Hi! I'm 23 and I'm considering moving to the french-speaking part of Switzerland, I have a fairly reasonable level in the french language but I don't have work experience yet. My idea would be to go to Switzerland and initially work in low-skilled jobs and then as time goes by I would seek qualifications so that I can reach better jobs. Is that doable? I'm completely aware that it will be very hard, but I'm willing to do that.

Unless you have an EU passport, forget it.

Or are Swiss.

Tom

Yes, I have an EU passport. Forgot to mention that.

Then, yes.

Tom

Pet food packing factories are always looking for staff.

To be honest, there are no low skill jobs, there's only low-paid jobs.

Also, in the local culture it's quite infrequent that someone at 23 years old has no experience. Either you go to the university and finish around 22-23 YO, but you don't aim at a low paid job. Or go for vocational/trade school at 15-16 YO and when you reach 23 you got several years of experience.

If you aim for a low paid job you'd be competing with a local worker with 5+ years of experience. I try not to be be a condescending idiot, but even supermarket cashiers have 2-3 years of formation between school and on-job training. The lower the salary, the harder the competition.

Do you have any examples?

Nope, there are also low skill jobs.

Tom

Ever tried to compete with those workers?

When I was studying and fresh out of bachelor I was curious and worked at so-called low-skill jobs. It was hard to compete with other people with stronger work ethic or 3 children, thus I under performed. Sometimes I quit, sometimes I got fired, but I failed at most of them ,so returned happily to thinking jobs. Some low-paid jobs require true technical skill and even bravery, others require the patience of a saint which I don't have. Patience is damned hard thing to be good at.

Don’t you need a job to move here even as an EU National? I doubt anyone will move a zero skilled person from Brazil to here. Even waiters & hotel employees have apprenticeships & need language skills ...

I was born in Brazil and I'm currently living here but I'm also an Italian national. My idea would be to go to Switzerland and there look for a job, of course I'm not expecting a company to move me from here to there and as I said in the post I have language skills.

Swiss move from one part of Switzerland to another with no language skills (BTDT), and even with no work skills.

When my daughter moved from Ticino to Bern, her language and work skills were useless.

Ironically, the Swiss German that she learnt in Bern and Aargau were NOT useless when she moved to Australia.

Tom

Well, a) since Brazil is on Switzerland's high risk list you'd have to quarantine here somewhere

https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/en/home...ml#-1306781457

which will hamper job hunting and also there's an emphasis here on hiring people who already have a permit to live/work here - which you won't have and won't be able to get straightaway and

b) how much money do you have? I'm not being nosey, but making you aware the Swiss authorities are going to want to know you can support yourself while you're here. The general rule of thumb is CHF100 per day per person so you'd be looking at CHF9,000 for 3 months. You can't register as a job seeker straightaway, EU nationals can be here as tourists for up to 3 months to look for work. After that you can then apply for a job seeker L permit for another 3 months, providing you have sufficient funds to support yourself - so in total you could be looking at around CHF18,000 for 6 months and

c) many people here have language skills so what is going to make you stand out from the rest? Switzerland has 4 official languages: German, French, Italian and Romansch; most people will speak German or French and may speak English as well.

Unless he first goes to Italy and stays with family.

Anyway, he's EU.

Tom

Assuming he has family there and being EU won't stop him from having to quarantine coming direct from Brazil.

Usual unnecessary EF smugness.

Your English is better than many people here. Good luck.

Who cares?

Quarantine has to do with COVID, and NOT moving here as an EU citizen.

And will probably no longer exist when he moves!

Totally unrelated things.

Tom

That’s great, but OP isn’t Swiss ... I thought you needed a job or marriage / student assignment in order to move here ... you can’t just say, I’m from the EU and want to live in Switzerland, correct? Happy to be wrong.

Best wishes OP, but unless you are moving with substantial savings, I would try working in Italy first and then relocating to Switzerland with an accepted job offer.

Ola Brasilaro,

have you been to CH before?

If I were in your shoes I'd emigrate to Portugal (same language) first oder maybe Italy.

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Oh, I almost forgot,

Boa sorte!