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Your lack of empathy never ceases to amaze me. I look forward to the day a mod finally bans you for trolling.

According to the below article, Switzerland accepted 14,523 refugees in 2020 alone.

https://theconversation.com/where-do...gees-go-166316
That sounds nice. But according to admin.ch, there were only 2938 refugees accepted in Switzerland (page 29) and this from 2011 until end of 2020! (page 28 gives it by year).

That's 2938 within 9 years. Most asylum seekers from Afghanistan are rejected. Because they can't be sent home, they are left to hang out on a N-permit with no perspectives and thanks to Schengen no possibility to try finding a home in an other European country.

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Old 27.08.2021, 09:23
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Re: Afghan Refugees in Switzerland

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Your lack of empathy never ceases to amaze me. I look forward to the day a mod finally bans you for trolling.

According to the below article, Switzerland accepted 14,523 refugees in 2020 alone.

https://theconversation.com/where-do...gees-go-166316
The above post already pointed you out hard facts.

You can keep your empathy for a girls night out.
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Re: Afghan Refugees in Switzerland

The data are quite confusing. The article from the Conversation cites as source the UNHCR, which according to their own data:
https://www.unhcr.org/refugee-statis...ad/?url=K3Cd3W
shows that during 2020 Switzerland recognized 351 asylum seeker from Afghanistan, and offered complementary protection to additionally 1433.

All this while having 14.523 Afghan refugees (as described under UNHCR mandate) but only 844 Afghan asylum applicants.

Maybe one of them is Karzai accountant, who knows.

Yes, data are messy, almost as messy as Afghanistan after 20 years of war on terrorism and democracy export.
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Old 27.08.2021, 09:34
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Re: Afghan Refugees in Switzerland

You know olygirl, it's very noble of you that you want to host refugees in CH or wherever.

But there's something very naive and also an insult to our intelligence when some of us hear this type of a talk.

Maybe people around, taxpayers and the working class in general is a bit sick really sick of hearing how we need to cut down on this/that, fed budget issues, paying exorbitant fines for everything (and filling that empty keg with$$) to then be asked for compassion, altruism and so on...

Who bombed that country or other countries like that one for years?? who is creating a war, in fact... let's just see how are the arms manufacturers who are the middle guys and who in the end sells guns to the bad guys in afganistan, middle east so they fight with their own goverment, between them etc etc. .???

Do I or you have any real benefit from that war or bombing syria,lybya .... No? When our governements (EU, eu countries, USA) bombed countries there were we really "YEAH please DO ,great! once there are refugees let's bring them in" ? NO.

Btw, Assange when he explained what was the most difficult thing in the wikileaks he had to deal with , he said "after reading thousands and thousands documents we saw how governments&elites want war but they know and see how the citizens, the people don't want any and would never support any war.... so they use different techniques of lying,disseminating propaganda, false proofs etc.. to lie and win the public support in the end"

Also, even if we accept the idea of how "yes, we did not want the war and we have no interest in the end there are people and they need shelter" ... How naive--- stupid should we really be to accept the refugees who for some reason are 99% men ??? grown up men ?!

Is someone playing a joke on us or what.. Because this was the case with other refugees in the last 10y .. women,children... obviously dont need to be sheltered..?

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Re: Afghan Refugees in Switzerland

Whatever the reason for providing shelter or food to refugees - it can be done far more efficiently with much less disruption and issues of ethnic violence in regions surrounding their homeland.



Of course this would mean far less work for social workers , police and teachers in CH - so they can be redeployed to genuinely productive work which benefit the citzenry who pay for them. No doubt they are happy to learn new abilities to do so.
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What’s the deal with the forum software? I tried to write ‘fu*king’ without the ‘*’ and all it posted was ‘ing’?!
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Whatever the reason for providing shelter or food to refugees - it can be done far more efficiently with much less disruption and issues of ethnic violence in regions surrounding their homeland.



Of course this would mean far less work for social workers , police and teachers in CH - so they can be redeployed to genuinely productive work which benefit the citzenry who pay for them. No doubt they are happy to learn new abilities to do so.
Yeh, let's let Pakistan, Iran, and the other "stans" deal with it all. We can basically wash our hands of it all. Great idea...
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Re: Afghan Refugees in Switzerland

Oh, Parnell found an old thread on refugees which he has not completely drowned in his right winged shit yet? Time to add some value on EF once again...
Its great that EF is open for all sort of discussions, but I dont see why we need literally hundreds of threads on refugees. I know some users are obsessed with it, but is it really a defining part of your life in Switzerland? I am sure there are a few thousand of Afghans spread over the country, but I cant say I have met any... maybe seen a small hand full in the paquis area of Geneva, thats it.

