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Commuting between UK and Switzerland

Hi there, I'm new to the Forum - my name is Steve and I live in Morges, Vaud. I started my job here in September 2020, and have a rented apartment. My family is in the UK so I planned to travel between the UK and Switzerland most weekends, or they would come to visit me. Of course it hasn't worked out that way and it is getting very difficult to travel at all now.

I would love to hear from anyone else in this situation, share experiences, and see how you are managing
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I've cancelled 3 trips back to the UK in the last 10 months, and looking like I'll have to cancel April/May's too. Managed to see my family for 2 days in August, that's it and I'm totally losing the will to live
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Hi there, I'm new to the Forum - my name is Steve and I live in Morges, Vaud. I started my job here in September 2020, and have a rented apartment. My family is in the UK so I planned to travel between the UK and Switzerland most weekends, or they would come to visit me. Of course it hasn't worked out that way and it is getting very difficult to travel at all now.

I would love to hear from anyone else in this situation, share experiences, and see how you are managing
I'm in the same situation and haven't been back to Zurich since late December, so I feel your agony. I can only hope that with the vaccination campaign success and continued reduction in cases in CH, some sort of travel will be possible soon
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Re: Commuting between UK and Switzerland

Same here, I was planning to travel back the UK most weekends when I started my contract here. Now there are no direct flights from Zurich-Manchester at all, the only UK flight seems to be weekly Zurich-Heathrow and that is over a grand.

Hopefully Switzerland and the UK will be amongst the fastest vaccinating their populations so they can start flights again.

It wouldn't be so bad if the bars were open. Spending 7 days a week in an aparthotel drinking aldi booze is getting to me now.
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Even if you can get a flight back to the UK, you would now have to quarantine in a hotel for 2 weeks at a cost of £1750
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Even if you can get a flight back to the UK, you would now have to quarantine in a hotel for 2 weeks at a cost of £1750
I know, it's mental.
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Re: Commuting between UK and Switzerland

I think you only need to do the hotel quarantine if you're travelling from a country on the red list, which Switzerland isn't on:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/how-to-q...ive-in-england

At the moment you have to quarantine for ten days, but it can be at a private home, and you need to take two tests.
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Same here, I was planning to travel back the UK most weekends when I started my contract here. Now there are no direct flights from Zurich-Manchester at all, the only UK flight seems to be weekly Zurich-Heathrow and that is over a grand.
Easyjet continue to fly from Geneva direct to Gatwick with flights from around 50-60 CHF. Not ideal if you want to fly ZRH to Manchester, especially once you factor in quarantine regulations. A look at Skyscanner shows you can fly ZRH-MAN with KLM for 200-300 CHF but it involves a change at AMS. And again, there's quarantine + testing certificates to include in the equation so unless you're planning on a trip of several weeks it's not really worth it. But it is possible.
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The isolation continues to take its toll, physically and mentally.
For the more well-read and up-to-date than me: is there any hint so far on when Swiss quarantine for people coming in from the UK will cease?
I can’t seem to find any hint of an update on this.
The rates in the UK are dropping like a stone...
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The isolation continues to take its toll, physically and mentally.
For the more well-read and up-to-date than me: is there any hint so far on when Swiss quarantine for people coming in from the UK will cease?
I can’t seem to find any hint of an update on this.
The rates in the UK are dropping like a stone...
It won’t be announced until it is off the list. Unfortunately the U.K. going on the list was never about case numbers, but about the variants. South Africa went on the banned list at the same time as U.K. and its rates are very low, but it’s about stopping the SA variant arriving here.
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It won’t be announced until it is off the list. Unfortunately the U.K. going on the list was never about case numbers, but about the variants. South Africa went on the banned list at the same time as U.K. and its rates are very low, but it’s about stopping the SA variant arriving here.
There seems to be a lot of panic in the UK over the travellers who entered the UK from Brazil via Zürich on LX318. Yet strangely not much hype about this on Swiss media? I would’ve thought one would be worried about the remaining plane load of passengers that arrived with them into Zürich...
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There seems to be a lot of panic in the UK over the travellers who entered the UK from Brazil via Zürich on LX318. Yet strangely not much hype about this on Swiss media? I would’ve thought one would be worried about the remaining plane load of passengers that arrived with them into Zürich...
That flight was on the 10th of Feb.... but bloody late to worry about it now! I assume anyone just on the Brazil Zürich leg would have been required to do 10 days quarantine here?
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That flight was on the 10th of Feb.... but bloody late to worry about it now! I assume anyone just on the Brazil Zürich leg would have been required to do 10 days quarantine here?
One would hope they would quarantine... may not be the same in the UK given the lax enforcement of home quarantine ;-) I certainly agree it’s too late to worry! And not even sure if our worry about the variants is wholly justified in the first place - SA’s numbers remain very low despite the variant circling around over there! Brazil’s numbers are of course high but they’ve essentially done nothing about it throughout the pandemic....
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There seems to be a lot of panic in the UK over the travellers who entered the UK from Brazil via Zürich on LX318. Yet strangely not much hype about this on Swiss media? I would’ve thought one would be worried about the remaining plane load of passengers that arrived with them into Zürich...
Personally I think in this whole sorry affair, the group that will look worst are the UK media. At every turn they have pressured the government into more and more draconian measures. I think it will eventually be seen that a more relaxed approach would have been better for the people and the economy.

