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Re: Commuting between UK and Switzerland

Know what you mean and share similar concerns. The improving situation within the country drives greater fear of variants entering from outside.
Given the awful death toll I can empathise but it's tough not being able to get back.
But I hope you're wrong as I booked a weekend steam train driving course with my son in Sep - can't miss out on that!
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But I hope you're wrong as I booked a weekend steam train driving course with my son in Sep - can't miss out on that!
Oh my god! Thats sounds amazing! Where is this epic adventure?
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With so few households involved now- surely they can check incoming flight records for the date/s - should be simple enough, no?
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Looks like last month's snow was just too tempting for the Brit's during the Lockdown to stay away.

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Re: Commuting between UK and Switzerland

Has anyone been to the UK and back by car recently?

It looks like I might need to go over there this coming week. My parents were supposed to go into a retirement home in Wales yesterday, but when they did the prerequisite Covid test, my father came up positive. He has no symptoms and was vaccinated in February, but of course the retirement home move has been delayed, and they are going to need help at their current home (near London) for a week or two, as they cannot manage on their own.

I know about the testing and quarantine rules, but the rules about who is actually allowed to travel between France and the UK at the moment only seem to consider death and a couple of other things as compelling family reasons. Visiting family members in need is not on the official list. Does anyone have recent experience of how much room for interpretation is being allowed by the border police? I am referring to the compelling reasons listed here:

(https://www.interieur.gouv.fr/Actual...ational-travel)
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Oh my god! Thats sounds amazing! Where is this epic adventure?
It's a small place with some big engines - 'Bredgar & Wormshill Railway' in Kent. They also have a traction engines and a huge American fire engine and other big boy toys. They're thinking about offering a 'driving taster' day where you get 30 mins drive on selection of them which would be rather awesome.
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Frankly I despair that international travel to the UK will ever get back to normal this year, even
with the vaccination program roll out going well; when you consider the epidemiotologists
that hold sway over the British government Covid briefings having a fit and almost going into hysterics;
whenever a new variant or mutation of the virus shows up in the UK, with politicians responding
with another & another 'batten down the hatches' mentality.

BBC News - Brazil variant: Search for mystery case narrows down to 379 households
Yes, I wonder about this. I fly into Birmingham and the direct flight was cut, it will be a complete nightmare for me if it doesn't return.

Maybe the number of flights in to the UK will take 2 or 3 years to return to pre-covid levels. Maybe in that time the idea of weekly commuting from the UK to Switzerland will seem a lot less realistic.
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I know about the testing and quarantine rules, but the rules about who is actually allowed to travel between France and the UK at the moment only seem to consider death and a couple of other things as compelling family reasons. Visiting family members in need is not on the official list. Does anyone have recent experience of how much room for interpretation is being allowed by the border police? I am referring to the compelling reasons listed here:
If you are a British citizen, I'm pretty sure they cannot refuse to let you return home.
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Re: Commuting between UK and Switzerland

Even if you are not resident? Link?
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Even if you are not resident? Link?
There are no restrictions at all on who can enter the UK from non-red list countries. Only restrictions on British residents leaving the UK. They can never stop a citizen entering the country. https://www.gov.uk/uk-border-control
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There are no restrictions at all on who can enter the UK from non-red list countries. Only restrictions on British residents leaving the UK. They can never stop a citizen entering the country. https://www.gov.uk/uk-border-control
Island Monkey is correct. If you are a citizen or legal resident you can enter the UK at any time.
Essentially:
- If you are a UK citizen/resident who has been in a red-list country, you will have to do hotel quarantine.
- If you are a UK citizen/resident who has NOT been in a red-list country, you will have to do home quarantine for 10 days (or 5, if you elect to do Test to Release).

On a separate note, I am vaguely optimistic that the UK will be out of the FOPH high risk countries list very soon. Reasons being:
- the UK 14 day case rate is now equal to/lower than Switzerland's
- the Brazilian variant seems contained
- the "UK variant" has been well-established in Switzerland for the last while, anyway, and the world has not ended.

I hope I am right . Waiting patiently for this week's update to the high risk list...
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- the "UK variant" has been well-established in Switzerland for the last while, anyway, and the world has not ended.

