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Look who it is - oh most value adding one how honoured we must be in your presence...


Hundreds ??? Or are you just posting from your behind once again?


Paying for ANYTHING that brings zero net benefit to this country should be objected to - the cost in 2018 was estimated to be 2.5bn CHF - more than double that in 2015. Feel free to pay for that yourself but kindly leave others to make their own choices.



One of these days I'm gonna turn up to one of your events and you can see for yourself the level of "fear" I exhibit - amongst other things I've been a bouncer in pervious incarnations. However some of the children of my friends in Munich have been assaulted by your "refugee" chums - and there is nothing that I can do to protect them if the state refuses to. The only fear that I have is for the children of those I care about and my own - you clearly are very happy to throw them to the dogs.
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Old 27.08.2021, 13:30
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TL DR , ahahah

NotAtThere, you just love it's like a new trend for you doing TL DR to people to who you're replying to which as far as I'm aware you are supposed to READ it all so then your reply can make a sense )

btw, Parnell made 2 comments with like 2 lines (sentences) and you are 3 times that)
My experience is that most people don't read the whole post anyway. The TL;DR is usually (but not always) sarcastic.

TL;DR... oh never mind.
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Old 27.08.2021, 13:42
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As if to prove the absurdity of Merkel's policies even today the German kommandoes have rescued a family "living in Munich" from Kabul (link in German) and what were they doing in Kabul ? Visiting their grandma of course ! Now considering all the stuff that asylum seekers (and olygirl) swear up and down about the situation back home what does this say about modern Germany?
This is something that isn't being reported too much in the media. Why have there been so many Afghans with European passports (UK, German, French etc.) caught in the land that the vast majority have claimed asylum from? These are important questions that should be asked!

And the next question should be how terrorists have been allowed to be repatriated back into Europe

https://twitter.com/FranceNews24/sta...35363724537856

TBF to these European countries, they have been given a hospital pass from President Biden.
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The kids are German citizens. The mother has an indefinite residency visa. You have no idea whether they were once asylum seekers. Even if they were, they're not now. Political situations change. You don't know when the mother entered Germany - could have been 20 years ago. Or 40. Kabul was deemed pretty safe - the sudden taking of it took the various world governments by surprise. If only they'd remembered to ask parnell...
Which is why he makes no claims to that end.
His point is the absurdity of Afghans claiming asylum in western Europe while others go there for holidays. The two simply don't add up, they're mutually exclusive. It's the same with e.g. Eritrean and Ethyopian "refugees" here.
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Oh, Parnell found an old thread on refugees which he has not completely drowned in his right winged shit yet? Time to add some value on EF once again...
Pst, hey ... this thread was started by olygirl, and only a few months ago ... perhaps tell her to stop starting threads on this topic instead?
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The US created the problem, it's up to them to resolve it, NOT Switzerland!

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The problem is that they don't care and they are across the pond. I'm pretty sure they used to accept refugees from Afghanistan in past as there were lots of them taxi driving in NY at some point. Not sure how this changed since 9/11.
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You seem nice.
thanks, therr are many nice people here some, just love to call other people trolls because they express different opinion.

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Old 27.08.2021, 14:44
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Re: Afghan Refugees in Switzerland

If you are non EU or from a developing nation - no chance of entering EU or USA unless

- you can obtain visa via an embassy
- you are employed
- have enough finances to support yourself during tourism or study
- be able to proove that you will not stay behind
- find a local person to sponsor your trip and be liable for you
- obtain health and accident insurance for abroad


Or simply show up with no documents at all say you are a refugee and off you go, no checks needed, just state where do you want to go. You will get more support and finances that most working class people here
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Old 27.08.2021, 15:04
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Or simply show up with no documents at all say you are a refugee and off you go, no checks needed, just state where do you want to go. You will get more support and finances that most working class people here
Unfortunately if you're white they will kick you out straight away.

