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Talk to you later 23.02.2021 11:24

Covid+ Conspiracy Theories/Claims
 
Feel free to share what you think Corona Conspiracy is all about :confused:

Pandemic leaves Europeans more likely to believe conspiracy theories



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Talk to you later 23.02.2021 11:39

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Just to be clear, I have no opinion just questions. If there is really some low or high level conspiracy then the questions I have are-

1) Who benefits?
2) How can such a global conspiracy be kept secret?
3) Which country has benefited financially and politically most from this pandemic?
4) How can medical researchers and scientists be controlled so thoroughly?

bowlie 23.02.2021 11:46

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I have a question. Do we really need another Coronavirus thread?

Talk to you later 23.02.2021 11:48

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Originally Posted by bowlie (Post 3278831)
I have a question. Do we really need another Coronavirus thread?


According to the other Coronavirus thread, yes. This one deals with non-mainstream questions, also it will be more focused :p

leonie 23.02.2021 12:01

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Originally Posted by Talk to you later (Post 3278826)
Just to be clear, I have no opinion just questions. If there is really some low or high level conspiracy then the questions I have are-

1) Who benefits?
2) How can such a global conspiracy be kept secret?
3) Which country has benefited financially and politically most from this pandemic?
4) How can medical researchers and scientists be controlled so thoroughly?

(2) Global conspiracies are not a secret, there are thousands of conspiracy theories around.

Talk to you later 23.02.2021 12:03

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Originally Posted by leonie (Post 3278843)
(2) Global conspiracies are not a secret, there are thousands of conspiracy theories around.


You mean real or imaginary ones?

Axa 23.02.2021 12:12

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Originally Posted by Talk to you later (Post 3278826)
3) Which country has benefited financially and politically most from this pandemic?

This one has to be rewritten. Countries are just a large group of individuals.

Anyway, yes some politicians have gained politically and some individuals have made a financial profit after the events.

A rough measure of how no country (understood as a group of individuals) has benefited financially is the GDP decrease. Swiss pharma and banks may win, but not enough to compensate the loses from airlines, restaurants, and all services not being offered now.

FairDinkum 23.02.2021 12:13

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Talktoyou, I am just trying to answer some of the questions you raised , I got distracted because I had some work to do, ..I'll be here in few minutes :D

leonie 23.02.2021 12:25

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Originally Posted by Talk to you later (Post 3278847)
You mean real or imaginary ones?

People start making conspiracies from the age of four, so I would think that there are plenty of both real and imaginary conspiracies around.

MusicChick 23.02.2021 12:33

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Originally Posted by leonie (Post 3278867)
People start making conspiracies from the age of four, so I would think that there are plenty of both real and imaginary conspiracies around.

Piaget would break it down to details on cognitive development. Sometimes it simply means that one can think, that one is resilient or that one does not trust.

I need to buy FFP2 to send to family, whyyyyyyy is it so expensive? Is it the kids making cash for their Ferraries again?

Why is China trying to pawn Coronavirus's origin on the USA?

Talk to you later 23.02.2021 12:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by leonie (Post 3278867)
People start making conspiracies from the age of four, so I would think that there are plenty of both real and imaginary conspiracies around.

Ok got it, I was not sure what you meant ;)

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Originally Posted by FairDinkum (Post 3278859)
Talktoyou, I am just trying to answer some of the questions you raised , I got distracted because I had some work to do, ..I'll be here in few minutes :D

No problem, just remember that time-wasting is more important than work. Jobs come and go but time-wasting always stays loyal to you :D

k_and_e 23.02.2021 12:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Talk to you later (Post 3278826)
Just to be clear, I have no opinion just questions. If there is really some low or high level conspiracy then the questions I have are-

1) Who benefits?
2) How can such a global conspiracy be kept secret?
3) Which country has benefited financially and politically most from this pandemic?
4) How can medical researchers and scientists be controlled so thoroughly?

