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why there is no drain in Swiss toilet/bath room?

I lived in four different apartments since I moved to Switzerland. None of them has a drain in the toilet/bath room. This caused problems sometimes, for example, when you accidentally splashed water out from your shower.
In Asia, a drain is very common in a toilet/bath room. I really cannot think of an advantage of "not" having a drain.
Does anyone know?
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Re: why there is no drain in Swiss toilet/bath room?

I have never lived anywhere with a drain in the bathroom and never encountered any problems so I can’t really see the need for one.
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Re: why there is no drain in Swiss toilet/bath room?

Use a shower curtain. And put the curtain inside inside the bath/shower area...



I would say it's probably a humidity thing - or just simply cultural variation - in Switzerland, the water dries very fast because of the low humidity. In Asia/Australia, many places where I have travelled, if you left water lying on the floor, in a humid area, it would still be there hours later, and mould would grow... very fast.


Our previous flat (1960's built) had carpet in the bathroom! it was waterproof carpet glued to a concrete floor - but carpet!


Amazingly....even with a few major spills from my kids overflowing the bath, including one which basically soaked the entire room and even went into the hallway.... wiping up with some old towels worked perfectly well, it dried off within about 24 hours, and no mould!
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Re: why there is no drain in Swiss toilet/bath room?

Some bathrooms do. It's called a wet room in the U.K. and the shower is quite often 'open plan'.

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Re: why there is no drain in Swiss toilet/bath room?

Is the above photo of a bathroom in Switzerland? Or have you seen such arrangements in Switzerland?
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Re: why there is no drain in Swiss toilet/bath room?

You will mainly find floor drains in a house where there's a lower-ground floor bathroom or there are laundry facilities in the basement, but in a typical apartment building the plumbing logistics of fitting them would be a nightmare.

My husband lived in a flat in Copenhagen for a while and in scandinavian countries the WC will often double as a shower room; although there was a drain after a shower the floor stayed wet for hours, even if you remembered to leave the door open on the hottest of days.
So having visitors involved a very organised timetable and much stropping about whose turn it was to shower last and then dry the floor so that the room could return to its main day-time function as a loo!
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Re: why there is no drain in Swiss toilet/bath room?

Good question. I don't know the answer.

I've only once had a bathroom with a drain, that was in Amsterdam. But it was a tiny bathroom where the toilet and sink were basically in the shower
The drain in the floor replaced the drain we have within the shower or bathtub here.
While I was not happy about having to dry the entire bathroom after each shower, the drain in the floor was practical. I could just rinse the detergent off with the shower head after cleaning.

Having a decent, separated shower plus a drain in the floor would be perfect.
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Re: why there is no drain in Swiss toilet/bath room?

Why?

Just learn to not make a mess!

FFS.

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Re: why there is no drain in Swiss toilet/bath room?

I once had a house with bathrooms with floor drains, and that was not a pleasant experience.

Whenever we were leaving for a couple weeks, water in a trap would dry and a sewage smell were greeting our homecoming. It may be less of a problem in a warm humid climate, but not much of that exists in Switzerland. If you make those drains pluggable (as many sink and tub drains are nowadays), then it may be less of a smell problem, but would be a trap hazard.

Answering your questions: looks like Swiss people never needed those drains in the floor. A bathmat works as well and feels warmer.
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Re: why there is no drain in Swiss toilet/bath room?

I'll admit the floor drains in our Hong Kong house were rather convenient for cleaning.

On the other hand, there was the time I stepped out of the shower to see a snake slithering back down the drain...

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Re: why there is no drain in Swiss toilet/bath room?

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I'll admit the floor drains in our Hong Kong house were rather convenient for cleaning.

On the other hand, there was the time I stepped out of the shower to see a snake slithering back down the drain...


or a rat
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Re: why there is no drain in Swiss toilet/bath room?

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or a rat
Or cokroaches

We had those in Singapore. Only use was for a faulty shower door that let plenty of water out to be caught by the drain.

Never felt the need here. If there are a few drops coming from shower, a simple mat catches them and when mopping one anyway should just use a humid mop. So not really sure what it would help?
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Re: why there is no drain in Swiss toilet/bath room?

Okay, I changed my mind, don't want a drain in the bathroom floor anymore, you folks convinced me.

Although in Amsterdam I never had nasty visitors coming through it.
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Re: why there is no drain in Swiss toilet/bath room?

Asia also has bum-guns. I think there is a connection.
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Re: why there is no drain in Swiss toilet/bath room?

The plumbing term (at least in Australia) is "floor waste"

In Switzerland, most sewerage piping is routed through the walls, to avoid putting any drainage piping in the flooring (requires either a thicker floor or potruding pipes in the ceiling below, as the pipes always need to be angled down)

To reduce the need for floor waste, Swiss baths and sinks are fitted with an overflow hole, which drains into the same pipe as the relevant drainage pipe. However these can get blocked, and I have experienced flooding myself as a result.

To be honest, I do find floor waste a better idea but can see why it is avoided here.
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Re: why there is no drain in Swiss toilet/bath room?

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Is the above photo of a bathroom in Switzerland? Or have you seen such arrangements in Switzerland?
Yes.

But more modern ones tend to have a long, flat drain against one wall rather than a hole in the middle of the floor. The shower may, or may not have a partial screen.

The drains have a built in 'water-lock' to stop the sewage pipe smells entering the bathroom.

This one is from a Swiss website:



It's seen as quite a modern thing here (according to the advertising blurb) so if you haven't been looking for a new bathroom recently, then you may not have noticed.

We had a shower room fitted recently with such an arrangement but with fold away doors. The room is quite small and this way, with a flat floor and the screens folded away to the wall, the shower room appears much bigger and not so cramped. It allows for a much bigger shower too.

It works really well.
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Re: why there is no drain in Swiss toilet/bath room?

The other problem with floor drains is that the underfloor heating tends to dry out the U-bend. Unless it‘s part of a proper wet room you have to occasionally top it up, which people forget and then the room smells.

Also you don‘t really need the drain - even if I completely soak our bathroom floor with a wet mop, the heating and extractor dry it very quickly.

Personally I don‘t like wet rooms / open showers unless the bathroom is huge, having a damp toilet seat and soggy toilet rolls isn‘t work it.
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Re: why there is no drain in Swiss toilet/bath room?

I have a shower as seen above. The floor drain is fantastic but the glass wall wasn't long enough so lots of water splattered onto the rest of the floor, which didn't run into the shower drain. Adding a proper glass door that extended the glass wall solved that problem.
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Re: why there is no drain in Swiss toilet/bath room?

Floor drains are great imo, very practical. I wouldn't like floor drains if snakes or other things can make their way through but have never heard of anything like this before. I guess it can happen in warmer climates. In Scandinavia they love these things btw.
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Yes.

But more modern ones tend to have a long, flat drain against one wall rather than a hole in the middle of the floor. The shower may, or may not have a partial screen.

The drains have a built in 'water-lock' to stop the sewage pipe smells entering the bathroom.

This one is from a Swiss website:



It's seen as quite a modern thing here (according to the advertising blurb) so if you haven't been looking for a new bathroom recently, then you may not have noticed.

We had a shower room fitted recently with such an arrangement but with fold away doors. The room is quite small and this way, with a flat floor and the screens folded away to the wall, the shower room appears much bigger and not so cramped. It allows for a much bigger shower too.

It works really well.
I think they call those Italian showers. They’re very popular now.

It’s not quite the same as having the drain in the middle of the bathroom though.
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