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Re: British Expats would you travel to the UK to get the jab earlier than anywhere el

There's no such thing as a UK resident card or a UK national id card, some
MP's tried to introduce a National id card for British citizens but the idea
was voted out of Parliament, for foreigners no doubt becoming British
citizens has right of residency included, as there's always been the option
for British citizenship of course.

Therefore the closest the UK gets to a resident card is the Indefinite Leave
to Remain Family & the Indefinite Leave to Remain Employment before moving
onto UK Settlement.

UK Residency by another name for foreigners perhaps ?

In fact it's only the advent of Brexit and the need to guarantee the rights of
EU nationals who have made the UK their home; that 'settled status' was
introduced but again this is not an all encompassing resident card as 'settled
status' is just for EU nationals who's continued stay in Britain was affected
by Brexit.

The other fallout being the Windrush case and the UK government having to
setup a Windrush scheme due to ambiguities over their residence status
and their rights to become British citizens.
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Surely the time has come for Boris to 'circle the wagons' for a bit of herd immunity ?

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(Although I am sure I read on the NHS website that if you are resident overseas, then you have the jab in that country.)
They're simply saying that as a Brit abroad you don't need to return but you will be eligible wherever you are residing.
In general for NHS treatment you have to be "ordinarily resident" but there are exceptions and I would have thought (and it seems to be the case) that covid treatment and vaccination is one of these.

Don't feel bad about taking a UK vaccination - they have a lot of Astra-Zeneca vaccines that they need to get rid of.
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Apart from feeling that it's not really right, and the complication of having to quarantine for 10 days, I would also be concerned about proving here that I had received the vaccination and concerned that it would likely be the AZ vaccine, which I would be more than happy with but which Switzerland might not recognise as it has not been approved here.

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Apart from feeling that it's not really right, and the complication of having to quarantine for 10 days, I would also be concerned about proving here that I had received the vaccination and concerned that it would likely be the AZ vaccine, which I would be more than happy with but which Switzerland might not recognise as it has not been approved here.
Yes but consider this, how on earth will International travel, tourist & business travel ever going to resume
again ?, if countries don't issue an internationally recognised vaccination certificate or passport.
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Apart from feeling that it's not really right, and the complication of having to quarantine for 10 days, I would also be concerned about proving here that I had received the vaccination and concerned that it would likely be the AZ vaccine, which I would be more than happy with but which Switzerland might not recognise as it has not been approved here.
Look at it this way Spain have already specified that everyone in Spain regardless of nationality or residency
status, even homeless will get the vaccine.
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Apart from feeling that it's not really right, and the complication of having to quarantine for 10 days, I would also be concerned about proving here that I had received the vaccination and concerned that it would likely be the AZ vaccine, which I would be more than happy with but which Switzerland might not recognise as it has not been approved here.
Added to the fact that you should have two shots 12 weeks apart.
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It´s pretty expensive all in all, isn´t it? Test ca 200 GBP, quarantine hotel 1750 GBP and then having to stay there 10 days.



If you have the time and money?
You don't have to quarantine in a hotel coming from Switzerland. Plus Northern Ireland isn't putting people in hotels regardless of where they've come from. So even if Switzerland gets added I could stay 10 days at my brothers house in Northern Ireland and then go to my parents in the uk.

I've got the best part of a million air miles from cc churning so happy to use them on this.
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Apart from feeling that it's not really right, and the complication of having to quarantine for 10 days, I would also be concerned about proving here that I had received the vaccination and concerned that it would likely be the AZ vaccine, which I would be more than happy with but which Switzerland might not recognise as it has not been approved here.
I think it almost certainly will recognise it even if it is not used here. Lots of people from all over will have had it and Switzerland will want their money.
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Re: British Expats would you travel to the UK to get the jab earlier than anywhere el

No. Firstly, I have no idea how as I have not lived there for nearly a decade.
Secondly, I have got the advantage of living in a less infected country and whilst I am jealous of my UK based friends for getting the vaccine earlier than me, they are jealous of me for so many things.
Thirdly, some high risk people, e.g. Jo Whiley’s sister, have fallen through the net and I would not want to take their dose.
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They're simply saying that as a Brit abroad you don't need to return but you will be eligible wherever you are residing.
In general for NHS treatment you have to be "ordinarily resident" but there are exceptions and I would have thought (and it seems to be the case) that covid treatment and vaccination is one of these.