I hope I am right . Waiting patiently for this week's update to the high risk list...
The world might not have ended but for those hoping to Save Summer in 2021. I reckon your flying on 'a wing and a prayer'
to expect normal tourist travel to resume from the UK's hoped for relaxing of international travel restrictions by the 17th May.
Particularly with the acute disparity between countries on the vaccination rollout.
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The world might not have ended but for those hoping to Save Summer in 2021. I reckon your flying on 'a wing and a prayer'
to expect normal tourist travel to resume from the UK's hoped for relaxing of international travel restrictions by the 17th May.
Particularly with the acute disparity between countries on the vaccination rollout.
I, like many other people, am nowhere near thinking about normal tourist travel at the moment. All we hope for is easing of one/some/any restrictions in order to be able to see our immediate family.
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Article 12(4), International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.
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Island Monkey is correct. If you are a citizen or legal resident you can enter the UK at any time.
Essentially:
- If you are a UK citizen/resident who has been in a red-list country, you will have to do hotel quarantine.
- If you are a UK citizen/resident who has NOT been in a red-list country, you will have to do home quarantine for 10 days (or 5, if you elect to do Test to Release).

On a separate note, I am vaguely optimistic that the UK will be out of the FOPH high risk countries list very soon. Reasons being:
- the UK 14 day case rate is now equal to/lower than Switzerland's
- the Brazilian variant seems contained
- the "UK variant" has been well-established in Switzerland for the last while, anyway, and the world has not ended.

I hope I am right . Waiting patiently for this week's update to the high risk list...
You can always book an Airbnb in Northern Ireland for your quarantine then fly over to GB and avoid the hotel quarantine system.
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You can always book an Airbnb in Northern Ireland for your quarantine then fly over to GB and avoid the hotel quarantine system.
No hotel quarantine for Swiss > U.K. travellers. I think what Abcd is hoping for is that Switzerland removes the U.K. from the Swiss quarantine list.
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Re: Commuting between UK and Switzerland

All travellers LEAVING the UK now have to complete the departure form from today onwards. If you get spot checked and you're found to be going on holiday and not a valid readon expect to get fined:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavi...ational-travel

This is on top of the usual locator form rubbish for when you come back into the UK.

Update on Heathrow - 90 mins queueing time to get through Border Control last Friday. A workmate had 3 hours last Tuesday so seems completely random depending upon how many planes land around the time you want to enter the country.
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Island Monkey is correct. If you are a citizen or legal resident you can enter the UK at any time.
Essentially:
- If you are a UK citizen/resident who has been in a red-list country, you will have to do hotel quarantine.
- If you are a UK citizen/resident who has NOT been in a red-list country, you will have to do home quarantine for 10 days (or 5, if you elect to do Test to Release).

On a separate note, I am vaguely optimistic that the UK will be out of the FOPH high risk countries list very soon. Reasons being:
- the UK 14 day case rate is now equal to/lower than Switzerland's
- the Brazilian variant seems contained
- the "UK variant" has been well-established in Switzerland for the last while, anyway, and the world has not ended.

I hope I am right . Waiting patiently for this week's update to the high risk list...
The potential problem isn't getting into the UK, it's getting back into the EU afterwards. The official French rules say that if you leave France to return to your home country outside of the EU, they cannot guarantee that you will be allowed back, unless you left the EU for a compelling reason.

Ressortissant de pays tiers, titulaire d’un titre de séjour ou d’un visa de long séjour français ou européen en cours de validité, ayant sa résidence principale en France ou qui rejoint, en transit par la France, sa résidence principale dans un pays de l’Union européenne ou assimilé (valable uniquement si le déplacement à l’étranger est intervenu avant le 31 janvier 2021 ou était justifié par un motif impérieux)

Source: https://www.interieur.gouv.fr/Actual...t-et-de-voyage

The list of "compelling reasons" is only indicative, so it's very much open to the interpretation of the border police.

Edit: I could avoid all the hassle by flying directly from CH to the UK of course, but I'm terrified of flying and will only do it as an absolute last resort.
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