From my own point of view, I managed to travel back to the UK a few times in the summer, but had my plans for Christmas ruined by a panicked Matt Hancock appearing on TV saying some variant of the virus was out of control (it is normal for viruses to mutate and that is how they get weaker).

One question I have is, do you actually have to do a full 10 day quarantine in the uk? It would appear not if someone is travelling back and fourth every weekend. What happens on day 8 when you need to do another testPCR test in the UK?
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One question I have is, do you actually have to do a full 10 day quarantine in the uk? It would appear not if someone is travelling back and fourth every weekend. What happens on day 8 when you need to do another testPCR test in the UK?

Normal travellers to England have to do the 10 days quarantine and are supposed to also book tests on day 2 and 8. They are checking this at Heathrow now and the cause of the bigger delays recently. For red listed countries this is in the hotels at cost to the traveller.

Weekly commuters are exempt from all quarantine under the rules so you only need a weekly PCR test and that's to get back in Switzerland not for entry to England:

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...ar-work-abroad

You only need an antigen test to get into England, which is why I said if the Swiss changed to match the UK it would be a whole lot easier and cheaper.

Officially regular commuters are actually exempt from testing as well as per the same link, but try proving that to a Swiss member of staff who wouldn't let you on the plane without the negative Covid test.

The other thing is that in the last couple of weeks Border Patrol in the UK are also asking for proof of your return flight back to Switzerland to prove you are indeed commuting just for the weekend.
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Personally I think in this whole sorry affair, the group that will look worst are the UK media. At every turn they have pressured the government into more and more draconian measures. I think it will eventually be seen that a more relaxed approach would have been better for the people and the economy.

From my own point of view, I managed to travel back to the UK a few times in the summer, but had my plans for Christmas ruined by a panicked Matt Hancock appearing on TV saying some variant of the virus was out of control (it is normal for viruses to mutate and that is how they get weaker).

One question I have is, do you actually have to do a full 10 day quarantine in the uk? It would appear not if someone is travelling back and fourth every weekend. What happens on day 8 when you need to do another testPCR test in the UK?
Same here as well - still waiting on a refund on the flight from ZRH to LHR that got cancelled over Christmas because of the variant 🙄

Because Switzerland is not in the “red list” you wouldn’t have to do 10 days in the Uk - you could end your quarantine if you test negative on day 5 via “test to release”.
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It won’t be announced until it is off the list. Unfortunately the U.K. going on the list was never about case numbers, but about the variants. South Africa went on the banned list at the same time as U.K. and its rates are very low, but it’s about stopping the SA variant arriving here.
The problem with the UK is how good they are at sequencing. According to the Economist the UK does more sequencing than the rest of the world put together, so it is inevitable that they will find the variants first, since no other country is really looking. Then they get named with a country tag, and that lends weight to the easy media narrative (at least in the UK) that travellers are the source of all infection, which probably means quarantine is here to stay. The same variants are developing entirely independently of each other around the world (again from the Economist this week) which means it isn't travellers that are necessarily causing the problems.
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The problem with the UK is how good they are at sequencing. According to the Economist the UK does more sequencing than the rest of the world put together, so it is inevitable that they will find the variants first, since no other country is really looking. Then they get named with a country tag, and that lends weight to the easy media narrative (at least in the UK) that travellers are the source of all infection, which probably means quarantine is here to stay. The same variants are developing entirely independently of each other around the world (again from the Economist this week) which means it isn't travellers that are necessarily causing the problems.
You’re quite right, I also read somewhere that the Uk does the highest rates of genome sequencing (half of all the ones that are being done, or something to that tune). If that is indeed true, then the fact that we have “only” found six cases (so far) must surely be comforting?! And yes, certainly suits the nationalistic narrative of the UK media.
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Re: Commuting between UK and Switzerland

I think the biggest challenge after I've worked out all the rules, is not getting too stressed-out about the very many things happening right now over which I have no control whatsoever!
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