I think you don't ask the right questions.
First one is valid.
For two and four: you don't need secrecy or control - instead only creating mass-panic or mass-hysteria would be sufficient. Nobody seems to care about facts anyway.
Three: it doesn't need to be a country that would benefit.

California Dreamer 23.02.2021 13:03

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Simple mathmatics could give us an answer. If we take the ch**a virus;) (2) add in the Great Reset (2) then the obvious answer would be 5.

2+2=5. See 1984

Duh, I thought everyone knew this.

Also: Bill Gates ;)

MidfieldGeneral 23.02.2021 13:17

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Originally Posted by Talk to you later (Post 3278815)
Feel free to share what you think Corona Conspiracy is all about :confused:

Excellent thread idea, TTYL. I have pretty well zero tolerance for conspiracy theorists because in general they seem to think that through their gut feelings they have better knowledge than others. I had a chat with one recently who said (without putting forward one fact) that C-19 was a conspiracy by governments to destroy the economy and control people: this man has a degree, is middle aged and has a family and a good job.

Regarding Covid 19, I am genuinely horrified by the covid denialists, anti vaxxers and anti big pharma people crawling out of the woodwork.

Having said the above, I don't know what to make of it or have any conclusions

Cherub 23.02.2021 13:41

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"This one has to be rewritten. Countries are just a large group of individuals".

I keep a postcard next to my desk that says "Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups" :D

FairDinkum 23.02.2021 14:02

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First of all, this is how things go :
known liars , the ones who are part of a corrupt system and do nothing about it .. the ones who are in the highest positions , doing some revolving doors careers, when they tell you a lie and you're not buying it they say "oh you are a complotist" :o

The method is to strip you off your own capability of reasoning therefore you even feel guilty if you try (like, omg ,I cant doubt them I'm not some nutcase) , so basically we've come to a point when we can not say out loud or point a finger at some ridiculous c**p we've been fed in this last year .... like, hmmm masks . Masks are useless (gov.officials) , then, masks should be worn only by very ill people (yeah, those ones with 42C who are shopping at coop ,hopping on a bus, going to a theater play?) :) ? , then , oh Masks should be worn even by healthy people.. But healthy people can carry the virus, they're not ill, but somehow the virus can jump on to the person next you ...and (magic word) contaminaaate them (?) :o

For people who did go to med.school can you imagine how hard it is, to swallow this? For the simple reason because it's known how any of these pathogens (common cold, flu) first we get them through the eye mucosa. (this is why , Fauci said how we should all wear goggles) :) To continue, so now, masks, I mean mouth nappies everywhere, even for toddlers, with the scientific explanation how we NEED that until the vaccine becomes available . right. Now that the vaccine has arrived , oh no, YOU still have to wear the nappy , and everyone ,nose covered, doesnt matter if you're vaccinated .. and as a matter of fact, you'll have to wear masks , perhaps even until 2025 .

Honestly , I think every intelligent being , members of the forum here , even the ones who are the most afraid ones , the ones who are old school and still believe how there are gov. institutions, believe how it's impossible the authorities to be lying to us , mocking with us, toying... many times did a facepalm and felt how someone is messing with their brain -big time, when they heard all this nonsense , mental abuse, contradictory statements from these wonderful people who are doing everything to save our lives . :)

Mind you, this is not a new thing ..This has been done by the church/religion for centuries. In our age , it turns out , science has replaced religion . As a matter of fact we are experiencing dogma in every sense of the term.

marton 23.02.2021 14:03

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The popular approach at the moment is people trying to apply ideas over one hundred years old to the modern world.
Look at Koch, the poor guy who did his best with his postulates but at that time viruses had not even been discovered.

