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Old 27.02.2021, 20:37
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Was her name Madame Defarge?

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Isn't that an AC/DC album?

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Yeah, but who made you?
Did you ever read the Galactic Milieu books by Julian May?

Or, for that matter, Terry Pratchett's discworld novels?

Both, and indeed there are a plethora of others in the sci-fi/fantasy genre, offer some interesting (and at times amusing) insights into some of the creation myths, and are at least as plausible as any of the religious-inspired ideas.

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One good ground for agnosticism rather than full-on atheism.
You reckon?

Naah, think I'll stick with my cast-iron certainty that there is no god, TYVM.
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Old 27.02.2021, 22:32
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We ran out of conspiracies... apparently conspiracy people are not very keen on posting in the conspiracy thread. Conspiracy?
It's ok - California Dreamer has kicked off over here: https://www.englishforum.ch/internat...ropaganda.html
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Many scientists were and are religious, Einstein for one. While religion cannot be confirmed, it cannot be falsified either. So it‘s perfectly compatible with a wide range of Weltanschauungen. I‘m happy to pay church tax; they do a lot of sensible things. That said, „I don‘t believe in God but I miss Him.“ (Julian Barnes)

IMHO seeing humanity as a part of something bigger is a necessary antidote to hybris. We are far too good at forgetting how interdependent we are with everything around us. The Covid-19 pandemic is a case in point. Perhaps the comparatively new-fangled monotheistic religions are not good examples of humility in the face of their God‘s creation. Our ancestors were probably closer to pantheism and animism, thanking the animals they killed for food and remembering to fear the wrath of nature. A state I admire. Then again, if I have to picture something like a deity, it is a teddy bear that appears before my inner eye.

I don‘t know the books mentioned above. My favourite utopia/dystopia is „A Children‘s Bible“ by Lydia Millet. Her „Love in Infant Monkeys“ fits with the teddy bear. (It was the title of Harlow‘s notorious paper on mother-models. When it comes right down to it, I believe God is a parent projection.)
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Old 27.02.2021, 23:59
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Re: Covid+ Conspiracy Theories/Claims

Gaaah! It´s way to late on a Saturday evening to tune into this thread. But, hey ho, here we are.
If you, like me, believe that there is no god, you have to accept that there is no afterlife, the one thing that all religions peddle as the endgame, your reward for a pious life so to speak.
Without a god there is..:
Nothing.
No time.
No place.
No being.
No feeling.
No you.
No future.
No past.
Are you basically the nothing from where you were before you were born? Alive for just a few short years between the big bang and the heat death of the universe?
And if you really want to stare into the darkness tonight when you go to bed then you may try and contemplate death before time began and after time ends.

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