So the best thing is to somehow fly in, and at least hand yourself over at the border
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Old 27.08.2021, 15:12
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I'd say that it signals there are people in fragile situation around us. I'd dare to add that there are people in fragile situation and they come from many different places.
Precisely, everyone has their story

As it is, I know some Afghanis who have been here more than a decade as refugees - they have a terrific business, involved in local football club and very warm & integrated far better than many expats
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Old 27.08.2021, 16:58
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One of these days I'm gonna turn up to one of your events and you can see for yourself the level of "fear" I exhibit - amongst other things I've been a bouncer in pervious incarnations.

However some of the children of my friends in Munich have been assaulted by your "refugee" chums - and there is nothing that I can do to protect them if the state refuses to. The only fear that I have is for the children of those I care about and my own - you clearly are very happy to throw them to the dogs.
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Unfortunately if you're white they will kick you out straight away.

So the best thing is to somehow fly in, and at least hand yourself over at the border
'They' didn't kick out the many 10s of thousands of refugees that came from the former Yugoslavia did they? The only made sure that they can't buy guns.
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Precisely, everyone has their story

As it is, I know some Afghanis who have been here more than a decade as refugees - they have a terrific business, involved in local football club and very warm & integrated far better than many expats
Oh, totally. Yet the Austrian Chancelor disagrees:"there are still big problems with the integration and we are therefore against an additional inclusion." He warned in tweets that Europe has made a mistake in 2015 and he doesn't want to repeat it.

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Or simply show up with no documents at all say you are a refugee and off you go, no checks needed, just state where do you want to go. You will get more support and finances that most working class people here

Needless hyperbole. Why not post what factually happens, in order to help people to understand the reality? Do you even know what happens yourself, because the above is wrong?



Such people give their ID to the 3rd party they have paid to transport them. That person then gives them a different ID to travel with (they are told to destroy the false ID when they land and are through all the airport or port checks, and able to wander freely). NB "no checks" which you claim does not exist.



That first country is usually a country where they have been able to make contact previously with people from their community, who can guide them a bit on what to do and where to go. They may, or may not, stay in that country.



A case from 5+ years ago:
-Person paid an agent to take them from Afghanistan to Italy
-They had previously made contact with someone from their community in Italy, who met them, and helped them to find their feet
-That person put them in touch with other people from their community in Switzerland, and paid for their train ticket from Italy to Switzerland
-They had also told them what to say (Asylbewerber) if they were asked for ID on the train
-Once they arrived, they were met by 1 of the contacts they'd been introduced to, who then drove them to 1 of the border controls, dropped them off nearby, and told them to say Asylbewerber


Once they are in the custody of the border guards, they are subject to finger-printing, the collection of info (forms in many languages), and interviews (translators attend). NB "no checks" which you claim does not exist.
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Im old - not Joe Biden old but still - old.
Ah! So old enough to have been a bouncer at Toy 'N' Hobby
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Oh, totally. Yet the Austrian Chancelor disagrees:"there are still big problems with the integration and we are therefore against an additional inclusion." He warned in tweets that Europe has made a mistake in 2015 and he doesn't want to repeat it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.eur...llor-kurz-says
Austria has no skin in the game. Not a NATO member, no soldiers in Afghanistan, so not under any pressure to take Afghans.
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One of these days I'm gonna turn up to one of your events and you can see for yourself the level of "fear" I exhibit - amongst other things I've been a bouncer in pervious incarnations. However some of the children of my friends in Munich have been assaulted by your "refugee" chums - and there is nothing that I can do to protect them if the state refuses to. The only fear that I have is for the children of those I care about and my own - you clearly are very happy to throw them to the dogs.
Is this part of the new welcoming forum that I've been hearing so much about. How all these members were such lovely people and were wrongly banned by the evil lefty mods
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Is this part of the new welcoming forum that I've been hearing so much about. How all these members were such lovely people and were wrongly banned by the evil lefty mods
People who care about their kids ? Awful sort.
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People who care about their kids ? Awful sort.
So that's your cover for making veiled threats of physical intimidation towards another forum member? That would get you thrown off any decent forum for being a stalker.
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