

Well - you have good days and you have bad days. In 2019 I spent over 100 nights in hotels (work in Tech sales).

My work days used to be completely dynamic, going to customers, traveling, going to lunches, hosting dinners. Now, for almost a year I'm at home, 8 hours a day at my computer. This is the part that's so hard for me. Everyday feels the same, wake up make coffee, sit at the computer, make dinner, watch tv, go to bed. Yes, its different, yes it can be difficult but I know I'm still lucky to be able to do my job and to have a job. I know it's temporary and I hope it gets back to some sort of normalcy soon.

I will say not being able to travel has allowed me to strengthen the friend groups that I had here. We all used to travel and the stars had to align for us all to get together in town, but now we do see each other more regularly.

Life does feel like it's at a standstill. It's difficult to see our way forward and to plan our lives, and that causes alot of worry, stress, etc. My way of staying sane? Planning my first trip when we can all travel! I also spend my time on Zillow sometimes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEfsaXDX0UQ
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Old 08.02.2021, 10:17
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I agree with this so very much ... I would like to slap the teens/young 20's who complain about not being able to go clubbing to save "a few old people".

I do feel for the children, as childhood is far too short - but in my perspective, things have been mostly normal for the children in Switzerland.
Ok children yes but what I mostly see here (as the kids are at school still here) I see many pensioners wandering around in the cold as they can't go to their local migros restaurant where they go every week/ morning to meet their friends or even go alone so they don't need to be alone at home. It's easy to say stay at home when we all have someone at home (or a job or a car or are healthy to go walk in the woods) but I do have sympathy for those who are elderly and live alone and just want to go have a cup of coffee somewhere warm, get out of their house, so they don't need to be alone 24/7.
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Mainly just schooling, most other things have been just as difficult for them. Festivals, holiday camps (football, tennis etc..) have all been cancelled. All the swimming pools, play centres, toy shops, museums etc.. are closed and mine haven't seen their grandparents in almost a year.
Thanks, as a non-parent, it is difficult for me to have the right perspective. I didn't have all those festivals/camps & grandparents growing up, but it would have been very sad to not be able to swim or go to museums.

I wonder how the children must feel emotionally, the whole thing must be a strange and a rather anxiety inducing concept to them. I feel the most for the youngest and eldest generations in this crisis.
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Old 08.02.2021, 10:23
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...and here I thought I was the only one watching Zillow-porn (mostly to keep tabs on the tropical house we sold just in time before the plague really hit). lol.
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I have a really good book on Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) that was written by a psychologist. CBT -- the basics of it -- might be something that could help you. It basically helps teach people to change their thought patterns by learning to recognize negative thoughts and then to change those thoughts and hence, also their emotions -- rather than letting their negative thoughts control their emotions. Most of us just think and emote without really trying to control it. One of the things she points out in the book is that much of our unhappiness and sense of discontent stems from thinking in terms of "should" -- what we think should be. e.g. "I should be making more money." "I should be in a happy relationship." So then when we focus on the "Should" rather than trying to be content with what we have or what will be, it generates a sense of unhappiness. In all honesty, the book has helped me immensely because it's helped me learn how to control and change my thought patterns.
And wat is the name of this book? And by whom?
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Not really a rant more just an observation. I moved here last year during the pandemic (and I take responsibility for that!) and have found it very difficult to integrate in any meaningful way.

Don't get me wrong I understand the legend of how difficult Switzerland is, and I am prepared for that. It's just with this never ending lockdown, having to work from my ****y apartment, I'm finding myself increasingly isolated. Obviously can chat with friends and family back home (which helps), but even all their flights etc are cancelled.

Now I understand the answer here is to toughen up a bit, and its weird because usually I am a very tough person. But I'm getting the feeling that I am going backwards with my life. I don't want to come out of this pandemic stunted!

Tl:dr, moved to Zurich to start a new life, ended up with even less of a life whilst working a very stressful job.

If anyone has any suggestions on how to cope, or new things to take up, I would be much obliged.

Yes, this has been a hard lockdown. Things that I embraced the first time around Im finding much harder this time around. Ive attended 3 virtual funerals since Jan 1. The one last week was so tough. Thanks for posting this flakey. Its good to talk.



The good news - hopefully - as the months get brighter and we get vaccinated (fingers crossed) Zurich is lovely in the summer and spring. So much to do outside even if you are not a crazy paraglider, mountaineer. Hopefully the hardest part is behind you.
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Some of us rely on those tourists to make a living, thanks very much!
I understand and feel for you very much.

I must selfishly admit that I very much enjoy my neck of the woods not been trampled on by the bus loads of the usual tourists from all over the planet...it currently feels like what Europe must have felt a few decades ago. Mass tourism really is an issue and one of the reasons why we are in this mess.

Would you still be able to survive (or thrive) if mass tourism ceases to exist?
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I also spend my time on Zillow sometimes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEfsaXDX0UQ
That skit is brilliant. And so on the mark.

As WFH has turned my home into a corporate office - meaning the home-based activities that could have kept me sane during this time are not possible - browsing Vermont farmhouses on Zillow has become one of my few coping mechanisms.

Good to know I'm not alone.
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And wat is the name of this book? And by whom?
It's this one:

https://www.bookdepository.com/Chang...714cf286c25bd2

I read it a few years ago after my close friend who is a psychologist suggested CBT to help me deal with overcoming a trauma that had really been ruling my mind and emotions for a long time. It definitely helped.
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