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My wife and I regularly give to organisations that help in both Vaud and in Geneva. But we now never give money on the street. If they ask for help, I am happy to give them the names of the organizations that can help. Often, they arenít interested.
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My wife and I regularly give to organisations that help in both Vaud and in Geneva. But we now never give money on the street. If they ask for help, I am happy to give them the names of the organizations that can help. Often, they arenít interested.
Often, I'm pretty sure I was asked if I have a spare coin by people who obviously needed it for their fix - alcohol, drugs, whatevs. So I'm not surprised they're not interested in charitable organisations.
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Often, I'm pretty sure I was asked if I have a spare coin by people who obviously needed it for their fix - alcohol, drugs, whatevs. So I'm not surprised they're not interested in charitable organisations.
Thatís the point. Many years ago I did work for a while for a social service. While I was working with disabled folks did I know the local homeless shelter well. They have a lot of rules and the first one is a clear no to alcohol and drugs in their rooms. Thatís a difficult one as some people are so addicted that they literally freeze to death instead of missing their stuff... but thatís what they got to do.

The anti begging law was not introduced for the odd Swiss guy on the street, but the organized gangs that visit richer European cities every summer. I fully support it. Last year I witnessed a conflict between a local homeless and the Eastern European men behind the women who beg with the babies... thatís not poverty but clearly organized crime exploiting the poor. Any law that prevents it - even with some side effects - is a good one.
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After learning of it's popularity, I took a stroll on the Beggars of Basel tour. A narrow range of Eastern European folk sporting a wide range of blankets.
Real or fake? Or are they like the statue people you essentially pay for staying in the same spot?
Countenances that would touch the stoutest heart. I always feel torn between the Mail and the Guardian.
Now that the weather's warmed up it's skyrocketed. You can't move in de Wette Park or surroundings without tripping over a gang of beggars sleeping. I'm not exagerating.

It will be interesting to see how this is enforced once the ban comes back into effect. It was an annoyance before, but it's escalated into a problem and will soon be something resembling a crisis if it continues on this trajectory.
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I was shopping in Migros and a normal dressed guy came to me....

Him: I am hungry, I don't want money, just something to eat.
Me: I am not loaded but if you are genuinely hungry, I will buy you something to eat. What would you like?
Him: XL pack of pampers.

I walked away!

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Sounds like the guy who used to be outside of my local Denner in Basel who's now been usurped by the dare I say more organised begging troupe taking over Basel at the moment.


Even if there's a law against it it's also been deemed not illegal when it's seen to be the only option. As someone else mentioned begging is hassling people for money whereas receiving donations for sitting on the street in the cold is not.
Not long ago there used to be people who came from door to door to beg for money. It was an organized thing apparently. The big boss behind it all took home millions and got the red carpet treatment when he went to Bern to tell the Bundesrat what to do.

And then he talked the government into making a law that everybody must pay. And the people of Switzerland even approved that in a vote. That just shows how much power he has.

Yeah, Billag was the name.

These Roma groups are harmless amateurs by comparison. They have so much to learn.

Can produce better music than SRG. Can produce better cookery than SRG. But Basel won't let them take our money for it.
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