Its just the same old "I am scared of foreigners and believe everyone with a beard is a rapist". Could the mods just merge all those "discussions" into one giant thread to avoid (you know, like the "brexit" thread we had...)?
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Re: Afghan Refugees in Switzerland

The US created the problem, it's up to them to resolve it, NOT Switzerland!

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The US created the problem, it's up to them to resolve it, NOT Switzerland!

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Don't forget Germany!

https://www.blick.ch/schweiz/mittell...d16783541.html

With that 25'000 CHF, I am quite sure an Afghan family could live comfortably (refugees'standards) for a couple of years. In Wolfsburg/Nürnberg. Where these 25'000 Sfr will fly.

Half-jokes apart, it's really terrible how much money is being moved by the Afghan long-lasting tragedy (all the weapon sold and employed there were paid by ... for nothing if not destruction).

After 20 years, I think it is quite reasonable to say that the G20 countries are governed by intelligent economic actors, having as a framework for their action maximing the profit from their close supporting funding donors.

Yes, the Democrats received less money.
Yes, in the purely rational economic world it means that the Democrats are cheaper to convince.
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Come one, there are nice villas by the lake in Genčve and Lausanne where the Swiss can host peace talks for the confronting parties.

PS. I need to visit the place in Lausanne where the contemporary borders of Turkey were agreed. I'm just curious.
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Come one, there are nice villas by the lake in Genčve and Lausanne where the Swiss can host peace talks for the confronting parties.

PS. I need to visit the place in Lausanne where the contemporary borders of Turkey were agreed. I'm just curious.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palais_de_Rumine
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Old 27.08.2021, 11:02
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Oh, Parnell found an old thread on refugees which he has not completely drowned in his right winged shit yet? Time to add some value on EF once again...
Its great that EF is open for all sort of discussions, but I dont see why we need literally hundreds of threads on refugees. I know some users are obsessed with it, but is really a defining part of your life in Switzerland? I am sure there are a few thousand of Afghans spread over the country, but I cant say I have met any... maybe seen a small hand full in the paquis area of Geneva, thats it.

Its just the same old "I am scared of foreigners and believe everyone with a beard is a rapist". Could the mods just merge all those "discussions" into one giant thread to avoid (you know, like the "brexit" thread we had...)?
Well, maybe post brexit they are all worried they might have to demand asylum and share the contingent with all the non-EU of the rest of the world?
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Old 27.08.2021, 11:15
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Well, maybe post brexit they are all worried they might have to demand asylum and share the contingent with all the non-EU of the rest of the world?
Economic hardship is not a valid reason to be a refugee! What are they all doing in Switzerland anyways? Why dont they just go back to their country and build it up instead? Its not our fault that they have a muppet as prime minister...
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As if to prove the absurdity of Merkel's policies even today the German kommandoes have rescued a family "living in Munich" from Kabul (link in German) and what were they doing in Kabul ? Visiting their grandma of course ! Now considering all the stuff that asylum seekers (and olygirl) swear up and down about the situation back home what does this say about modern Germany?
The kids are German citizens. The mother has an indefinite residency visa. You have no idea whether they were once asylum seekers. Even if they were, they're not now. Political situations change. You don't know when the mother entered Germany - could have been 20 years ago. Or 40. Kabul was deemed pretty safe - the sudden taking of it took the various world governments by surprise. If only they'd remembered to ask parnell...

You may be surprised to learn that once you are settled in a country, you are free to travel where you wish.

TL;DR your post and the point you're attempting to make are like a badly built skyscraper. So many flaws.
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TL DR , ahahah

NotAtThere, you just love it's like a new trend for you doing TL DR to people to who you're replying to which as far as I'm aware you are supposed to READ it all so then your reply can make a sense )

btw, Parnell made 2 comments with like 2 lines (sentences) and you are 3 times that)
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Oh, Parnell found an old thread on refugees which he has not completely drowned in his right winged shit yet? Time to add some value on EF once again...
Look who it is - oh most value adding one how honoured we must be in your presence...

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Its great that EF is open for all sort of discussions, but I dont see why we need literally hundreds of threads on refugees.
Hundreds ??? Or are you just posting from your behind once again?

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I know some users are obsessed with it, but is it really a defining part of your life in Switzerland?
Paying for ANYTHING that brings zero net benefit to this country should be objected to - the cost in 2018 was estimated to be 2.5bn CHF - more than double that in 2015. Feel free to pay for that yourself but kindly leave others to make their own choices.

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