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How would the GP surgery know you've left the UK anyway.
Exactly, we had an au pair, 15 years later she got a letter to say her Dr was retiring & this was the name of her new Dr!
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We have fully vaccinated close to 400'000 people. In roughly 2 months. Pretty bad
Given UK vaccination is the title of this thread let's compare that with the UK

We have fully vaccinated about 4.7% of the population vs the UK 2.6%.
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Old 17.03.2021, 18:24
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Given UK vaccination is the title of this thread let's compare that with the UK

We have fully vaccinated about 4.7% of the population vs the UK 2.6%.
Apples and oranges. UK has very many more oranges.
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Old 17.03.2021, 18:26
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Given UK vaccination is the title of this thread let's compare that with the UK

We have fully vaccinated about 4.7% of the population vs the UK 2.6%.
But they did it with a speed of light. And CH slower and fewer people.
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Old 17.03.2021, 18:31
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In Malta everyone under 70 gets AZ, which is how my wife is getting AZ on Monday. Some friends in the 70-80 age group have not been vaccinated yet are somewhat pissed off According to the chief medical officer AZ is up to 94% effective after just 1 jab based on actual experience to date.
Spain had already banned the AstraZeneca - Oxford vaccine for anyone over 55 living in Spain, this
being before the present concern over any possible links to blood-clotting caused by the AZ which made
Spain ( like some other EU countries ) suspend the the use of the AZ vaccine altogether until
the EU's EMA produces a report on the matter on Thursday.

Daily Express - Spain bans AstraZeneca vaccine to over 55's
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Old 17.03.2021, 18:33
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How would the GP surgery know you've left the UK anyway.
Mine have known I've been in Switzerland since 2016, they contact me by phone from time to time over an issue they're supposed to be treating me for that was a misdiagnosed (I don't actually have it). Every time I make it clear to them I'm in Basel.
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Given UK vaccination is the title of this thread let's compare that with the UK

We have fully vaccinated about 4.7% of the population vs the UK 2.6%.

Do you want to vaccinate 50% (the UK) with a very high 75%+ "protection" . Or 5% at 95% "protection".
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How would the GP surgery know you've left the UK anyway.
You tell them? Otherwise if they get returned mail or can't get through by phone they can deregister you (but not necessarily know you've left the UK)
I had a former tenant who went after a year or so to what used to be his local practice and they refused to see him as they knew he was no longer living at my house. I don't think that was correct of them though but he did lie to them about him still living at my place.

I heard that surgeries get a certain amount of funding per patient, whether they're seen or not so there's no incentive for the surgery to check-up on patients.

UK healthcare is often seen as a soft touch and I have to say that these days I tend to agree.
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Old 17.03.2021, 18:55
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You tell them? Otherwise if they get returned mail or can't get through by phone they can deregister you (but not necessarily know you've left the UK)
I had a former tenant who went after a year or so to what used to be his local practice and they refused to see him as they knew he was no longer living at my house. I don't think that was correct of them though but he did lie to them about him still living at my place.

I heard that surgeries get a certain amount of funding per patient, whether they're seen or not so there's no incentive for the surgery to check-up on patients.

UK healthcare is often seen as a soft touch and I have to say that these days I tend to agree.
I am probably on a list in London, don't have the same phone no as I did in 1994
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Would you feel safer travelling getting at least the 1st jab here, though? I think the risk of getting infected en route is real, at least for me...I'd worry about bringing the bug with me..Which can be reality no matter of the vaccine, I know.
There really isnt that great a risk of being infected en route when every single person on the plane has had to have a suitable test beforehand and many will have had PCR tests especially if they need to transit onwards to other countries.

There's of course still a tiny possibility but probably much less than walking round your local supermarket.
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According to the chief medical officer AZ is up to 94% effective after just 1 jab based on actual experience to date.
Wasn't the AZ - 94 per cent effective figure found in trial patients that had accidently been given a half-dose of
the AZ vaccine, as their first dose followed by the full dose of the AZ vaccine for their 2nd dose.

As the AZ effectiveness or efficacy of 2 full doses was found to be overall 70.4 per cent effective.

Of course AZ have pressed ahead with trials to prove whether the 1st dose ( half-dose ) and 2nd dose
( full-dose ) method is truely more effective.
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Old 17.03.2021, 19:03
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Wasn't the AZ - 94 per cent effective figure found in trial patients that had accidently been given a half-dose of
the AZ vaccine, as their first dose followed by the full dose of the AZ vaccine for their 2nd dose.

