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- Go for a walk in the forest
- Run
- Do fitness
- Eat like a pig, oink oink
- Work if you want
- Watch films, series etc
- Waste time on EF
- Talk with your loved ones live or online
- Cook food
- Drink
- Smoke
- Learn something
- Sleep
- Sex
- Kiss
- Talk

With the amount of possibilities modern technology offers, there is no excuse to moan. The Only exception is if you have medical issues or no money at all.
Work if you want? Well some of us have to pay the rent sweetie ... I have been luckily doing all of those things listed by you since Feb 2020, (except smoke) but again, sometimes people need more than working on their sofa all day and trying to fit your list into their lives afterword.

We are not moaning - we are mourning the loss of our normal lives - from hugging friends and parents, making new friends, from traveling and living new adventures. Nothing wrong with taking solace with fellow minded friends on this forum...I do count my many blessing everyday.
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Old 08.02.2021, 14:33
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So just because you can still go to work it is all nice and dandy?
Basically, yes.

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Old 08.02.2021, 14:52
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Food shops mostly. And shops selling essentials (make-up, garden stuff, etc.).



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Fascinating. You buy make up? .

You are, at least, honest.

I am by nature an introvert. As is my husband. I find this difficult because it allows us to fall back into our anti social tendencies.

First world problem.
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And you forgot cutting and splitting firewood
I've bought a bokken
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I am by nature an introvert. As is my husband. I find this difficult because it allows us to fall back into our anti social tendencies.
Same, we are by definition, ambiverts...but I am starting to forget how to be social.
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Old 08.02.2021, 15:33
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2023? Why would you think that? Don’t quit your day job and become a life coach/motivator.
Agree 100% with you on that! In fact considering the title of this thread,any negative thoughts should be avoided at all costs.
I think you have to find comfort in the small things. For me it's a brief trip to Greifensee lake and some fresh air. Seeing snowdrops coming up and early signs of Spring.
I think also if anyone is feeling particularly low, avoid overloading your mind with Covid figures etc.
We will get through this eventually.
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Old 08.02.2021, 16:40
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Although for those with full time jobs but required to 'work from home' its a 'working holiday' although nothing to
stop your 'work from home' being 'work from home in another country' In fact a number of countries are tapping into
this new market, that used to be the preserve of the Digital Nomads, with places like Barbados and the Canary Islands
actively seeking out the 'work from home' market by offering 'work from home' visa's to Barbados.

Where they could be onto a winner, what with many businesses and bosses saying they want to include the ability
to 'work from home' for all office based jobs after the pandemic.
A couple companies I know of that are accommodating the digital nomad approach might not pay Swiss salaries for much longer. After X amount of time the employee who chooses to work outside Switzerland will be paid a local salary. Or digital nomad jobs might be moved to some kind of gig status.

So be a bit careful what you wish for... and if you do truly wish for it, good on ya for escaping Cubicle World. Just make sure you fully understand the trade-offs.

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Old 08.02.2021, 16:51
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A couple companies I know of that are accommodating the digital nomad approach might not pay Swiss salaries for much longer. After X amount of time the employee who choosed to work outside Switzerland will be paid a local salary. Or digital nomad jobs might be moved to some kind of gig status.

So be a bit careful what you wish for... and if you do truly wish for it, good on ya for escaping Cubicle World. Just make sure you fully understand the trade-offs.
It swings both ways, currently I'm constrained to a single employer due to the confidentiality agreement I signed with several months notice if I want to leave.
If they want to put me on a gig contract, fine, let me gig.
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Old 08.02.2021, 17:33
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Yes, this has been a hard lockdown. Things that I embraced the first time around Im finding much harder this time around. Ive attended 3 virtual funerals since Jan 1. The one last week was so tough. Thanks for posting this flakey. Its good to talk.



The good news - hopefully - as the months get brighter and we get vaccinated (fingers crossed) Zurich is lovely in the summer and spring. So much to do outside even if you are not a crazy paraglider, mountaineer. Hopefully the hardest part is behind you.

that is a tough one, my condolences. I am also thinking of those separated from their spouses and kids during this. Prior to the move back over we thought we would also be in that situation as there was a lockdown in SG before here and the movers were not allowed to work (so we thought initially I would need to stay behind to handle the move) But it somehow worked out and I am thankful that me and hubby are stuck in each other's hair 24/7 home office here. (also thankful swiss appartments are waay bigger than singapore ones!)
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Old 08.02.2021, 19:33
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Same, we are by definition, ambiverts...but I am starting to forget how to be social.
Same here. But I would say I'm leaning more to the extrovert side while OH is more the introvert type who is happy to meet people if I organise everything. We used to cook with and for friends (we both like that, he's much better than me though lol) and to have nice Saturday dinners with our "bubble" here and now we can't do even that. Usually I am social and I do like to mix with people from all places, professions and ages but everything that I used to do is not possible anymore.
But well, I guess these are first world problems.

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A couple companies I know of that are accommodating the digital nomad approach might not pay Swiss salaries for much longer. After X amount of time the employee who chooses to work outside Switzerland will be paid a local salary. Or digital nomad jobs might be moved to some kind of gig status.

So be a bit careful what you wish for... and if you do truly wish for it, good on ya for escaping Cubicle World. Just make sure you fully understand the trade-offs.
Yes. Words of the wiser.
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Old 08.02.2021, 20:26
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Re: Anyone else finding it rather tough at the moment (Zurich)

Here's the video and the Channel 4 Program for those that want to 'work from home, from abroad' beginning
with Channel 4's - Escape to Barbados.