Don't feel bad about taking a UK vaccination - they have a lot of Astra-Zeneca vaccines that they need to get rid of.
Exactly! And no, I certainly wouldn't feel bad - I would feel a whole lot better knowing that I am not going to pass the virus on and I could finally, finally see my mum who I have not seen for a very very long time...
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He will have to pay for his travel test & people as young as 33 have appointments in the U.K. Thats the youngest person that I know of, plenty in their 40's done a few weeks go. My 92 year old mother has not had one, but then she can't get to a vaccine centre, the last 2 times she left the house was in an ambulance going to hospital for observations overnight. UK is way ahead of what they are claiming.
My parents at 60 and 58 haven't had it yet. But my mum (60) is expecting the letter imminently some of her friends in the 60-64 group locally have just received it.

Officially the they are doing group 6 (Ill people from 18-64), but unofficially some areas are doing group 7 (60-64).

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Apart from feeling that it's not really right, and the complication of having to quarantine for 10 days, I would also be concerned about proving here that I had received the vaccination and concerned that it would likely be the AZ vaccine, which I would be more than happy with but which Switzerland might not recognise as it has not been approved here.
I'd think they'll have to approve it soon, with further trial results...

"Meanwhile, a research led by Public Health Scotland found on Monday that hospitalisations were reduced by 85 percent and 94 percent of the Pfizer/BioNtech and AstraZeneca jabs respectively in the fourth week after the first dose."

https://euobserver.com/coronavirus/151017
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No. Firstly, I have no idea how as I have not lived there for nearly a decade.
Secondly, I have got the advantage of living in a less infected country and whilst I am jealous of my UK based friends for getting the vaccine earlier than me, they are jealous of me for so many things.
Thirdly, some high risk people, e.g. Jo Whiley’s sister, have fallen through the net and I would not want to take their dose.
Those high-risk people have fallen through the net ( although they have now been caught, which is brilliant) so- you have not and would not have taken their dose. There are plenty of vaccines available, as previously stated. The bigger issues here are with the less developed countries - that is a whole other ethical and moral dilemma.
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I would feel a whole lot better knowing that I am not going to pass the virus on
The jury is still out on that isn't it? Whether the vaccine stops you spreading it.
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Apart from feeling that it's not really right, and the complication of having to quarantine for 10 days, I would also be concerned about proving here that I had received the vaccination and concerned that it would likely be the AZ vaccine, which I would be more than happy with but which Switzerland might not recognise as it has not been approved here.
Given that the uk has ordered 300 odd million doses and by the time I'd be up (32 years old) everyone at any substantial risk will have been done I don't feel too morally dubious about this. I'd like to visit anyway in the summer. I wonder if it could even be walk in by then. This all said, Berset has promised we will all be done by then.

Id also marginally prefer AZ over Pfizer.
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I think it almost certainly will recognise it even if it is not used here. Lots of people from all over will have had it and Switzerland will want their money.
Recognise it probably wasnt the right terminology. My personal concern is that the AZ vaccine could be approved here but perhaps for use on people below a certain age and at age 61 I could be outside of that range. Obviously the UK is using the AZ vaccine in all age groups, and I am certain that is quite correct, but I don't want to risk any potential complications.
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Recognise it probably wasnt the right terminology. My personal concern is that the AZ vaccine could be approved here but perhaps for use on people below a certain age and at age 61 I could be outside of that range. Obviously the UK is using the AZ vaccine in all age groups, and I am certain that is quite correct, but I don't want to risk any potential complications.
I think the bigger risk would be being on some list of "refusals" if you don't get vaccinated here, irrespective of whether you get Pfizer or AZ in the uk.
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They're simply saying that as a Brit abroad you don't need to return but you will be eligible wherever you are residing.
In general for NHS treatment you have to be "ordinarily resident" but there are exceptions and I would have thought (and it seems to be the case) that covid treatment and vaccination is one of these.

Don't feel bad about taking a UK vaccination - they have a lot of Astra-Zeneca vaccines that they need to get rid of.
Why does it "seem to be the case" that Covid treatment is an exception?
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For those like me who have been WFH since March last year with the earliest date for a return
to the office being no sooner than 9th May - why nip over for a short time when WFH
can easily be done from the UK for weeks or months within reason ?
Boss doesn't mind & to be frank we can choose where we do our WFH.
The only issue possibly being the nice discussions about UK tax liabilities you may be having with HMRC if you overstay your welcome by WFH in the UK. IIRC, 30 days working maximum is allowed.

All fine and dandy if you don't get caught, but potentially expensive and bloody annoying if you do.

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