As the AZ effectiveness or efficacy of 2 full doses was found to be overall 70.4 per cent effective.

Of course AZ have pressed ahead with trials to prove whether the 1st dose ( half-dose ) and 2nd dose
( full-dose ) method is truely more effective.
Just looking at what is happening in the UK shows its pretty effective, the 94% may be preventing hospital treatment.
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Do you want to vaccinate 50% (the UK) with a very high 75%+ "protection" . Or 5% at 95% "protection".
You are mixing Apples and Peaches

Partially Vaccinated
Switzerland 15.3%
UK 38%

Fully Vaccinated
Switzerland 4.7%
Uk 2.6%

What do I want? First up the majority of continental Europe to be fully vaccinated, and then (because I'm selfish) rest of world. We will succeed or fail together.
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You are mixing Apples and Peaches

Partially Vaccinated
Switzerland 15.3%
UK 38%

Fully Vaccinated
Switzerland 4.7%
Uk 2.6%

What do I want? First up the majority of continental Europe to be fully vaccinated, and then (because I'm selfish) rest of world. We will succeed or fail together.

And you were cherry picking. Either way the UK has done a decent job. I hope Europe picks up the pace but with seemingly politics being played over the vaccines and the hesitancy it may engender, I have concerns.
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How would the GP surgery know you've left the UK anyway.
Because by UK Law you have to de-register when you move abroad.

''Overseas visitors & UK patients who have moved abroad or live abroad for most of the yearThe NHS is a residence-based healthcare system. Therefore, once you have moved permanently away from the UKor the UK is no longer your primary place of residence during the year, you are no longer entitled to medical treatment under normal NHS rules.Past or present payment of UK taxes or National Insurance contributions are not taken into account when establishing eligibility to receive free NHS treatment. NHS eligibility relates to being ‘ordinarily resident’ in the United Kingdom. Overseas visitors are defined as persons of any nationality, including British nationals, not normally resident in the UK.You must notify your former GP when you move so that you and your family are removed from the NHS register.''
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Regardless of whether you have an invite from a UK practice, from the NHS website:
Overseas visitors to England, including anyone living in the UK without permission, will not be charged for:
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vaccination against coronavirus
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You are mixing Apples and Peaches

Partially Vaccinated
Switzerland 15.3%
UK 38%

Fully Vaccinated
Switzerland 4.7%
Uk 2.6%

What do I want? First up the majority of continental Europe to be fully vaccinated, and then (because I'm selfish) rest of world. We will succeed or fail together.
I get significantly different percentages WRT CH.
Shots delivered is distinct from shots administered. And it looks like you double-count the shots of the fully vaccinated.

Data from covid19.admin.ch
- 1.3 mln doses have been delivered
- 1.1 mln doses have been administered
-- thereof 395k fully vaccinated double-shots, that's 4.57% of the population (the total seem to be 8.6mln)
-- that leaves 310k single-shots "already" administered, 3.6% of the population
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Because by UK Law you have to de-register when you move abroad.
I would say, without any particular specialist knowledge, that it would be against the law to attempt to seek free non-exceptional NHS treatment as a UK-resident when you're not in fact one but that failing to notify your GP probably isn't against the law.
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Because by UK Law you have to de-register when you move abroad.

''Overseas visitors & UK patients who have moved abroad or live abroad for most of the yearThe NHS is a residence-based healthcare system. Therefore, once you have moved permanently away from the UKor the UK is no longer your primary place of residence during the year, you are no longer entitled to medical treatment under normal NHS rules.Past or present payment of UK taxes or National Insurance contributions are not taken into account when establishing eligibility to receive free NHS treatment. NHS eligibility relates to being ‘ordinarily resident’ in the United Kingdom. Overseas visitors are defined as persons of any nationality, including British nationals, not normally resident in the UK.You must notify your former GP when you move so that you and your family are removed from the NHS register.''
Can you quote which law is being broken by not informing the GP you’ve moved abroad please. Let me know what the punishment is also

Not talking about using the services. But I can’t imagine anyone will care if you stay registered at your GP. I know they never did when I lived in CH
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Can you quote which law is being broken by not informing the GP youíve moved abroad please. Let me know what the punishment is also

Not talking about using the services. But I canít imagine anyone will care if you stay registered at your GP. I know they never did when I lived in CH
I guess Iím in the doodoo if there is such a law as I never deregistered from the GP practice in Slough when we left the U.K. and I donít think hubby did either.
Technically I suppose Iím still registered with them but would imagine they removed me long ago.
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