Channel 4 - follows Brits who signed up to the Barbados Welcome Stamp when working from home

Why Work from home when you can do more & work from Barbados - video

Work from home from the Canary Islands - video
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Re: Anyone else finding it rather tough at the moment (Zurich)

I find it really hard too. the more time goes by, the harder it is.
I didn't move into new country during pandemic, but I have changed the canton. left my friends on the other side of the mountain and didn't find the new ones.
everything is closed here, I have more home office then office work. this is making it more hard. it is hard to stop working (I have work for 200% not for 100% work), because I am home. didn't really make connection at work with someone so it is sad too. and there is such a big pressure at work because we are producing the vaccine and all the thank you from the highest management is making me crazy, feel to me as empty words.....
I usually had 2 big travels per year + visiting family, now nothing, no plans for future travel and no family visit.

I have tried to do some online education, but the work is in the way. my dog is getting old, so she doesn't want to be so much outside and I don't want to be without her.....
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Old 08.02.2021, 21:11
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Some days I want to rip open the front door, scream, run around ringing all the doorbells inviting everyone else to scream, and then run, run, run and run until we can fall into one another's arms in a big, happy, laughing hug.

Not yet.
I was with you until the falling into one another's arms bit. I like my neighbors but not THAT much.

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I find it really hard too. the more time goes by, the harder it is.
I didn't move into new country during pandemic, but I have changed the canton. left my friends on the other side of the mountain and didn't find the new ones.
everything is closed here, I have more home office then office work. this is making it more hard. it is hard to stop working (I have work for 200% not for 100% work), because I am home. didn't really make connection at work with someone so it is sad too. and there is such a big pressure at work because we are producing the vaccine and all the thank you from the highest management is making me crazy, feel to me as empty words.....
I usually had 2 big travels per year + visiting family, now nothing, no plans for future travel and no family visit.

I have tried to do some online education, but the work is in the way. my dog is getting old, so she doesn't want to be so much outside and I don't want to be without her.....
Hugs, zuzi! I promise to get us together for the dinner club as soon as it's safe and there's actually a place open we can meet!
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Old 08.02.2021, 21:11
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I find it really hard too. the more time goes by, the harder it is.
I didn't move into new country during pandemic, but I have changed the canton. left my friends on the other side of the mountain and didn't find the new ones.
everything is closed here, I have more home office then office work. this is making it more hard. it is hard to stop working (I have work for 200% not for 100% work), because I am home. didn't really make connection at work with someone so it is sad too. and there is such a big pressure at work because we are producing the vaccine and all the thank you from the highest management is making me crazy, feel to me as empty words.....
I usually had 2 big travels per year + visiting family, now nothing, no plans for future travel and no family visit.

I have tried to do some online education, but the work is in the way. my dog is getting old, so she doesn't want to be so much outside and I don't want to be without her.....
I know from management thanks can be empty words, but I am grateful for everyone who works on this stuff.

Since I don’t work I did take 6 months of online German....I needed a break though, before continuing. Still, I miss the structure.

Totally with you on the dog. Mine is 16.5 years almost, developing a bit of dementia and she’s aged quite a bit in the last few months. Some days she barely wants to have a walk..but I’m thankful for every day she’s here with us.
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Work if you want? Well some of us have to pay the rent sweetie ...
I meant as in do whatever is required. I am not made of money, probably the poorest guy on this forum and no one pays my rent either

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Totally with you on the dog. Mine is 16.5 years almost, developing a bit of dementia and she’s aged quite a bit in the last few months. Some days she barely wants to have a walk..but I’m thankful for every day she’s here with us.
Our sweet Oliver passed late last year, I was so grateful we could be home with him everyday these past months... a gift honestly.
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I have really enjoyed and empathized reading all of your posts. I just returned back to Zurich and am in quarantine. That said, I also have a 10 1/2 year old lab whom we adore but she finds it so strange I am here 24/7 and not taking her out for walks as per usual.

My OH is working from home now which is a new thing. I too miss the freedom to travel and the personal connections and social interaction. But I am an extrovert by nature; my OH is very happy to have me and our sweet lab here and doesn't need as much social interaction that my dog and I do. (Not kidding about my dog - she thinks anyone pre-COVID who came to visit, came to see her!

Just hope the vaccines are effective so there is a light at the end of tunnel. Not so easy given the bleak weather... But I have hope!
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Re: Anyone else finding it rather tough at the moment (Zurich)

Stop wining and take up some self-development shit you never had time for.

Like becoming supercool at cooking. Or making a six-pack instead of a beer belly. Or so some strategic work. Or become a 2000+ rated chess player

Seriously, best time ever for self-polishing, no distractions.
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Stop wining and take up some self-development shit you never had time for..
Actually I’m super busy at work... “lockdown” hasn’t given me much free time! What is sending me over the edge is not being able to visit family in the U.K. .... I’ve just read that the U.K. are planning on making testing and quarantine more “difficult” .... I’m supposed to be going back in April, looks like it’ll be another cancelled trip and another 6 month wait
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Re: Anyone else finding it rather tough at the moment (Zurich)

The weird thing is I started loving it, the new normal. I think that my online or digital communication has much improved since last year, I don't eat junk food nor don't drink anymore yet I can go out whenever I like.
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