California Dreamer 23.02.2021 14:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FairDinkum (Post 3278913)
First of all, this is how things go :
known liars , the ones who are part of a corrupt system and do nothing about it .. the ones who are in the highest positions , doing some revolving doors careers, when they tell you a lie and you're not buying it they say "oh you are a complotist" :o

The method is to strip you off your own capability of reasoning therefore you even feel guilty if you try (like, omg ,I cant doubt them I'm not some nutcase) , so basically we've come to a point when we can not say out loud or point a finger at some ridiculous c**p we've been fed in this last year .... like, hmmm masks . Masks are useless (gov.officials) , then, masks should be worn only by very ill people (yeah, those ones with 42C who are shopping at coop ,hopping on a bus, going to a theater play?) :) ? , then , oh Masks should be worn even by healthy people.. But healthy people can carry the virus, they're not ill, but somehow the virus can jump on to the person next you ...and (magic word) contaminaaate them (?) :o

For people who did go to med.school can you imagine how hard it is, to swallow this? For the simple reason because it's known how any of these pathogens (common cold, flu) first we get them through the eye mucosa. (this is why , Fauci said how we should all wear goggles) :) To continue, so now, masks, I mean mouth nappies everywhere, even for toddlers, with the scientific explanation how we NEED that until the vaccine becomes available . right. Now that the vaccine has arrived , oh no, YOU still have to wear the nappy , and everyone ,nose covered, doesnt matter if you're vaccinated .. and as a matter of fact, you'll have to wear masks , perhaps even until 2025 .

Honestly , I think every intelligent being , members of the forum here , even the ones who are the most afraid ones , the ones who are old school and still believe how there are gov. institutions, believe how it's impossible the authorities to be lying to us , mocking with us, toying... many times did a facepalm and felt how someone is messing with their brain -big time, when they heard all this nonsense , mental abuse, contradictory statements from these wonderful people who are doing everything to save our lives . :)

Mind you, this is not a new thing ..This has been done by the church/religion for centuries. In our age , it turns out , science has replaced religion . As a matter of fact we are experiencing dogma in every sense of the term.


Psyops 101.

"We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.” William Casey, CIA Director

FairDinkum 23.02.2021 14:23

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not only that Midfield's friend , but many scientists , doctors etc have spoken out how we're experiencing a serious authoritarian dictature ..

In fact, what's the funniest is how we've been even told , why all this is happening .
Klaus Schwab the guy who is the founder and executive chairman of the World Economic Forum representing himself the elite , wrote a book called Covid-19 The Great Reset ..and before that , he wrote and explained The Fourth Industrial Revolution.

So while they keep us locked inside, the whole economy is just about to get destroyed (hospitality , tourism, culture..etc ,the nonessential:p) they're preparing something new , a new concept , new world. unfortunately for us not it will not be a progress , rather something like neo-feudalism.. So, there will not be cheap flights to tenerife or porto but you can go from basel to zh and get through 4 checkpoints 3 tests ( new jobs emerging) . This is what they are preparing and they even have the audacity to tell us that while at the same time they keep us shut making each one of us -guilty- of murder if we open our mouth and breathe and say "hey what's this c**p" .

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MidfieldGeneral 23.02.2021 14:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FairDinkum (Post 3278927)
not only that Midfield's friend , but many scientists , doctors etc have spoken out how we're experiencing a serious authoritarian dictature ..

In fact, what's the funniest is how we've been even told , why all this is happening .
Klaus Schwab the guy who is the founder and executive chairman of the World Economic Forum representing himself the elite , wrote a book called Covid-19 The Great Reset ..and before that , he wrote and explained The Fourth Industrial Revolution.

So while they keep us locked inside, the whole economy is just about to get destroyed (hospitality , tourism, culture..etc ,the nonessential:p) they're preparing something new , a new concept , new world. unfortunately for us not it will not be a progress , rather something like neo-feudalism.. So, there will not be cheap flights to tenerife or porto but you can go from basel to zh and get through 4 checkpoints 3 tests ( new jobs emerging) . This is what they are preparing and they even have the audacity to tell us that while at the same time they keep us shut making each one of us -guilty- of murder if we open our mouth and breathe and say "hey what's this c**p" .

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so do you think these lockdowns are a conspiracy? what would you have done otherwise to fight the Covid threat to lives?


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